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| Krayz_Jville_D (10/30/2008)
MalabarJag (10/30/2008)
Krayz_Jville_D (10/30/2008)
Funny how lageman agrees that williams is a better safety than CB... seems as tho they are making this move cuz we are going back to dying slow in the cover 2... wonderful.
funny how when florence is in, he still plays on the outside...
... because that's what he's been practicing for the last three months.
Brian Williams has done a solid job at safety, but that doesn't mean he's not the team's second-best CB.
he's the team's 2nd best Cover 2 CB.. ive said that all along.. but he's not the team's 2nd best over all CB
this team is in dissaray if we are keeping 60 mill on the bench... what a joke
How am I wrong... florence is the better man to man corner, even vic said it which ive been saying. but if we are going back to cover 2 all game.. williams is the better option.. but that just means we are going to die slow all game again.. with no pass rush we cant play man coverage cuz our corners have to cover longer.
You still cant name many times at all that florence was beat... i can name PLENTY on williams. you were the joke of a person saying williams wasnt at fault for stokley's TD which still to this day makes me laugh... and also said florence didnt cause that fumble.
you cant ever admit when wrong... the worst player in this secondary besides james is sensabaugh, yet you raved about how godly he was all year
Rashean the I-N-T Machine Mathis- best CB in the game
TMD's "predictions" so far for 08 season:
-Minnesota and Philly in the NFC championship game with Minnesota in the Superbowl
-Denver Broncos in the AFC championship game
-Houston a top 5 rushing team in the 09 season
-Houston seeded higher in the playoffs than the jags
- jags finishing 9-7 at best
- Browns finish better than the Jags
-Jags finish last in the AFC South after a bad showing in the preseason
TMD and I have a bet for $100 on the Jags wins
-Denver winning the AFC West LOL
-Bengals over Jags 24-21
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| | | Posted Thursday, October 30, 2008 4:24 PM | |
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| The Mad Dog (10/30/2008)
SamusAranX (10/30/2008)
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Steelo (10/29/2008)
The Mad Dog (10/29/2008)
LMD (10/29/2008)
Shack should have seen this one coming. What an awful scout of talent.  Wow.....just wow. Anything to keep Shack away from blame. Newsflash: even without any "injury" excuse, Brian Williams is the better CB than Florence. The injury is just a convenient way to camaflouge this move. Its really uncanny....this team is in the crapper, theres a lackof playmakers all over the roster, the GMwas the top guy in charge of orchestrating thesebig money deals to FA's that have done very little and also traded half the draft away for a DE that has done just about nothing, and all you ppl can do is either look the other way or continuously make excuses for the front office. Do you think Weaver is going to take this like you guys are, given he just was saddled with 3 contracts that cumulativeliy approach 100 MIL - and has gotten almost nothing out of the investment?!?! Pretty soon, he will be gone - James Harris will be out of here. Theres probably going to be a mass suicide of bridge jumpers from this message board when these peoples messiah (Harris) is gone. I honest to God have never EVER seen such a mass defense of a mediocre GM or coach in my football life, as I see with the way these people defend James Harris & try to insulate him from any blame. This team has won essentially NOTHING of substance with Harris here, and these people act as if this is a team that has won superbowls, division titles and such. Wow. Just way wow...... This team won NOTHING when Coughlin was here but you will never bash him. Incorrect. When Coughlin was head of personnel, this team won back to back division titles in 1998-99. It also won FOUR playoff games in his first 5 years, and reached the AFCC game twice. From late 1996 to 1999 The Jaguars under Coughlin amassed a record of 41-12, which is around an amazing .800 winning pct. With the personnel headed up by Harris, this team has NO division titles, won only ONE playoff game in 5 seasons, reached NO AFCC games, and the peak of the success was from 2004-2007 with a 40-24 mark, which is around 60% compared to Coughlin's peak of 80% winning pct. Try again. You could easily twist that to say it like this: Coughlin constantly choked in the playoffs. He won the division in 98 and 99 and in both years couldn't take advantage of it! In 1999, we had the best league record and demolished the Dolphins 62-7 in the Div. round! Than he loses to a team for the third time in a season and for the second time at home! The way I see it, Coughlin could never get it done in the playoffs with the Jags, something Dungy, Reid, and other coaches have been justifiably criticized for. He had the biggest opportunity in 1999. He had homefield advantage throughout, a team full of talent, and a roster aching for revenge against the Titans.
