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| |  Posted Sunday, October 26, 2008 8:37 AM | |
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| I wish we didn't build a 73,000 cap stadium. We're not that populated. They're expecting for 1/4 of the city to go to the games. We don't have 8 million people like Miami, we only have 1,000,000 and they're a bunch of non football fans, people can't afford to go, people that would rather watch it on TV and etc.
Hopefully this picks up soon with sales. I just feel they should have stuck in the 60,000 range. |
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| | | Posted Sunday, October 26, 2008 8:38 AM | |
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| leopold332002 (10/26/2008)
Wayne Weaver is not going to move this team because if that's was the case, he would've sold by now just like former Miami Dolphin owner Wayne Hyzengia doing this year because once Obama is elected, the taxes for the rich people is going to increase dramatically. He would want to maKe a huge profit on this team and plus, before the season began it was less than 1,000 season tickets remaining tickets for the Jacksonville Jaguar team to have a full stadium. Plus, if he was selling the team a reporter would've discover it by now and would report the story to the public.
Have you ever heard of the BAL Colts? Nobody knew what was going on haha. They moved in the middle of the night. |
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| | | Posted Sunday, October 26, 2008 10:04 AM | |
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| With all this talk about LA, does the fact that LA has lost not one but TWO NFL teams to other cities due to lack of support not count for ANYTHING? Who in their right mind would invest half a Billion dollars or more on a business that has failed TWICE? I really think the NFL is a bit looney for wanting a team in that market. (Yes, looney rhymes with rooney).
 I don't even know where we are; They tell me we're circling a star; Well I'll take their word, I don't know; But I'm dizzy so it may be so. - Jimmy Buffett |
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| | | Posted Sunday, October 26, 2008 10:14 AM | |
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| leopold332002 (10/26/2008)
Wayne Weaver is not going to move this team because if that's was the case, he would've sold by now just like former Miami Dolphin owner Wayne Hyzengia doing this year because once Obama is elected, the taxes for the rich people is going to increase dramatically. He would want to maKe a huge profit on this team and plus, before the season began it was less than 1,000 season tickets remaining tickets for the Jacksonville Jaguar team to have a full stadium. Plus, if he was selling the team a reporter would've discover it by now and would report the story to the public.
They already did in the offseason, It was quickly shot down as Wayne was looking for "investors". |
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| | | Posted Sunday, October 26, 2008 12:22 PM | |
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| HURRICANE!!! (10/25/2008)
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I hope I am dead wrong on this.
I have a feeling Weaver is purchasing the tickets. I looks much better to an investor to see a team with no blackouts as opposed to one that has them.
You are dead wrong on that. To the contrary, having blackouts would only help Weaver's case to sell the team to an outside investor and move the team to LA. Right now, it becomes harder to justify a move if they are selling tix.
Potential buyers in the NFL market look for things like Stadium deals, market size, and NFL players contract to value ateams worth.
You're assuming the buyer wants to take the franchise out of Jacksonville. An investor who wishes to purchase the franchise and stay doesn't want to see blackouts.
Why would an investor buy the team and keep it in Jacksonville considering there may be NO salary cap in 2011 ? Any investor spending mucho dinero on the Jags would already have an LA move andnew stadium commitmentsin place. WW is here because of loyalty, not finance.
The NFL wants a team in Los Angeles because LA is the biggest TV market in the USA. However, the NFL's broadcast revenue is evenly dispersed amongst the teams, with each team getting a check with exactly the same amount of dollars applied to it. Thus, there is an impetus for the league; but not really for the investor.
A sale of the Jaguars doesn't necessarily mean a move to LA.
Who gets the revenues from the PSLs ?
Who saves by not paying for a stadium lease from a new free stadium paid by the city of LA & surrounding counties?
Who gets the revenues from Stadium Naming rights ?
Those are all things that WW is missing out on here that an investor would get in L.A. LA has the Corporate Support that you can't get in Jax.
There's a reason Modell moved his team to Baltimore. It Just made financial sense. Thank God for WW's loyalty thus far.
There is no free stadium. I don't know what you are talking about (and neither do you).
Everyone (except you) knows the city of Baltimore is paying for the new Stadium and charging ownership the bare minimum just to have a contract lease in place. That is the reason modell moved the team !!! I also noticed you didn't mention anything about Corp support in LA, naming rights, etc ---- like I stated above, any investor in the Jags will NOT keep the team in Jax.
Look, as recently as April of this year, Los Angeles lawmakers have rejected the most recent proposal for a 'free stadium' paid by taxpayer dollars, citing that taxpayer dollars "shouldn't" go towards financing a NFL stadium. However, Roski is still gunning for a stadium, thinks he has the support and wants to put up the money himself to just do it. Some of the ideas for a team include moving either Oakland or San Francisco, among others, including Jacksonville. I don't know if that means he is going to buy a team or play landlord, but the centerpiece of his plan is a stadium and not a team. Buying a team to play in the stadium he plans to build (on land he owns) doubles the cost. I don't know.
But Wayne Weaver doesn't own JMS and I don't know how long the Jaguars are currently contracted to play there. But the fact that the city owns the stadium does make a relocation more viable to the owner as he wouldn't be on the hook for an empty stadium. Obviously, the city of Jacksonville is invested in keeping the team in Jacksonville. Wayne Weaver has expressed the same intent. Per Roski's website, league officials don't see a relocation as imminent.
So, long story short, you saying that any investor will move the team to get a free stadium deal via the host city is currently bunk. Wayne Weaver is already enjoying the perks you were harping on, sans the naming rights; but with an almost 100% take on parking/concessions. Anyways, what Roski is doing doesn't really matter if you believe Wayne when he says his first and foremost goal is bringing a championship to Jacksonville.
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| HUIZENGA TAKES SWIPE AT AL DAVIS
Posted by Mike Florio on October 28, 2008, 4:06 p.m.
The South Florida Sun-Sentinel reports that Dolphins owner (for now) Wayne Huizenga will soon be selling 90 percent of his remaining 50 percent of the franchise to Stephen Ross, who already owns 100 percent of Huizenga’s other 50 percent.
So, in the end, Ross will have 95 percent and Huizenga will have 5 percent.
Huizenga claims that he’s making the move because he believes that the taxes on capital gains will double if Barack Obama is the next U.S. president. (Does that mean we can now call Mr. Huizenga “Wayne the Plumber”?)
Obama’s camp disputes that the capital gains tax rate would double. “Mr. Huizenga is wrong about Senator Obama’s tax plan, which calls for a maximum capital-gains rate of 20 percent — a third lower than the rate that President Reagan set in 1986,” Obama campaign South Florida spokesman Bobby Gravitz told the Sun-Sentinel. “Furthermore, Senator Obama’s tax cut for 95 percent of working families will mean a whole lot of Dolfans will be better able to afford those ever-rising ticket prices.”
But the truly juicy aspect of this story comes from the final paragraph, in which Huizenga generally addresses his desire to move on.
“It’s been 19 years and after 19 years, it’s kind of time,” Huizenga said. “I don’t want to be one of those owners who gets real old and hangs in there, we know some of those stories already, I don’t want to be one of those guys.”
“One of those guys” to whom undoubtedly was referring is Al Davis, the 79-year-old owner of the Raiders.
Coincidentally, the Raiders visit Miami on November 16.
CBS would be wise to keep cameras fixed on the respective luxury suites of Huizenga and Davis. Because what could unfold above the playing field might be a lot more compelling than anything that happens on it.
See if he was selling the team any time soon, he would sell it now instead of waiting after the season. |
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