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| ThunderCat (5/30/2008)
IIRC the hit was a penalty due to the WR being in a defenseless position. When the penalty flag came out I was pissed, but after a couple of replays and Vic explanation I guess I understand. Though I like the fact that it still happened because the reputation is out there. Jags can lay the lumber!
Rob in SAThat "defenseless WR" rule is B.S. What about when a QB gets blindsided on a sack? He's defenseless. Or when a guy is running after a ball carrier and another player lays a serious block on him he never saw coming. He is defenseless. Is the rulle just because the WR is in the air? If so, it is still B.S. They should have got rid of that rule like they did the "force out" rule. BTW, my favorite is still the clothesline Darius put on the Green Bay WR. Now that was a reputation maker.
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| Omg Its Leftwich (5/30/2008)
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I don't think Reggie Nelson is all that fast. He has typical speed for a 1st round safety, around 4.45.What he does have are good football skills (tackling, intercepting, avoiding blocks ...), and excellent reaction time and instincts. He was the best player on the best college defense in 2006. That was at the time his mother died, and that was not the right time to go run at the combine. At his pro day he ran a 4.35. Pro Days are notorious for turning out artificially fast times. As a Gator fan I watched him play a lot. He has good speed for a safety, but not compared to CBs or WRs. He gets to the receiver quickly because he reacts fast, but a lot of the pass breakups in college became tackles after the catch last year. This is not to say he won't in time be a terrific safety, but it won't be because he's exceptionally fast.
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| ThunderCat (5/30/2008)
IIRC the hit was a penalty due to the WR being in a defenseless position. When the penalty flag came out I was pissed, but after a couple of replays and Vic explanation I guess I understand. Though I like the fact that it still happened because the reputation is out there. Jags can lay the lumber!
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The WR had the ball and Nelson went through him with his shoulder. That is not a penalty. |
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| The comments that RFN needs to bulk up are silly. Some players just have an innate ability to hit, and Reggie is one of them. Much like Troy Polamaou. What difference is 5lbs going to make either way?
As far as his speed, you will see it shine as he gets more comfortable on defense. You could actually see the progression in games throughout the year. I don't care what he ran in the combine, Reggie has elite speed and has shown glimpses to date. The more comfortable he is, the more consistent he will be in showing it.
What is most intriguing to me for this coming year is how we will use Reggie on the field. If you just watched him in games last year, he would immediately backpedal at the snap of the ball and not just on 3rd and long. At first I thought it was his play, but it seemed like the D wanted to use him to cover the last quarter of the field rather than play a traditional cover 2. I don't think this is something you can see on TV, so I am curious if anyone else noticed this or if this tied into the overall defensive scheme. I always thought we played a traditional cover 2, but most of the time it did not seem like we were in it.
No doubt Reggie turned in a nice rookie season, but he was lost on a few plays last year in the secondary - the Colts home game come to mind immediately. Hopefully he will continue on his progression and be more consistent this year. |
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| allhaildelrio (5/30/2008)
The comments that RFN needs to bulk up are silly. Some players just have an innate ability to hit, and Reggie is one of them. Much like Troy Polamaou. What difference is 5lbs going to make either way?
As far as his speed, you will see it shine as he gets more comfortable on defense. You could actually see the progression in games throughout the year. I don't care what he ran in the combine, Reggie has elite speed and has shown glimpses to date. The more comfortable he is, the more consistent he will be in showing it.
What is most intriguing to me for this coming year is how we will use Reggie on the field. If you just watched him in games last year, he would immediately backpedal at the snap of the ball and not just on 3rd and long. At first I thought it was his play, but it seemed like the D wanted to use him to cover the last quarter of the field rather than play a traditional cover 2. I don't think this is something you can see on TV, so I am curious if anyone else noticed this or if this tied into the overall defensive scheme. I always thought we played a traditional cover 2, but most of the time it did not seem like we were in it.
No doubt Reggie turned in a nice rookie season, but he was lost on a few plays last year in the secondary - the Colts home game come to mind immediately. Hopefully he will continue on his progression and be more consistent this year.
Polamalu is a horrible example. He's a terrible tackler.
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| Chaos SOldier (5/30/2008)
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IIRC the hit was a penalty due to the WR being in a defenseless position. When the penalty flag came out I was pissed, but after a couple of replays and Vic explanation I guess I understand. Though I like the fact that it still happened because the reputation is out there. Jags can lay the lumber!
Rob in SAThe WR had the ball and Nelson went through him with his shoulder. That is not a penalty. I like how Del Rio praised the hit, and told Nelson to keep it up. Del Rio doesn't mind aggressive penalties at all. It's the bone-headed penalties he takes issue with.
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| jagabc6893 (5/30/2008)
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IIRC the hit was a penalty due to the WR being in a defenseless position. When the penalty flag came out I was pissed, but after a couple of replays and Vic explanation I guess I understand. Though I like the fact that it still happened because the reputation is out there. Jags can lay the lumber!
Rob in SAThat "defenseless WR" rule is B.S. What about when a QB gets blindsided on a sack? He's defenseless. Or when a guy is running after a ball carrier and another player lays a serious block on him he never saw coming. He is defenseless. Is the rulle just because the WR is in the air? If so, it is still B.S. They should have got rid of that rule like they did the "force out" rule. BTW, my favorite is still the clothesline Darius put on the Green Bay WR. Now that was a reputation maker. 
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| BTW, my favorite is still the clothesline Darius put on the Green Bay WR. Now that was a reputation maker. Atleast darius was nice enough to visit dood in the hospital (; |
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| It'll be interesting to see if Williams uses Reggie in a cover 3, like he did with Laron Landry last year, where he put him deep and let him cover both sides of the field. He's probably not as fast as Landry but he does have better instincts and ball skills. It's exciting to hear Henderson compare him with Reed, who's probably the the best defensive player in the league IMO, and his experience should help Reggie mature to eliminate the occasional mental errors.
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