Yes, but what you are blaming Coughlin for is a COACHING issue, not a personnel issue. You just stated yourself, the team was "full of talent". The personnel issue is what I was arguing not the coaching part. I agree that coaching was to blame for the Jags underachieving back then (not that TC wasn't a good coach, because he was very good at it....he just was unable, as you correctly point out, to get the team to the next level. Right...my point was that while Coughlin had relative success of his own, the regime then has failed to do what the regime has yet to do now...win it all. And I'm sure that's what we both want. 
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| | | Posted Thursday, October 30, 2008 4:38 PM | |
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| drumrave (10/29/2008)
WVsNumeber1WR (10/29/2008)
Source?? Is he really benched for this up-coming game?
At the browns game D-Flo did not start and Williams took the majority of snaps at cb with Sensabaugh at ss, my source is my eyes
i cant trust your eyes, because they are not mine
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Sammy (10/30/2008)
In case anyone needs a clue.
Pick a number between 1 and 100, Add 52, Now subtract 7, Add 4, Subtract 13, Subtract the number you started with, Divide by 2, Add 7, Multiply by 4 then subtract 9 ... Viola there's your clue.
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| | | Posted Thursday, October 30, 2008 5:20 PM | |
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| Krayz_Jville_D (10/30/2008)
You still cant name many times at all that florence was beat... i can name PLENTY on williams. you were the joke of a person saying williams wasnt at fault for stokley's TD which still to this day makes me laugh... and also said florence didnt cause that fumble.
you cant ever admit when wrong... the worst player in this secondary besides james is sensabaugh, yet you raved about how godly he was all year
How many is plenty you can name for Williams?
I'd like you to name 5 instances that were solely Brian Williams fault.
Also, Drayton Florence didn't cause a fumble on Marshall. He flat out dropped the ball. Watch the video, it's very clear to see.
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| | | Posted Thursday, October 30, 2008 5:39 PM | |
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| Alfie (10/30/2008)
Krayz_Jville_D (10/30/2008)
You still cant name many times at all that florence was beat... i can name PLENTY on williams. you were the joke of a person saying williams wasnt at fault for stokley's TD which still to this day makes me laugh... and also said florence didnt cause that fumble.
you cant ever admit when wrong... the worst player in this secondary besides james is sensabaugh, yet you raved about how godly he was all year
How many is plenty you can name for Williams?
I'd like you to name 5 instances that were solely Brian Williams fault.
Also, Drayton Florence didn't cause a fumble on Marshall. He flat out dropped the ball. Watch the video, it's very clear to see.
umm yea he did force the fumble alfie... it wasn't really a heraculean effort but he did cause it.
also you raved about Sensy in the offseason at SS and keeping Bwill at CB so is this why you're defending him ATM. so you can see you're dream formation come to pass? I like Bwill better at SS since he seems like a better fit there.
also I think Florence should start at RCB and then move inside to NB when we play Nickel since he seems to be better there than Williams is and he did that in San Diego
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| | | Posted Thursday, October 30, 2008 5:44 PM | |
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| Firesky (10/30/2008)
umm yea he did force the fumble alfie... it wasn't really a heraculean effort but he did cause it.
What did he do to cause the fumble? He was falling to the ground when Marshall dropped the ball.
also you raved about Sensy in the offseason at SS and keeping Bwill at CB so is this why you're defending him ATM. so you can see you're dream formation come to pass? I like Bwill better at SS since he seems like a better fit there.
Huh? I talked about bringing Drayton Florence in before he was even signed to play nickel and shore up the secondary. It has nothing to do with being right or wanting to be right. It just so happens what I felt was the best formation for the secondary came to fruition. Brian Williams isn't anything special at SS, else there would be a huge difference when he's not playing it and Sensabaugh is, which there hasn't been.
also I think Florence should start at RCB and then move inside to NB when we play Nickel since he seems to be better there than Williams is and he did that in San Diego
The problem is playing man didn't work so they're going back to Cover 2, which they should have been doing all year. Williams is much better than Florence at Cover 2.
