Yahoo Sports says that the Jags drafting Harvey was the 4th worst move of the NFL offseason.
 
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Posted Friday, May 16, 2008 1:07 PM





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Let them talk, our DE situation was bad prior to the draft, Hayward cant stay healthy, McCray left and was inconsistent, and Spicer is getting old, we needed young and talented added at this position and we got it, adding a dumbass like Allen who will probably get in trouble again would have been a mistake, just like adding an aging Jason Taylor. These guys are so desperate for numbers to place in a cheezy sports column. Im not even going to sweat it.




 
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Posted Friday, May 16, 2008 10:10 PM



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It's all speculation now and the truth will be known after a couple of seasons. What worries me about this trade up is the loss of the draft picks means we are not capable of adding depth on the bench, which we all know to be a requirement to be successful. Maybe the Jags feel the bench is strong enough, I don't know. But the reality is; injuries are going to happen and the bench players are going to be thrown into duty and the better teams are the ones who have better players in reserve.

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Post #525921
Posted Saturday, May 17, 2008 12:05 AM





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I think most people had a feeling they'd trade up because of all the picks they had accumulated. I think the real question is was Harvey worth it? That's something only time will tell and I agree it has more to do about the players they could have added than it does about Harvey and his skills.

I think the Jags found themselves in pretty good shape after pre-draft free agency signings and decided they didn't need the picks so they were going to trade up for a player they thought could add the most value, and that was Harvey.

Some people will question the worthiness of it since they could have gotten other DE's first round and gotten guys in the 3rd and fourth rounds and assigned them to practice squad and I think that's a legitimate view since they really are not out of the free agency "dog house" yet, but in reality they only lost like 2 picks in the draft after trading up? That ain't too bad.

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Posted Saturday, May 17, 2008 3:47 AM





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the Chiefjag (5/16/2008)
It's all speculation now and the truth will be known after a couple of seasons. What worries me about this trade up is the loss of the draft picks means we are not capable of adding depth on the bench, which we all know to be a requirement to be successful. Maybe the Jags feel the bench is strong enough, I don't know. But the reality is; injuries are going to happen and the bench players are going to be thrown into duty and the better teams are the ones who have better players in reserve.

Regards................the Chiefjag

 

When you look at the roster, it's rather deep right now. There are a few positions still lacking depth, but for the most positions you're simply not going to find an upgrade in third or fourth round of the draft.

What I still love about the deal is the value. The Jaguars gave up two thirds and a fourth. By all rights, and per the charts, to move up those 18 spots the Jaguars should have given up two thirds and a second. Had they given up two thirds and a second, then I'd agree with most of these analysts that the Jaguars made a bad move by reaching with the 8th pick. We'd have still had Harvey, but we'd have a fourth round pick instead of Groves.

Quite frankly, the deal the Jaguars managed to pull off was nothing short of sheer genius. Not only do I rank it as the single best move of this draft, but as the best move I've ever witnessed in any draft.



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Post #526051
Posted Saturday, May 17, 2008 7:39 AM





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cunninghamj (5/15/2008)
If he gets 13 sacks a year for a few years I have a feeling you wont hear about it from them ever again.

If he gets 13 sacks a year for a few years, he'll be a first ballot Hall of Famer.

Post #526064
Posted Saturday, May 17, 2008 8:12 AM





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piggyback (5/17/2008)
cunninghamj (5/15/2008)
If he gets 13 sacks a year for a few years I have a feeling you wont hear about it from them ever again.


If he gets 13 sacks a year for a few years, he'll be a first ballot Hall of Famer.
No doubt. I don't think anyone has done that before.




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Post #526067
Posted Saturday, May 17, 2008 8:14 AM





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It will take more than a few years of 13 sacks a season to be a first ballot hall of famer.



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Post #526068
Posted Saturday, May 17, 2008 8:45 AM





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JacksJags (5/17/2008)
It will take more than a few years of 13 sacks a season to be a first ballot hall of famer.
Are you kidding me? A few years (3 or more) is on pace of breaking records.




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Post #526078
Posted Saturday, May 17, 2008 9:21 AM





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Jagwired'd (5/17/2008)
JacksJags (5/17/2008)
It will take more than a few years of 13 sacks a season to be a first ballot hall of famer.
Are you kidding me? A few years (3 or more) is on pace of breaking records.


And Tony Boselli only allowed two sacks his entire career.. is he going to the HOF? DEs are judged not only by their impact - but how long they were an impact player.




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Post #526089
Posted Saturday, May 17, 2008 10:17 AM





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