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| BUCKETHEAD (8/15/2008)
"We are all part gay... supposedly." Steve Zissou"It's only gay if you look down." -ManningEnvy
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| | | Posted Friday, August 15, 2008 7:36 PM | |
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| | | Posted Friday, August 15, 2008 7:40 PM | |
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| - Main Entry:
- cross–dress·ing
- Pronunciation:
- \ˈkrȯs-ˌdre-siŋ\
- Function:
- noun
- Date:
- 1911
: the wearing of clothes designed for the opposite sex — cross–dress intransitive verb — cross–dress·er noun -
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- Main Entry:
- trans·ves·tite
- Pronunciation:
- \tran(t)s-ˈves-ˌtīt, tranz-\
- Function:
- noun
- Etymology:
- German Transvestit, from Latin trans- + vestire to clothe — more at
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- circa 1922
: a person and especially a male who adopts the dress and often the behavior typical of the opposite sex especially for purposes of emotional or sexual gratification _____________________________________________________________ - Main Entry:
- trans·sex·u·al
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- also tran·sex·u·al \(ˌ)tran(t)s-ˈsek-sh(ə-)wəl, -shəl\
- Function:
- noun
- Date:
- 1957
: a person who strongly identifies with the opposite sex and may seek to live as a member of this sex especially by undergoing surgery and hormone therapy to obtain the necessary physical appearance (as by changing the external sex organs) — transsexual adjective — trans·sex·u·al·ism also tran·sex·u·al·ism \-sh(ə-)wə-ˌli-zəm, -shə-ˌli-\ noun — trans·sex·u·al·i·ty also tran·sex·u·al·i·ty \-ˌsek-shə-ˈwa-lə-tē\ noun _______________________________________________________________ Are you guys clear on this now?
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| | | Posted Saturday, August 16, 2008 4:35 PM | |
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| jones&24 (8/15/2008)
At 15 I had a pretty d*** good idea what I was attracted to.
you mean, other than beer..... 
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| | | Posted Saturday, August 16, 2008 4:44 PM | |
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| jagibelieve (8/15/2008)
TheSpacePope (8/15/2008)
To THINK he is gay?
So, what, he was a straight guy who just happened to be attracted to males?
I'm a Conservative and I find your stance deplorable.Find my stance however you want. It makes no difference to me. I am of the belief that nobody is "born gay". Sexuality is a learned experience not a genetic one.
I'd agree with that somewhat.
IMO, being that there seems to be more young people that are "gay" now than before, I think it is because they are brainwashed from TV and such outlets that are constantly shoving it in your face (figure of speech).
I think that there "might" be the .5% of the naturally occurring or "born gay" as you spoke of, but IMO, I think nowadays, you see more and more immitation or at least "choice", than anything.
I think its the agenda pushers that want to make you think that "all" of todays current gay community are so called "born" that way. I don't buy it.
Then again, I'm speaking from the heterosexual, middle of the political road, POV, not the liberal left.
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| | | Posted Saturday, August 16, 2008 4:58 PM | |
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| The Mad Dog (8/16/2008)
jagibelieve (8/15/2008)
TheSpacePope (8/15/2008)
To THINK he is gay?
So, what, he was a straight guy who just happened to be attracted to males?
I'm a Conservative and I find your stance deplorable.Find my stance however you want. It makes no difference to me. I am of the belief that nobody is "born gay". Sexuality is a learned experience not a genetic one. I'd agree with that somewhat. IMO, being that there seems to be more young people that are "gay" now than before, I think it is because they are brainwashed from TV and such outlets that are constantly shoving it in your face (figure of speech). I think that there "might" be the .5% of the naturally occurring or "born gay" as you spoke of, but IMO, I think nowadays, you see more and more immitation or at least "choice", than anything. I think its the agenda pushers that want to make you think that "all" of todays current gay community are so called "born" that way. I don't buy it. Then again, I'm speaking from the heterosexual, middle of the political road, POV, not the liberal left.
Another way of looking at that trend is that in the past the world/country was a much more hostile environment to be an out of the closet homosexual, whereas now many of those who would have kept it a secret are now more inclined to be public with it. There's evidence to show that in ancient times homosexuality was much more common, and in the peak of the Dark Ages homosexuality was essentially nonexistant (publicly, anway).
Just another perspective.
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| | | Posted Saturday, August 16, 2008 5:08 PM | |
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| Minorcan (8/15/2008)
jagibelieve (8/15/2008)
TheSpacePope (8/15/2008)
How many years has it been since you've been 15, jagibelieve?
For me it's been 8 years - so I have a pretty good memory of what it was like.
Trust me - I knew which gender I was attracted to and I did my best to, ahem, experience those lovely ladies.
I also knew gay guys who knew they were attracted to other guys.
15 is not too young to know what your sexual orientation is.. you're just fooled by all the guys who pretend to be straight and don't have the strength to "come out" until they're older.
To answer your questions.
It's been MANY years since I was 15. Of course, when I was 15 my hormones were RAGING just like any other normal 15 year olds would be.
I still stand by my belief that homosexuality is learned rather than genetic. I have nothing against homo's and what they want to do. As of matter of fact, I have disclosed in the past that my own brother is a pole smoker. It doesn't mean that I love him any less.
As I look back, it was all about how he was brought up and how I was brought up (there is a considerable difference in our ages).
You are just completely and utterly incorrect. I know you whole heartedly beleive what you say, and that's fine, but it's wrong none the less. I have 3 sisters, all straight as an arrow, me not so much. My parents were married for aLOT of years, till death did them part, we were all raised together, same everything, no step parents or brothers, nothing like that. I used to pray I would stop feeling the way I did and tried my hardest to date boys and all of that, but alas, it didn't happen.
