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Posted Friday, October 31, 2008 2:36 AM


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you are so far wrong its ridiculous. what part about that year dont you get? he was thrown on all the time, meaning more balls were coming his way.. he gave up more catches, but had more int's. he also wasnt shadowing pro bowl WR's every game..

he hasnt given up more than 2 catches in any game this year. if only you knew what you were talking about.

but then again, cromartie was the best CB in the league last year cuz he had the most int's right?




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Posted Friday, October 31, 2008 2:56 AM


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Krayz_Jville_D (10/31/2008)
you are so far wrong its ridiculous. what part about that year dont you get? he was thrown on all the time, meaning more balls were coming his way.. he gave up more catches, but had more int's. he also wasnt shadowing pro bowl WR's every game..

he hasnt given up more than 2 catches in any game this year. if only you knew what you were talking about.

but then again, cromartie was the best CB in the league last year cuz he had the most int's right?

First of all, Cromartie is a a freak athlete with terrible coverage skills.

Now,why do you think you're the only one who has these sentiments about Mathis? Is it just that everyone else is wrong or just out to get you? I said that Mathis does have the ability to scare recievers from throwing to his side do to his great playmaking ability but the lack of passes thrown his way also have to be somewhat attributed to the fat that our other CB's have proven to be nothing more than average and can easily be picked on. Mathis is a pro-bowler, his coverage skills and footwork look close to what they were in 06, but in my opinion ihe still isn't 100 percent healthy and his technique has suffered...if you claim to know as much as you do, you would allow yourself to note this. He ain't perfect.

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Posted Friday, October 31, 2008 3:42 AM




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7-tigers (10/30/2008)
T.J. guaranteed a Bengals win this sunday which I consider worse than anything Chad has said.

Nothing is worse than Chad saying, "I'm gonna kiss the star," referring to the Texas Stadium midfield logo, of course. Everyone still remembers when T.O. ran on it as a 49er and San Francisco suspended him for a week because of that, so why would a Bengals receiver even think about doing it? And there is no way he can love Dallas.

Now I completely agree Matt is better than Chad in the end zone: he never made a show and got fined for it after a single one of his touchdown catches. Nobody says he is a trash talker either because he keeps his mouth shut.



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Posted Friday, October 31, 2008 5:25 AM


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Kareem (10/30/2008)
And btw, braindead isn't even a word...so how could his grammAr be seen as even remotely correct, if it's unclear if the word is even an adjective? But nice try, kiddo.


Are we getting grammar confused with vocabulary again, kiddo? Ironically, we can tell whether the word's an adjective from the grammar of the sentence.
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Posted Friday, October 31, 2008 6:54 AM


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Kareem (10/30/2008)
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kingsbay1 (10/30/2008)
Sorry I'm doing this from a cellphone and I thought using the word would have been inappropriate. Back to the subject. What criteria are you using to rank Matt ahead of Chad? Stats only or are you watching both teams play?


I have watched the Bengals play on multiple occasions this year (due to the fact that I have NFL ticket...hell yea), and Chad Johnson of 06 isn't the guy you see in 08. He isnt explosive, he doesn't block, he can't get any seperation, and he ****es and moans. Statistically he isnt as good as Matt, and using the eyeball test, he's not even close to Matt this year.

You think Matt is more explosive than Chad Johnson!? Come on, you can't have watched him and believe that. Next you are going totell me Matt has better hands.
I believe you haven't really watched him, but watched the highlights, otherwise, you would know he was double-covered in most games.
Chad Johnson double covered???? Dude, he's not even the best receiver on his own team. Get off his balls.

I'm sorry I thought I was talking to someone who knew football, my mistake. Chad is the deep threat WR, TJ is the possession WR. You don't find it odd that they are 0-6 and they haven't scored many points, yet TJ's numbers are up and Chad's numbers are down.

As for who's being double covered, TJ has almost twice as many catches as Chad. So, you are say either TJ is the greatest receiver in the league to have 54(2) receptions while being double covered or the QB is a bonifide to be throwing to the guy who is doubled twice as often as the guy single covered. It's not a direct correlation, but it is ONE of the reasons they are not scoring, and since their defense has always been bad, maybe ONE of the main reasons they are not winning.

Finally, since you appear to be the ONLY one in this thread who thinks Matt Jones is a better receiver than Chad Johnson, maybe you need to check your testicular grip.

