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| ^Wow, really? What injury did he have again?
I'm in Cincy this week!! Jaguars time!!
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| | | Posted Thursday, October 30, 2008 1:33 PM | |
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| | Torn acl. I think thats it...
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| | | Posted Thursday, October 30, 2008 2:00 PM | |
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| MalabarJag (10/30/2008)
WVsNumeber1WR (10/29/2008)
So Florence will just play in our nickel packages?
Who here feels that Brian Williams is better than Florence?
Raises hand.
It was not a mistake to sign Florence as a nickel corner. It was a mistake to move him to the outside instead of BWill. That mistake has now been rectified. Give Alfiesome credit for calling this one.
No, no. I just hate Brian Williams and have a man-crush on Sensabaugh, remember?
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| | | Posted Thursday, October 30, 2008 2:57 PM | |
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| Alfie (10/30/2008)
MalabarJag (10/30/2008)
WVsNumeber1WR (10/29/2008)
So Florence will just play in our nickel packages?
Who here feels that Brian Williams is better than Florence?
Raises hand.
It was not a mistake to sign Florence as a nickel corner. It was a mistake to move him to the outside instead of BWill. That mistake has now been rectified. Give Alfiesome credit for calling this one.
No, no. I just hate Brian Williams and have a man-crush on Sensabaugh, remember?
Funny how lageman agrees that williams is a better safety than CB... seems as tho they are making this move cuz we are going back to dying slow in the cover 2... wonderful.
funny how when florence is in, he still plays on the outside...
Rashean the I-N-T Machine Mathis- best CB in the game
TMD's "predictions" so far for 08 season:
-Minnesota and Philly in the NFC championship game with Minnesota in the Superbowl
-Denver Broncos in the AFC championship game
-Houston a top 5 rushing team in the 09 season
-Houston seeded higher in the playoffs than the jags
- jags finishing 9-7 at best
- Browns finish better than the Jags
-Jags finish last in the AFC South after a bad showing in the preseason
TMD and I have a bet for $100 on the Jags wins
-Denver winning the AFC West LOL
-Bengals over Jags 24-21
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| | | Posted Thursday, October 30, 2008 3:07 PM | |
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| Krayz_Jville_D (10/30/2008)
Funny how lageman agrees that williams is a better safety than CB... seems as tho they are making this move cuz we are going back to dying slow in the cover 2... wonderful.
funny how when florence is in, he still plays on the outside...... because that's what he's been practicing for the last three months. Brian Williams has done a solid job at safety, but that doesn't mean he's not the team's second-best CB.
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| | | Posted Thursday, October 30, 2008 3:51 PM | |
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| MalabarJag (10/30/2008)
Krayz_Jville_D (10/30/2008)
Funny how lageman agrees that williams is a better safety than CB... seems as tho they are making this move cuz we are going back to dying slow in the cover 2... wonderful.
funny how when florence is in, he still plays on the outside...
... because that's what he's been practicing for the last three months.
Brian Williams has done a solid job at safety, but that doesn't mean he's not the team's second-best CB.
he's the team's 2nd best Cover 2 CB.. ive said that all along.. but he's not the team's 2nd best over all CB
this team is in dissaray if we are keeping 60 mill on the bench... what a joke
Rashean the I-N-T Machine Mathis- best CB in the game
TMD's "predictions" so far for 08 season:
-Minnesota and Philly in the NFC championship game with Minnesota in the Superbowl
-Denver Broncos in the AFC championship game
-Houston a top 5 rushing team in the 09 season
-Houston seeded higher in the playoffs than the jags
- jags finishing 9-7 at best
- Browns finish better than the Jags
-Jags finish last in the AFC South after a bad showing in the preseason
TMD and I have a bet for $100 on the Jags wins
-Denver winning the AFC West LOL
-Bengals over Jags 24-21
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| | | Posted Thursday, October 30, 2008 3:58 PM | |
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| Krayz_Jville_D (10/30/2008)
Alfie (10/30/2008)
MalabarJag (10/30/2008)
WVsNumeber1WR (10/29/2008)
So Florence will just play in our nickel packages?
Who here feels that Brian Williams is better than Florence?
