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| | (Hurricane- quote not working right-) Consider this; Meester and Naeole had been practicing with the 1's the last two weeks. Meaning the last time Tutan Reyes practiced with the 1's, Norman was the Center. Before the game Naeole goes down. Now Reyes is back in w/o the benefit of working the last two weeks w Meester. And so what are you saying, MOJO isn't very good? Basically this year so far can be summed up with one phrase: If it ain't one thing, it's another...
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| | | Posted Wednesday, October 29, 2008 10:30 AM | |
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| | Jacksonville was a team which was suppose to win with defense and a strong running game. We tried to strengthen the passing game and pass rush with acquisitions and draft picks. When the Offensive line goes out you bring in substitutes which are maybe 85% of the quality. When the substitutes go out you bring in 3rd stringers or street guys who are 60% of the substitutes, so essentially you are relying upon 50% quality to support your running game. That doesn't cut it in this league. The defense is weakened by injuries and rookies. An injury is commonplace but I believe some of the talent we have has been compromised from injuries in the past. Mike P, Hayward, Big Hen are not as dominating due to previous injuries and their game has fallen. Bring in a couple of rookies to get some pass rush and they are not getting it done at this level. Regards..............the Chiefjag
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| | | Posted Wednesday, October 29, 2008 10:42 AM | |
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| the Chiefjag (10/29/2008)
Jacksonville was a team which was suppose to win with defense and a strong running game. We tried to strengthen the passing game and pass rush with acquisitions and draft picks. When the Offensive line goes out you bring in substitutes which are maybe 85% of the quality. When the substitutes go out you bring in 3rd stringers or street guys who are 60% of the substitutes, so essentially you are relying upon 50% quality to support your running game. That doesn't cut it in this league. The defense is weakened by injuries and rookies. An injury is commonplace but I believe some of the talent we have has been compromised from injuries in the past. Mike P, Hayward, Big Hen are not as dominating due to previous injuries and their game has fallen. Bring in a couple of rookies to get some pass rush and they are not getting it done at this level. Regards..............the Chiefjag You are right Chief... losing the players the Jags did on the OL really crippled the Jags running game... last year both Fred and MOJO was getting yards even when the other teams defense was loading the box with 8-9 men... the reason they were getting those yards came from the OL not being injuried to the extent the Jags are right now... even getting Meester back last Sunday didn't have the effects on the running game... I didn't think Brad would make much of an impact his first game back... it will take him a couple of games to get back to where he was at pre-injury... both on offense and defense... it all starts up front...
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| I want to try and re-focus the discussion a bit here.
The question is not 'how bad is Jacksonville's injury situation', but rather, which hypothetical injury situation has the most negative impact on a team?
Yes, Jacksonville has found out that it's Third string Offensive Linemen can not play to the level of it's starters, I think that we can all agree on that. But what I am trying to ascertain is, is our injury situation as, or even more, detrimental than the one that New England has suffered, or Indianapolis would have if Manning went down?
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| | | Posted Wednesday, October 29, 2008 10:59 AM | |
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| Chooch (10/29/2008)
I want to try and re-focus the discussion a bit here.
The question is not 'how bad is Jacksonville's injury situation', but rather, which hypothetical injury situation has the most negative impact on a team?
Yes, Jacksonville has found out that it's Third string Offensive Linemen can not play to the level of it's starters, I think that we can all agree on that. But what I am trying to ascertain is, is our injury situation as, or even more, detrimental than the one that New England has suffered, or Indianapolis would have if Manning went down?Yes I think it does impact the Jags the most... although with the Pats losing Brady... they still have a winning record because of the play-makers the Pats have on offense... you see the effect what losing OL has meant to the Colts... Manning is not the same Manning if he doesn't have time to throw the ball... but the Jags are different than both the Pats, Colts or other teams (the titans and Chargers depend on the run)... they depend on the run more than either one of those teams do... it all starts with the run for the Jags... that sets up the whole game plan... the Jags are not built to win games through the air as much as they are built to win the games running the ball and controling the clock...
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| Chooch (10/29/2008)
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Every year we talk injuries. How it's kept us down. Jeez louise we sound like welfare cases making excuses why we are not good! The man kept us down! The injuries kept us down!
Maybe we have mediocre players, drafted by a mediocre Front office and a head coach that was a great linebacker but not so great a talent scout and coach???And in this league mediocre is miles away from the top organizations.
