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Posted Friday, October 17, 2008 9:50 AM




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Posting strictly from a want of knowledge on the '09 Draft and in response to the '09 Mock provided by WalterFootball.com...

As high as defensive tackle could be on the draft need for the Colts before '09, I consider offensive tackle the biggest need on the team.  Ryan Diem is declining as a player.  On the left side, the Colts have good depth with Charlie Johnson and Tony Ugoh as a starter.  In the interior, rookies Mike Pollack and Jamey Richard will start their third consecutive game on Sunday against the Packers with Lilja backing them up.  I expect Steve Justice to take over the starting spot from Jeff Saturday after this season.  This should equal a well-stocked, young offensive line for the years to come. 

What we have to remember is that the entire Colts' defense is built to play with a lead.  Until that happens, they are a vulnerable bend-but-don't-break defense.  However, if the Colts are up by two posessions, they rarely surrender the lead and Robert Mathis and Dwight Freeney immediately become factors.  The Colts' linebackers subsequently play better as a result.  The Colts have played with a lead only once this year, and it came last week against Baltimore.  The best defense in Indianapolis is, indeed, the offense.  No matter the escelation of a need for a run stuffer, I wouldn't be surprised if the Colts make wide receiver (Marvin Harrison's age) and/or offensive tackle a priority heading into 2009.



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Posted Friday, October 17, 2008 11:27 AM


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NFLDraftBlitz.com came out with a 7 Rd mock draft. Assuming the Jags draft 28th in each round, here are the players they could have taken:

Rd 1(28): Sean Weatherspoon - OLB - Missouri

Rd 2(60): Antoine Caldwell - OC - Alabama

Rd 3(92): Peria Jerry - DT - Mississippi

Rd 4(124): Fenuki Tupou - OT - Oregon

Rd 5(156): Patrick Chung - SS - Oregon

Rd 6(188): Joe Burnett - CB - UCF

All of these players could be Top 100 selections.

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Posted Tuesday, October 21, 2008 12:03 PM




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Stigma (10/17/2008)
NFLDraftBlitz.com came out with a 7 Rd mock draft. Assuming the Jags draft 28th in each round, here are the players they could have taken:

Rd 1(28): Sean Weatherspoon - OLB - Missouri

Rd 2(60): Antoine Caldwell - OC - Alabama

Rd 3(92): Peria Jerry - DT - Mississippi

Rd 4(124): Fenuki Tupou - OT - Oregon

Rd 5(156): Patrick Chung - SS - Oregon

Rd 6(188): Joe Burnett - CB - UCF

All of these players could be Top 100 selections.

 

Best mock for us imaginable.  Jerry is simply a beast.



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Posted Tuesday, October 21, 2008 5:58 PM




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Stigma (10/16/2008)
In this mock draft, assuming the Jags draft 28th in each round, here is who the Jags could be taking:

Rd 1(28): Brian Orapko - DE - Texas

Imagine Brian Orapko, Derrick Harvey and Quentin Moses as part of the Jags DE rotation.

Rd 2(60): Antonie Caldwell - OC/OG - Alabama

Jags draft their heir apparent to the OC position.

Rd 3(92): Tyson Jackson - DT - LSU

Jags take a DT that can play DE on 1st down and short yardage situations.

Check out the mock draft:

http://walterfootball.com/draft2009.php


Quentin Moses?

How can Orakpo help this team if Groves and Harvey are the apparent heirs to the DE positions.

I do like Tyson Jackson. He could move inside and play the DT position with relative ease due to his massive size. He is poised to be a 3-4 DE, so why not draft him to play Tackle.
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Posted Wednesday, October 22, 2008 7:44 AM


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CrackMonster (10/21/2008)
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In this mock draft, assuming the Jags draft 28th in each round, here is who the Jags could be taking:

Rd 1(28): Brian Orapko - DE - Texas

Imagine Brian Orapko, Derrick Harvey and Quentin Moses as part of the Jags DE rotation.

Rd 2(60): Antonie Caldwell - OC/OG - Alabama

Jags draft their heir apparent to the OC position.

Rd 3(92): Tyson Jackson - DT - LSU

Jags take a DT that can play DE on 1st down and short yardage situations.


Check out the mock draft:

http://walterfootball.com/draft2009.php


Quentin Moses?