Raises hand.
It was not a mistake to sign Florence as a nickel corner. It was a mistake to move him to the outside instead of BWill. That mistake has now been rectified. Give Alfiesome credit for calling this one.
No, no. I just hate Brian Williams and have a man-crush on Sensabaugh, remember?
Funny how lageman agrees that williams is a better safety than CB... seems as tho they are making this move cuz we are going back to dying slow in the cover 2... wonderful.
funny how when florence is in, he still plays on the outside...
Jesus, I thought it was hard for me to admit I was wrong.
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| | | Posted Thursday, October 30, 2008 4:07 PM | |
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| Steelo (10/29/2008)
The Mad Dog (10/29/2008)
LMD (10/29/2008)
Shack should have seen this one coming. What an awful scout of talent.  Wow.....just wow. Anything to keep Shack away from blame. Newsflash: even without any "injury" excuse, Brian Williams is the better CB than Florence. The injury is just a convenient way to camaflouge this move. Its really uncanny....this team is in the crapper, theres a lackof playmakers all over the roster, the GMwas the top guy in charge of orchestrating thesebig money deals to FA's that have done very little and also traded half the draft away for a DE that has done just about nothing, and all you ppl can do is either look the other way or continuously make excuses for the front office. Do you think Weaver is going to take this like you guys are, given he just was saddled with 3 contracts that cumulativeliy approach 100 MIL - and has gotten almost nothing out of the investment?!?! Pretty soon, he will be gone - James Harris will be out of here. Theres probably going to be a mass suicide of bridge jumpers from this message board when these peoples messiah (Harris) is gone. I honest to God have never EVER seen such a mass defense of a mediocre GM or coach in my football life, as I see with the way these people defend James Harris & try to insulate him from any blame. This team has won essentially NOTHING of substance with Harris here, and these people act as if this is a team that has won superbowls, division titles and such. Wow. Just way wow...... This team won NOTHING when Coughlin was here but you will never bash him.
Incorrect.
When Coughlin was head of personnel, this team won back to back division titles in 1998-99.
It also won FOUR playoff games in his first 5 years, and reached the AFCC game twice.
From late 1996 to 1999 The Jaguars under Coughlin amassed a record of 41-12, which is around an amazing .800 winning pct.
With the personnel headed up by Harris, this team has NO division titles, won only ONE playoff game in 5 seasons, reached NO AFCC games, and the peak of the success was from 2004-2007 with a 40-24 mark, which is around 60% compared to Coughlin's peak of 80% winning pct.
Try again.
Congratulations to the 2008 WORLD Champions, your Philadelphia Phillies!
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| | | Posted Thursday, October 30, 2008 4:13 PM | |
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| The Mad Dog (10/30/2008)
Steelo (10/29/2008)
The Mad Dog (10/29/2008)
LMD (10/29/2008)
Shack should have seen this one coming. What an awful scout of talent. Wow.....just wow. Anything to keep Shack away from blame. Newsflash: even without any "injury" excuse, Brian Williams is the better CB than Florence. The injury is just a convenient way to camaflouge this move. Its really uncanny....this team is in the crapper, theres a lackof playmakers all over the roster, the GMwas the top guy in charge of orchestrating thesebig money deals to FA's that have done very little and also traded half the draft away for a DE that has done just about nothing, and all you ppl can do is either look the other way or continuously make excuses for the front office. Do you think Weaver is going to take this like you guys are, given he just was saddled with 3 contracts that cumulativeliy approach 100 MIL - and has gotten almost nothing out of the investment?!?! Pretty soon, he will be gone - James Harris will be out of here. Theres probably going to be a mass suicide of bridge jumpers from this message board when these peoples messiah (Harris) is gone. I honest to God have never EVER seen such a mass defense of a mediocre GM or coach in my football life, as I see with the way these people defend James Harris & try to insulate him from any blame. This team has won essentially NOTHING of substance with Harris here, and these people act as if this is a team that has won superbowls, division titles and such. Wow. Just way wow...... This team won NOTHING when Coughlin was here but you will never bash him. Incorrect. When Coughlin was head of personnel, this team won back to back division titles in 1998-99. It also won FOUR playoff games in his first 5 years, and reached the AFCC game twice. From late 1996 to 1999 The Jaguars under Coughlin amassed a record of 41-12, which is around an amazing .800 winning pct. With the personnel headed up by Harris, this team has NO division titles, won only ONE playoff game in 5 seasons, reached NO AFCC games, and the peak of the success was from 2004-2007 with a 40-24 mark, which is around 60% compared to Coughlin's peak of 80% winning pct. Try again. You could easily twist that to say it like this: Coughlin constantly choked in the playoffs. He won the division in 98 and 99 and in both years couldn't take advantage of it! In 1999, we had the best league record and demolished the Dolphins 62-7 in the Div. round! Than he loses to a team for the third time in a season and for the second time at home! The way I see it, Coughlin could never get it done in the playoffs with the Jags, something Dungy, Reid, and other coaches have been justifiably criticized for. He had the biggest opportunity in 1999. He had homefield advantage throughout, a team full of talent, and a roster aching for revenge against the Titans. Coughlin was good, but his record can be seen either way. Oh, and he monumentally screwed up our salary cap too.