At 21 my mother asked me point blank, are you gay?Thank Goodness! I told her the truth. She told me stories of when I was a child and how she thoughtI might be gay based off of some of the ways I acted or things I did. I didn't remember any of the stories she told asI was way too young. Thank goodness my parently accepted me exactly the way I am and never, NEVER made me feel different than the rest of my sisters. I really don't know how my up bringing could have been any more normal.
Well I completely understand and respect your point of view. However, regarding this case in particular, there are a few things that just don't add up. I do believe that this boy had "problems" based on the information that we have. A couple of points that I'll bring up.
He was a ward of the court and living at a shelter for abused, neglected and emotionally troubled children.
He was allowed either by his parents, or the administrators of the shelter to wear "feminine clothing and makeup to school".
I'm sorry, but it is NOT normal for a 15 year old BOY to wear feminine clothing and makeup. This kid obviously had issues, and my guess is he acted out in such a way to confront those issues.
For the most part, most gay people that I have met and gotten to know are "normal" everyday people. By that I mean they don't flaunt their sexuality and most times a person wouldn't even know that they are gay when they meet them. Perhaps these people are somehow physically attracted to the same sex for some biological reason. I don't know.
The ones that "act out" or "flaunt" are the ones that pretty much give homosexuals a bad reputation. There is no way that someone can convince me that those particular people were "born homosexual".
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| | | Posted Saturday, August 16, 2008 5:10 PM | |
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| The Mad Dog (8/16/2008)
jagibelieve (8/15/2008)
TheSpacePope (8/15/2008)
To THINK he is gay?
So, what, he was a straight guy who just happened to be attracted to males?
I'm a Conservative and I find your stance deplorable.
Find my stance however you want. It makes no difference to me. I am of the belief that nobody is "born gay". Sexuality is a learned experience not a genetic one.
I'd agree with that somewhat.
IMO, being that there seems to be more young people that are "gay" now than before, I think it is because they are brainwashed from TV and such outlets that are constantly shoving it in your face (figure of speech).
I think that there "might" bethe.5% of the naturally occurring or"born gay" asyou spoke of, but IMO, I think nowadays, you see more and moreimmitation or at least "choice", than anything.
I thinkits the agenda pushers that want to make you think that "all" of todays current gay community are so called "born" that way. I don't buy it.
Then again, I'mspeaking from the heterosexual,middle of thepolitical road, POV, not the liberal left.
That's pretty much the point that I am trying to make.
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| | | Posted Saturday, August 16, 2008 5:12 PM | |
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| And Mama says, "show me the money! I knew that worthless brat was going to make me proud one day."
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| | | Posted Saturday, August 16, 2008 5:23 PM | |
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| CowboyBarry (8/16/2008)
The Mad Dog (8/16/2008)
jagibelieve (8/15/2008)
TheSpacePope (8/15/2008)
To THINK he is gay?
So, what, he was a straight guy who just happened to be attracted to males?
I'm a Conservative and I find your stance deplorable.Find my stance however you want. It makes no difference to me. I am of the belief that nobody is "born gay". Sexuality is a learned experience not a genetic one. I'd agree with that somewhat. IMO, being that there seems to be more young people that are "gay" now than before, I think it is because they are brainwashed from TV and such outlets that are constantly shoving it in your face (figure of speech). I think that there "might" be the .5% of the naturally occurring or "born gay" as you spoke of, but IMO, I think nowadays, you see more and more immitation or at least "choice", than anything. I think its the agenda pushers that want to make you think that "all" of todays current gay community are so called "born" that way. I don't buy it. Then again, I'm speaking from the heterosexual, middle of the political road, POV, not the liberal left.
Another way of looking at that trend is that in the past the world/country was a much more hostile environment to be an out of the closet homosexual, whereas now many of those who would have kept it a secret are now more inclined to be public with it. There's evidence to show that in ancient times homosexuality was much more common, and in the peak of the Dark Ages homosexuality was essentially nonexistant (publicly, anway).
Just another perspective.
That is another way of looking at it.
I do know that TV can be an influential modem though. Especially on the young. If it wasn't, commercials wouldn't do so well.
Look at the shows that the impressionable young ppl watch today - such as what is on MTV and such, it seems like every show they have has to have some form of homosexuality displayed in it. This isn't by "accident" it is intentional. The people that run MTV and most TV shows are generally liberal. It's just the way it is. Most liberal people support the broadening of the gay movement, thus, what better way to help in that cause is through young people - who will see it, more will immiate. especially if in shows it is displayed as "cool" or at the very least, "normal" i.e. (learned behavior).
Honestly, I don't have a problem at all with the few (and IMO it is 'few" that really are born gay. As said in that previous post, I don't think "all" gay people that you see nowadays are born gay, but I also don't believe that it is "all" just learned behavior either. I think in say, Minorcan's case, she describes what probably is the .5% that I speak of.
What i don't approve of is the constant agenda pushers that seem to be hell bent on trying to make the society what seems like all gay. I.e hyping up Lindsay Lohan's (note - influential, popular with young people) current item, for example...
A lot of it in TV, IMO is ratings/ money induced, too. They know that you can put 2 chicks on TV making out & what not, and you're gonna get a higher audience. I guess what I am trying to show is there is a corruptness, involved somewhere in the agenda as well.
It's tough, though, because of my religious beliefs, I believe homosexuality is a sin, yet, like in someone like minorcans case, I can see that there is a gray area, where it is not something that is a blatant disregard of religious teachings.
I don't want to go on some religious power trip or anything, but it seems as if the further we (as a society) stray from God, the more the society as a whole just deteriorates.
/end rant.
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