How can Orakpo help this team if Groves and Harvey are the apparent heirs to the DE positions.

I do like Tyson Jackson. He could move inside and play the DT position with relative ease due to his massive size. He is poised to be a 3-4 DE, so why not draft him to play Tackle.



Sorry about the Quentin Moses quip. I obviously meant Groves. Anyway, the key to a successful pass rush is a wave of pressure on every play. Having three quality pass rushers obviously makes sense from a depth persepective as well as a rotation persepective.

How many times have we seen that depth is what saves the team when a player goes down or is slightly dinged?

Also consider a situation where all three pass rushers are on the field at the same time?

The Jags lack depth at DE. Finding that third DE could be the difference in elevating the play of the entire defense. To me it is a priority that has been shelved far too long.
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Posted Wednesday, October 22, 2008 11:48 PM




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Stigma (10/16/2008)
In this mock draft, assuming the Jags draft 28th in each round, here is who the Jags could be taking:

Rd 1(28): Brian Orapko - DE - Texas

Imagine Brian Orapko, Derrick Harvey and Quentin Moses as part of the Jags DE rotation.

Rd 2(60): Antonie Caldwell - OC/OG - Alabama

Jags draft their heir apparent to the OC position.

Rd 3(92): Tyson Jackson - DT - LSU

Jags take a DT that can play DE on 1st down and short yardage situations.


Check out the mock draft:

http://walterfootball.com/draft2009.php


Quentin Moses?

How can Orakpo help this team if Groves and Harvey are the apparent heirs to the DE positions.

I do like Tyson Jackson. He could move inside and play the DT position with relative ease due to his massive size. He is poised to be a 3-4 DE, so why not draft him to play Tackle.



Sorry about the Quentin Moses quip. I obviously meant Groves. Anyway, the key to a successful pass rush is a wave of pressure on every play. Having three quality pass rushers obviously makes sense from a depth persepective as well as a rotation persepective.

How many times have we seen that depth is what saves the team when a player goes down or is slightly dinged?

Also consider a situation where all three pass rushers are on the field at the same time?

The Jags lack depth at DE. Finding that third DE could be the difference in elevating the play of the entire defense. To me it is a priority that has been shelved far too long.


Your concern with the Jaguars pass rush, or lack thereof, is admirable.

However, where in the bloody hell are they all going to line up? Is Orakpo going to line up as Tackle on certain situations with Groves and Harvey? Or are you dismissing Groves as our starter and plugging in Brian? Tell me.

I like Orakpo but I don't like seeing Groves benched.
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Posted Thursday, October 23, 2008 3:30 PM


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Just as MoJo is not a starter but still contributes greatly, so too would another Rd 1 DE selection.

 

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Posted Thursday, October 23, 2008 4:27 PM




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nate (10/21/2008)
Stigma (10/17/2008)
NFLDraftBlitz.com came out with a 7 Rd mock draft. Assuming the Jags draft 28th in each round, here are the players they could have taken:

Rd 1(28): Sean Weatherspoon - OLB - Missouri

Rd 2(60): Antoine Caldwell - OC - Alabama

Rd 3(92): Peria Jerry - DT - Mississippi

Rd 4(124): Fenuki Tupou - OT - Oregon

Rd 5(156): Patrick Chung - SS - Oregon

Rd 6(188): Joe Burnett - CB - UCF

All of these players could be Top 100 selections.

 

Best mock for us imaginable.  Jerry is simply a beast.

 

I like that scenario also, only considering the shape of the OL overall I would be a little concerned about waiting til round 4 to pick an OT/OG. I'd maybe swap those two picks and go with a lighter caliber DT. I still don't think there is any real proof that interior DL drafted in later rounds are necessarily any weaker than players drafted in higher rounds past round one

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Posted Thursday, October 23, 2008 6:03 PM




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Just as MoJo is not a starter but still contributes greatly, so too would another Rd 1 DE selection.



Yeah, but MJD doesn't have Greg Jones to rotate in also.

I'd rather pick Tyson Jackson, move him to DT and let him wreak havoc.
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Posted Saturday, October 25, 2008 1:20 PM




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it will be something like this (assuming we keep our draft order)

1st - LB
2nd - DT
3rd - OL
4th - SS
5th - OL

IMO
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