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| Zero0101 (9/7/2008)
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It's easy to complete 65% of your passes when 75% of them are check downs.It's hard to throw anything other than check downs when you're getting hit in the face every other play. What about when you've got 4-6 seconds and you still check it to the RB? Ah, and you know for a fact his receivers were wide open, right? I'd say let's wait for the opinions of the guys that were actually at that game and know more about football than you and I, but you'll just respond by insulting their intelligence after they disagree with you. At any rate, FBT is somewhat accurate. Garrard obviously did not play perfectly (even though I've not heard a single people make that claim), but to try to put the loss on his shoulders is insane and only serves to demonstrate the personal feelings of people like Alfie. I haven't seen anything that Aflie's posted that would indicate that he's putting the loss on Garrard. He's simply stating fact when it comes to the fact that Garrard's play must be better. ***EDIT*** Just saw Alfie's thread blaming a mediocre performance by the QB for the loss. Seriously, Alfie. Extract yourself from Uncle Pete's rectum for a few minutes and think for yourself, bud.
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| | | Posted Sunday, September 07, 2008 5:49 PM | |
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| FBT (9/7/2008)
While I don't think Garrard deserves the bashing that some are willing to pass along because of his performance today, he's not completely free from mistakes in this game. He has a total aversion to the concept of throwing the ball away even when he has the opportunity to do so. He also had some accuracy issues where he had open receivers and he threw the ball behind them on at least a handfull of occasions. He didn't play error free football by any stretch.
However, the loss was hardly on his shoulders.
The Jaguars defense was clearly overwhelmed once again showing a complete inability to tackle when they had their guys stopped. They also looked downright slow out there despite the fact that they are a very quick unit.
The offensive line was struggling all day long, but is that really a surprise when you lose your two guards during the game and you are running a backup at center? The interior of the line looked like ajail break on just about every snap out there becuase they couldn't stop the rush.
This game was very much the same as last year on opening day where the team looked sluggish coming out of the gate. They found a way to turn it around and get on a roll that landed them in the playoffs. They'll do the same again this year. This is still a very good football team.
I agree that, while Garrard made a lot of mistakes, it was far from him being the main reason they lost. And what about them being fine without Meester? Also, I understand that it's just one game and they're still a good team, if they ever want to win the division, games like this can't be happening. And they aren't getting a break with their schedule at the beginning of this year like they did last year, so unless they turn it around instantly unlike last year, they can easily put themselves in a hole they won't be able to claw out of.
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| | | Posted Sunday, September 07, 2008 5:51 PM | |
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| Garrard bashers? Is that what they are calling the Titans Dline these days?
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| | | Posted Sunday, September 07, 2008 5:51 PM | |
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| Zero0101 (9/7/2008)
Alfie (9/7/2008)
Zero0101 (9/7/2008)
Alfie (9/7/2008)
It's easy to complete 65% of your passes when 75% of them are check downs.
It's hard to throw anything other than check downs when you're getting hit in the face every other play.
What about when you've got 4-6 seconds and you still check it to the RB?
Ah, and you know for a fact his receivers were wide open, right? I'd say let's wait for the opinions of the guys that were actually at that game and know more about football than you and I, but you'll just respond by insulting their intelligence after they disagree with you.
At any rate, FBT is somewhat accurate. Garrardobviously did not play perfectly (even though I've not heard a single people make that claim),but to try to put the loss on his shoulders is insane and only serves to demonstrate the personal feelings of people like Alfie.
It's not squarely on his shoulders. I haven't blamed JUST Garrard. I said he's a big reason. You can't convince me that someone who turns the ball over 3 times, once in the redzone and kills a couple drives by taking a sack instead of throwing it away.
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| | | Posted Sunday, September 07, 2008 5:53 PM | |
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| cheba63 (9/7/2008)
FBT (9/7/2008)
While I don't think Garrard deserves the bashing that some are willing to pass along because of his performance today, he's not completely free from mistakes in this game. He has a total aversion to the concept of throwing the ball away even when he has the opportunity to do so. He also had some accuracy issues where he had open receivers and he threw the ball behind them on at least a handfull of occasions. He didn't play error free football by any stretch.
However, the loss was hardly on his shoulders.
The Jaguars defense was clearly overwhelmed once again showing a complete inability to tackle when they had their guys stopped. They also looked downright slow out there despite the fact that they are a very quick unit.
The offensive line was struggling all day long, but is that really a surprise when you lose your two guards during the game and you are running a backup at center? The interior of the line looked like ajail break on just about every snap out there becuase they couldn't stop the rush.
