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| JagNGeorgia (10/30/2008)
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I think Vic makes a pretty nice argument here. First off, we play a lot of Cover 2, so Nelson could handle that as a CB. Second, his two main weaknesses are his tackling ability and football intelligence. These two weaknesses are magnified much more at the FS position, where you have to tackle well and have a great understanding of the game. Put him to CB and he can rely on his real strengths - his athletic ability and instincts.I'm curious, where did Vic mention considering moving Nelson? Nelson is adequate at tackling, and he has the occasional big hit. If that's one of his weaknesses then he's doing alright. I don't know if "football intelligence" is a weakness. He has great instincts, but he occasionally misses assignments because he's always going for the big play. Nelson's biggest problem is his One-on-One coverage. He wouldn't do well at corner. We don't play much man coverage though. I actually haven't seen the team use it since early in the season, where we were fruitlessly blitzing a lot and thus, leaving our CB`s on an island. We are a Cover 2 team, which means that there should be safety help for the CB`s. Nelson would fare well in this system as a Cover 2 CB. And you can`t attribute all of his mistakes to him simply going for the big play. If that were the case, the coaches would have chewed him out about it on numerous occassions, and he would have gotten the not so subtle hint that he shouldn`t be taking so many chances. His mistakes can be attributed to him missing assignments, which is the result of him not having a grasp of the finer points of playing the FS position. Put him at CB, and he wouldn`t have to think as much - he could simply react. |
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| | | Posted Thursday, October 30, 2008 1:58 PM | |
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| | i like the idea.. i wish we would have thought of that before we gave d. flo all that money though... free safeties are a dime a dozen.. its hard to find a reliable corner in this league and i think reggie could have developed the same way rashean did |
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| | | Posted Thursday, October 30, 2008 2:25 PM | |
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| JagNGeorgia (10/30/2008)
Nelson isn't that good at man-to-man, and that's why he's safety. He's a playmaker. He works better in zone. If you put him at corner then you'll see that he doesn't play his man that well.That is what people said about Mathis as well..............
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| | | Posted Thursday, October 30, 2008 2:48 PM | |
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| if we simply play cover 2 all game we are wasting mathis's ability
Rashean the I-N-T Machine Mathis- best CB in the game
TMD's "predictions" so far for 08 season:
-Minnesota and Philly in the NFC championship game with Minnesota in the Superbowl
-Denver Broncos in the AFC championship game
-Houston a top 5 rushing team in the 09 season
-Houston seeded higher in the playoffs than the jags
- jags finishing 9-7 at best
- Browns finish better than the Jags
-Jags finish last in the AFC South after a bad showing in the preseason
TMD and I have a bet for $100 on the Jags wins
-Denver winning the AFC West LOL
-Bengals over Jags 24-21
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| | | Posted Thursday, October 30, 2008 3:10 PM | |
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| Krayz_Jville_D (10/30/2008)
if we simply play cover 2 all game we are wasting mathis's abilitywhy? ...cause I seem to remember a pro-bowl, 8 interception 2006 for Mathis when we played cover 2 all season. It was his best year.
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| | | Posted Thursday, October 30, 2008 3:50 PM | |
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| oface5446 (10/30/2008)
Krayz_Jville_D (10/30/2008)
if we simply play cover 2 all game we are wasting mathis's ability
why?
...cause I seem to remember a pro-bowl, 8 interception 2006 for Mathis when we played cover 2 all season.
It was his best year.
thats when teams still threw on him a lot... because when you have a CB that can shut down his entire side with no help... you need to use that
Rashean the I-N-T Machine Mathis- best CB in the game
TMD's "predictions" so far for 08 season:
-Minnesota and Philly in the NFC championship game with Minnesota in the Superbowl
-Denver Broncos in the AFC championship game
-Houston a top 5 rushing team in the 09 season
-Houston seeded higher in the playoffs than the jags
- jags finishing 9-7 at best
- Browns finish better than the Jags
-Jags finish last in the AFC South after a bad showing in the preseason
TMD and I have a bet for $100 on the Jags wins
-Denver winning the AFC West LOL
-Bengals over Jags 24-21
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| JagNGeorgia (10/30/2008)
git'er_done (10/30/2008)
I think Vic makes a pretty nice argument here. First off, we play a lot of Cover 2, so Nelson could handle that as a CB. Second, his two main weaknesses are his tackling ability and football intelligence. These two weaknesses are magnified much more at the FS position, where you have to tackle well and have a great understanding of the game. Put him to CB and he can rely on his real strengths - his athletic ability and instincts.I'm curious, where did Vic mention considering moving Nelson? Nelson is adequate at tackling, and he has the occasional big hit. If that's one of his weaknesses then he's doing alright. I don't know if "football intelligence" is a weakness. He has great instincts, but he occasionally misses assignments because he's always going for the big play. Nelson's biggest problem is his One-on-One coverage. He wouldn't do well at corner. Jaguars This Week, Vic wanted Nelson at CB and Mathis switched to SS... Lageman seemed to agree
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| MJD=MVP2007 (10/30/2008)
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Nelson isn't that good at man-to-man, and that's why he's safety. He's a playmaker. He works better in zone. If you put him at corner then you'll see that he doesn't play his man that well.That is what people said about Mathis as well.............. I'll be glad to admit I'm wrong.
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| Bjagfan (10/30/2008)
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git'er_done (10/30/2008)
I think Vic makes a pretty nice argument here. First off, we play a lot of Cover 2, so Nelson could handle that as a CB. Second, his two main weaknesses are his tackling ability and football intelligence. These two weaknesses are magnified much more at the FS position, where you have to tackle well and have a great understanding of the game. Put him to CB and he can rely on his real strengths - his athletic ability and instincts.I'm curious, where did Vic mention considering moving Nelson? Nelson is adequate at tackling, and he has the occasional big hit. If that's one of his weaknesses then he's doing alright. I don't know if "football intelligence" is a weakness. He has great instincts, but he occasionally misses assignments because he's always going for the big play. Nelson's biggest problem is his One-on-One coverage. He wouldn't do well at corner. Jaguars This Week, Vic wanted Nelson at CB and Mathis switched to SS... Lageman seemed to agree Is that on the audio segment on the front page? Did they give reasoning behind it?
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| Why stop with moving 25 Live to CB why not switch to the 3-4 D and then Run the SPREAD.. Heck if it works in the week to week RIGORS of the SEC how can it fail in the Nfl.
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