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Posted Friday, October 31, 2008 7:15 AM




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No way am I going to say Matt Jones is a better WR that ocoho noshow but I don't know how many Bengals games you've watched this year... just last Sunday he was WIDE open and didn't even look back for the ball as it sailed right past his head... another foot over and the ball would have hit him in the head... he cut off a route (stopped running) over the deep middle where no one was close to him and the ball went about 5 yards past him... on both plays he was talked to by the WR coach when he came to the sidelines...

I get a bunch of titan and Bengals game in the area I live in... Chad is just not playing like he has in years past... it's no secret that he wants out of Cincy and his play this year stinks...




 

 

 

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Posted Friday, October 31, 2008 7:21 AM


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JaxJagsForever (10/30/2008)
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Apparently you missed the part where the receiver fell down and because Rasheen was 3 yards back he happened to be in the right place at the right time. That play would of been a 1st down for them had he not fallen.

Andersons INT never happens if there wasn't a penalty.

You do not know Holmes would have caught the ball if he did not fall. He is not the best WR on the team - Hines Ward is.

The penalty was offsides #93 before Anderson threw the ball. What Groves did had nothing to do with who caught that pass. So what's your point?

 

I do know had Holmes not fallen down maybe he doesn't make the catch, but Mathis definitely does not make the INT.  He wasn't even close to "shadowing" the receiver.

 

If you knew anything about football you would also understand that Anderson knew he had a free play likeley Mathis as well. That allows Mathis to take a chance as well as Anderson because whatever the outcome it really does not matter.

KrazyD I know you have a thing for Mathis it is obvious from your sig but the dude aint playing at a PB level no way. I know he is local and all but I just do not get what you are looking at on the field. The guy got thrown to twice on Sunday and both times he was not only beat but whipped. The long pass was a quick throw you can't blame that on the pressure. He was the third guy on the tackle and still couldn't make it because he is scared to get dirty. I am as big a fan of the Jags as the next and just hate to see someone dance around the field giving up big plays week in and week out. I bet you could pick out a couple of tackles on week he misses.

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Posted Friday, October 31, 2008 8:28 AM


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shag52 (10/31/2008)
No way am I going to say Matt Jones is a better WR that ocoho noshow but I don't know how many Bengals games you've watched this year... just last Sunday he was WIDE open and didn't even look back for the ball as it sailed right past his head... another foot over and the ball would have hit him in the head... he cut off a route (stopped running)over the deepmiddle where no one was close to him and the ball went about 5 yards past him... on both plays he was talked to by the WR coach when he came to the sidelines...

I get a bunch of titan and Bengals game in the area I live in... Chad is just not playing like he has in years past... it's no secret that he wants out of Cincy and his play this year stinks...

Okay, he wants out of Cincy (no surprise there). That doesn't mean all of a sudden he's not a good receiver and better than Matt Jones. I'm not even a big fan of his, but when I read some of the dumb stuff I've seen in this thread, I have to respond. Did you watch the Dallas game? IMO I saw several key drives stall because Palmer would not even look in Chad's side of the field. Again, they are 0-6 and TJ's numbers are up and Chad's are down. That's not a coincidence. We will see Sunday, how close I am to why.
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Posted Friday, October 31, 2008 9:17 AM




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Chad is not happy and doesn't play hard.  Same as Randy Moss in Oakland.

Now, Matt Jones' numbers this year were better than Moss's in Oakland, but you wouldn't say Matt Jones is better than Randy Moss would you?

Basically it's like this:

When Matt Jones has 6 back to back 1000 + receiving and a total of 48 touchdowns in that span, then I'll agree with you that Jones has reached Chads level.

Matt Jones has proved nothing to me yet.  He catches balls on slants, curls, and midslants all day.  I've never seen an explosive play from him.  He needs to step up and start making some deep catches, breaking some tackles, and using his so called 4.3 speed that he had because he def does not look anywhere close to that speed after he catches the ball.

Chad Johnson makes you respect the deep ball, can run any route and catch the ball, has speed to make plays after the catch and has a range of receiving that is rarely found (sportsscience on espn proved this).




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Posted Friday, October 31, 2008 9:18 AM




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To Krazy, Mathis has been average this year.  I'm not going to argue, you can think he has been pro-bowl good, but you know, he won't go to the pro-bowl and there are obvious reasons why.



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