This game was very much the same as last year on opening day where the team looked sluggish coming out of the gate. They found a way to turn it around and get on a roll that landed them in the playoffs. They'll do the same again this year. This is still a very good football team.I agree that, while Garrard made a lot of mistakes, it was far from him being the main reason they lost. And what about them being fine without Meester? Also, I understand that it's just one game and they're still a good team, if they ever want to win the division, games like this can't be happening. And they aren't getting a break with their schedule at the beginning of this year like they did last year, so unless they turn it around instantly unlike last year, they can easily put themselves in a hole they won't be able to claw out of. The line is fine without Meester. However, when you lose your starting RG early in the process, then lose his backup, then lose your starting LG, all coming off of a week where one of their unit teammates is left fighting for his life, that's a lot to deal with, especially against one of the better defensive lines in the league.
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| | | Posted Sunday, September 07, 2008 5:53 PM | |
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| Alfie (9/7/2008)
The last play of the game summed up why we lost.
I know everyone will blame the offensive line and the defense as usual, but this loss rests solely on the shoulders of David Garrard being completely ineffective and inefficient ALL GAME LONG.Excuse me for jumping to conclusions... Maybe you should work harder to clarify your opinions before you post your whiny diabtribes.
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| | | Posted Sunday, September 07, 2008 5:58 PM | |
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| Alfie (9/7/2008)
Zero0101 (9/7/2008)
Alfie (9/7/2008)
Zero0101 (9/7/2008)
Alfie (9/7/2008)
It's easy to complete 65% of your passes when 75% of them are check downs.It's hard to throw anything other than check downs when you're getting hit in the face every other play. What about when you've got 4-6 seconds and you still check it to the RB? Ah, and you know for a fact his receivers were wide open, right? I'd say let's wait for the opinions of the guys that were actually at that game and know more about football than you and I, but you'll just respond by insulting their intelligence after they disagree with you. At any rate, FBT is somewhat accurate. Garrardobviously did not play perfectly (even though I've not heard a single people make that claim),but to try to put the loss on his shoulders is insane and only serves to demonstrate the personal feelings of people like Alfie. It's not squarely on his shoulders. I haven't blamed JUST Garrard. I said he's a big reason. You can't convince me that someone who turns the ball over 3 times, once in the redzone and kills a couple drives by taking a sack instead of throwing it away. Alfie, you can't win that argument, you're using logic. When comes to fans, logic is the furthest thing from their minds. Thwe Titans, though I hate to admit it, have one of the best front sevens in the NFL, period. Most of the game, including a lot of the obvious passing downs, they stayed in 4-3 and dared DG to beat them with his arm. He had 3, 5, and 7 step drops where he didn't throw the ball at the end. That is not the OL fault, that is the QB's fault. They will never admit it though. |
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| | | Posted Sunday, September 07, 2008 5:59 PM | |
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| FBT (9/7/2008)The line is fine without Meester. However, when you lose your starting RG early in the process, then lose his backup, then lose your starting LG, all coming off of a week where one of their unit teammates is left fighting for his life, that's a lot to deal with, especially against one of the better defensive lines in the league.
While obviously those injuries were damaging as well, I just think it's no coincidence that the Jags offense didn't really come together last year until Meester came back, although I'll admit there were other reasons as well.
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| FBT (9/7/2008)
Zero0101 (9/7/2008)
Alfie (9/7/2008)
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Alfie (9/7/2008)
It's easy to complete 65% of your passes when 75% of them are check downs.
It's hard to throw anything other than check downs when you're getting hit in the face every other play.
What about when you've got 4-6 seconds and you still check it to the RB?
Ah, and you know for a fact his receivers were wide open, right? I'd say let's wait for the opinions of the guys that were actually at that game and know more about football than you and I, but you'll just respond by insulting their intelligence after they disagree with you.
At any rate, FBT is somewhat accurate. Garrardobviously did not play perfectly (even though I've not heard a single people make that claim),but to try to put the loss on his shoulders is insane and only serves to demonstrate the personal feelings of people like Alfie.
I haven't seen anything that Aflie's posted that would indicate that he's putting the loss on Garrard. He's simply stating fact when it comes to the fact that Garrard's play must be better.
***EDIT*** Just saw Alfie's thread blaming a mediocre performance by the QB for the loss. Seriously, Alfie. Extract yourself from Uncle Pete's rectum for a few minutes and think for yourself, bud.
Has Prisco commented on the game yet, bud?
Get a new line. It's like pulling the Leftwich card, old and tired.
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| | | Posted Sunday, September 07, 2008 6:03 PM | |
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| Zero0101 (9/7/2008)
Alfie (9/7/2008)
The last play of the game summed up why we lost.
I know everyone will blame the offensive line and the defense as usual, but this loss rests solely on the shoulders of David Garrard being completely ineffective and inefficient ALL GAME LONG.
Excuse me for jumping to conclusions...
Maybe you should work harder to clarify your opinions before you post your whiny diabtribes.
While that post I did say he was the sole reason, it was made as the game ended.
He was a big reason for the loss, however. I'm not sure how that isn't painfully obvious.
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