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| | | Posted Thursday, October 30, 2008 4:21 PM | |
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| SamusAranX (10/30/2008)
The Mad Dog (10/30/2008)
Steelo (10/29/2008)
The Mad Dog (10/29/2008)
LMD (10/29/2008)
Shack should have seen this one coming. What an awful scout of talent. Wow.....just wow. Anything to keep Shack away from blame. Newsflash: even without any "injury" excuse, Brian Williams is the better CB than Florence. The injury is just a convenient way to camaflouge this move. Its really uncanny....this team is in the crapper, theres a lackof playmakers all over the roster, the GMwas the top guy in charge of orchestrating thesebig money deals to FA's that have done very little and also traded half the draft away for a DE that has done just about nothing, and all you ppl can do is either look the other way or continuously make excuses for the front office. Do you think Weaver is going to take this like you guys are, given he just was saddled with 3 contracts that cumulativeliy approach 100 MIL - and has gotten almost nothing out of the investment?!?! Pretty soon, he will be gone - James Harris will be out of here. Theres probably going to be a mass suicide of bridge jumpers from this message board when these peoples messiah (Harris) is gone. I honest to God have never EVER seen such a mass defense of a mediocre GM or coach in my football life, as I see with the way these people defend James Harris & try to insulate him from any blame. This team has won essentially NOTHING of substance with Harris here, and these people act as if this is a team that has won superbowls, division titles and such. Wow. Just way wow...... This team won NOTHING when Coughlin was here but you will never bash him. Incorrect. When Coughlin was head of personnel, this team won back to back division titles in 1998-99. It also won FOUR playoff games in his first 5 years, and reached the AFCC game twice. From late 1996 to 1999 The Jaguars under Coughlin amassed a record of 41-12, which is around an amazing .800 winning pct. With the personnel headed up by Harris, this team has NO division titles, won only ONE playoff game in 5 seasons, reached NO AFCC games, and the peak of the success was from 2004-2007 with a 40-24 mark, which is around 60% compared to Coughlin's peak of 80% winning pct. Try again. You could easily twist that to say it like this: Coughlin constantly choked in the playoffs. He won the division in 98 and 99 and in both years couldn't take advantage of it! In 1999, we had the best league record and demolished the Dolphins 62-7 in the Div. round! Than he loses to a team for the third time in a season and for the second time at home! The way I see it, Coughlin could never get it done in the playoffs with the Jags, something Dungy, Reid, and other coaches have been justifiably criticized for. He had the biggest opportunity in 1999. He had homefield advantage throughout, a team full of talent, and a roster aching for revenge against the Titans.
Yes, but what you are blaming Coughlin for is a COACHING issue, not a personnel issue. You just stated yourself, the team was "full of talent".
The personnel issue is what I was arguing not the coaching part. I agree that coaching was to blame for the Jags underachieving back then (not that TC wasn't a good coach, because he was very good at it....he just was unable, as you correctly point out, to get the team to the next level.
Congratulations to the 2008 WORLD Champions, your Philadelphia Phillies!
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