Could thatbe it???????????? nah, you are right, it's the injuries. Just cut and paste this same threadnext year.Why don't you take your knee jerk, overtly emotional, I-didn't-even-bother-to-read-the-whole-thing reaction and keep it to yourself? I, nor any of the other posters in this thread, have not made the first excuse or complaint about the injury situation. I even brought in Pittsburgh and their M*A*S*H unit as an example of a team whose leader was quoted as saying that they would never complain about injuries, but apparently you have a problem picking up on subtlety and allusion. The reason that Jacksonville has lost 4 games is because the players on the field are not playing well enough to get the job done, plain and simple. Now whether that is due to the fact that they simply don't have the talent to do what needs to be done, they haven't been properly prepared to do what needs to be done, or they simply aren't willing to do what needs to be done, is not and will not be discussed in this thread. The intent of this topic that you so obviously blew right past into yet another of your patented, agenda-filled rants was which injuries have the greatest impact on what type of team? If you have an opinion on that, please share it, otherwise, go to one of the multiple, infinitely thought-provoking "Shack and Jack must go" threads and hammer out something akin to what my retarded cat could produce. I am deeply sorry your cat is retarded. Jack and Shack still must go, injuries are not the main issue here. Keep working with the cat, teach it everything you know. You have an hour.
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| | | Posted Wednesday, October 29, 2008 8:01 PM | |
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| Chooch (10/29/2008)
I want to try and re-focus the discussion a bit here.
The question is not 'how bad is Jacksonville's injury situation', but rather, which hypothetical injury situation has the most negative impact on a team?
Yes, Jacksonville has found out that it's Third string Offensive Linemen can not play to the level of it's starters, I think that we can all agree on that. But what I am trying to ascertain is, is our injury situation as, or even more, detrimental than the one that New England has suffered, or Indianapolis would have if Manning went down?See Coochie, you don't get to "refocus" anything. Threads go where they go, it's a free board, you don't control your own threads. You don't get to tell people what to talk about, and how to limit their discussions, and your attempts at keeping people on track to suit your ego doesn't work. Now get talking to that cat and love him!
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| | | Posted Wednesday, October 29, 2008 8:03 PM | |
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| Breeze (10/29/2008)
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I want to try and re-focus the discussion a bit here.
The question is not 'how bad is Jacksonville's injury situation', but rather, which hypothetical injury situation has the most negative impact on a team?
Yes, Jacksonville has found out that it's Third string Offensive Linemen can not play to the level of it's starters, I think that we can all agree on that. But what I am trying to ascertain is, is our injury situation as, or even more, detrimental than the one that New England has suffered, or Indianapolis would have if Manning went down?See Coochie, you don't get to "refocus" anything. Threads go where they go, it's a free board, you don't control your own threads. You don't get to tell people what to talk about, and how to limit their discussions, and your attempts at keeping people on track to suit your ego doesn't work. Now get talking to that cat and love him! Yeah, yeah!!!!!!!! And I'm a cop!! I do's what I wants. Way to attack a respectible member of this board who never attacked you. I'm thinking your biggest fear is intelligence.
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| Chooch (10/29/2008)
I want to try and re-focus the discussion a bit here.
The question is not 'how bad is Jacksonville's injury situation', but rather, which hypothetical injury situation has the most negative impact on a team?
Yes, Jacksonville has found out that it's Third string Offensive Linemen can not play to the level of it's starters, I think that we can all agree on that. But what I am trying to ascertain is, is our injury situation as, or even more, detrimental than the one that New England has suffered, or Indianapolis would have if Manning went down?My point is that having your backup QB play at 85% of the starter is not as detrimental as your OL playing at 50% quality. For instance, the backup QB can still hand off as well as the starter and the OC can call plays the backup QB can effectively execute. Whereas the line still must move the opposition out of the way on every play. Regards.............the Chiefjag
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| Its Meier Time (10/29/2008)
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I want to try and re-focus the discussion a bit here.
The question is not 'how bad is Jacksonville's injury situation', but rather, which hypothetical injury situation has the most negative impact on a team?
Yes, Jacksonville has found out that it's Third string Offensive Linemen can not play to the level of it's starters, I think that we can all agree on that. But what I am trying to ascertain is, is our injury situation as, or even more, detrimental than the one that New England has suffered, or Indianapolis would have if Manning went down?See Coochie, you don't get to "refocus" anything. Threads go where they go, it's a free board, you don't control your own threads. You don't get to tell people what to talk about, and how to limit their discussions, and your attempts at keeping people on track to suit your ego doesn't work. Now get talking to that cat and love him! Yeah, yeah!!!!!!!! And I'm a cop!! I do's what I wants. Way to attack a respectible member of this board who never attacked you. I'm thinking your biggest fear is intelligence. Uh Meier i know you love stalking me but at least get the facts straight. Yes, this "respectible member" did attack me. Read up a few posts. You can do it.
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