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| Alfie (10/30/2008)
Krayz_Jville_D (10/30/2008)
You still cant name many times at all that florence was beat... i can name PLENTY on williams. you were the joke of a person saying williams wasnt at fault for stokley's TD which still to this day makes me laugh... and also said florence didnt cause that fumble.
you cant ever admit when wrong... the worst player in this secondary besides james is sensabaugh, yet you raved about how godly he was all year
How many is plenty you can name for Williams?
I'd like you to name 5 instances that were solely Brian Williams fault.
Also, Drayton Florence didn't cause a fumble on Marshall. He flat out dropped the ball. Watch the video, it's very clear to see.
are you blind? he clearly , whether it was hard or not, but he most definately hit the ball in his hands, just enough to knock it lose... you really are a see what you want to see type person... would you like to tell me again that it wasnt williams fault on the stokley TD? ive asked you to name instances of florence being beat and you still havent done that...
you name me 5 times florence has been beat and ill give you 5 times williams has been beat.
the only thing we agree on is that williams is a better cover 2 CB. but i dont want to see this team die slow.. its ridiculous... teams will run down our throat, and pass slowly up the field... just like they did all of last year. florence can handle guys 1 on 1 better than williams which would allow us to bring more pressure. we havent blitzed in like 3 weeks.
it's going to be great watching us rush 4 on the lowly bengals and not even sack them... what a disgrace...
it doesnt get much more pathetic than having 60 mill in 2 players sitting on the bench
Rashean the I-N-T Machine Mathis- best CB in the game
TMD's "predictions" so far for 08 season:
-Minnesota and Philly in the NFC championship game with Minnesota in the Superbowl
-Denver Broncos in the AFC championship game
-Houston a top 5 rushing team in the 09 season
-Houston seeded higher in the playoffs than the jags
- jags finishing 9-7 at best
- Browns finish better than the Jags
-Jags finish last in the AFC South after a bad showing in the preseason
TMD and I have a bet for $100 on the Jags wins
-Denver winning the AFC West LOL
-Bengals over Jags 24-21
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| The Mad Dog (10/30/2008)
Steelo (10/29/2008)
The Mad Dog (10/29/2008)
LMD (10/29/2008)
Shack should have seen this one coming. What an awful scout of talent.
Wow.....just wow.
Anything to keep Shack away from blame.
Newsflash: even without any "injury" excuse, Brian Williams is the better CB than Florence. The injury is just a convenient way to camaflouge this move.
Its really uncanny....this team is in the crapper, theres a lackof playmakers all over the roster, the GMwas the top guy in charge of orchestrating thesebig money deals to FA's that have done very little and also traded half the draft away for a DE that has done just about nothing, and all you ppl can do is either look the other way or continuously make excuses for the front office.
Do you think Weaver is going to take this like you guys are, given he just was saddled with 3 contracts that cumulativeliy approach 100 MIL - and has gotten almost nothing out of the investment?!?!
Pretty soon, he will be gone - James Harris will be out of here. Theres probably going to be a mass suicide of bridge jumpers from this message board when these peoples messiah (Harris) is gone.
I honest to God have never EVER seen such a mass defense of a mediocre GM or coach in my football life, as I see with the way these people defend James Harris & try to insulate him from any blame.
This team has won essentially NOTHING of substance with Harris here, and these people act as if this is a team that has won superbowls, division titles and such.
Wow. Just way wow......
This team won NOTHING when Coughlin was here but you will never bash him.
Incorrect.
When Coughlin was head of personnel, this team won back to back division titles in 1998-99.
It also won FOUR playoff games in his first 5 years, and reached the AFCC game twice.
From late 1996 to 1999 The Jaguars under Coughlin amassed a record of 41-12, which is around an amazing .800 winning pct.
With the personnel headed up by Harris, this team has NO division titles, won only ONE playoff game in 5 seasons, reached NO AFCC games, and the peak of the success was from 2004-2007 with a 40-24 mark, which is around 60% compared to Coughlin's peak of 80% winning pct.
Try again.
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Shack(2003-...) Super Bowls=0
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