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| BJORN TOURAQUE (5/4/2008)
The Mad Dog (5/4/2008)
BJORN TOURAQUE (5/4/2008)
A herniated disk in 2004 and a torn ACL last year makes a "medical reject" now?He's had other nagging injuries as well. Don't sit there and act as if Wrighster hasn't been injury prone. I could have sworn Wrighster had a shoulder issue at some point during his Jags career as well, along with ankle issues at some point too. It's not like Wrighster is all that great that looking for a better option who can remain healthy should be out of the question. I don't think we missed him much at all even with Angulo & Smolko in there. Wrighster's not worth the $$$ or the nuiscence of having to endure all the injuries he seems to sustain. Put up or shut up. 2003 GP 15 2004 GP 4 (Hernated Disk) 2005 GP 16 2006 GP 16 2007 GP 11 (ACL) Where do all of these injurys come in? I never said he was Tony Gonzalez. But, hey, it's the TMD Happy Fun Slander Game.
No slander. I said he was injury prone. It would appear over his brief career that it would be a fair label.
The above you list just tabs games played.
It does not account for times when Wrighster had injuries that limited his game, but he still shows up on a stat sheet as "played".
As said before, given Wrighster's contract, we're better off going with players like Angulo, Smolko, Estandia to round out the TE position as there was little/ if any drop off without Wrighster and those players all make the minimum salary, and may prove to be more durable than GW.
TMD's Jags draft: as of 3/ 11/08
1)DE Calais Campbell 2) RB Ray Rice 3a) DT Frank Okam 3b) trade to Mia for DE Jason Taylor 4) C Cody Wallace 5a) CB Terrence Wheatley 5b) WR William Franklin 5c) SS Caleb Campbell
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Last Login: Friday, August 01, 2008 5:25 PM
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| Per Rotoworld:
George Wrighster 2008: $825,000
Compared to
Joe Zelenka 2008: $670,000 Big money, eh?
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| BJORN TOURAQUE (5/4/2008)
Per Rotoworld:
George Wrighster 2008: $825,000
Compared to
Joe Zelenka 2008: $670,000 Big money, eh?
Why would you use Zelenka as comparison & not the players we were talking about, i.e. Angulo, Smolko, Estandia?
Zelenka's salary is that much because of his years of service. Which also makes him an increasing chance to be replaced as time goes by. The Jags most certainly would like to get a cheaper option at LS, if they could. Ideally, it would be nice if Adam Bishop panned out and made the roster as a TE3, as the Jags could then use one roster spot for essentially 2 positions. (LS/ TE3)
If they can get = production for less pay as well as potentially having a player who is more durable, then why wouldn't the Jaguars entertain the option of replacing Wrighster?
TMD's Jags draft: as of 3/ 11/08
1)DE Calais Campbell 2) RB Ray Rice 3a) DT Frank Okam 3b) trade to Mia for DE Jason Taylor 4) C Cody Wallace 5a) CB Terrence Wheatley 5b) WR William Franklin 5c) SS Caleb Campbell
Follow this & we'll be playing in Tampa next February
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Last Login: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 9:44 AM
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| Reb Bryant and Owen from WVU would be the only ones from that list that I would've been happy with the Jaguars taking.
But, with the picks we had this year and the players we got with them I think our draft class was definitely a B. I'm overall pleased and excited to see how these players develop.
Believe It: 2008-2009 Wr Crop
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| The Mad Dog (5/4/2008)
BJORN TOURAQUE (5/4/2008)
Per Rotoworld:
George Wrighster 2008: $825,000
Compared to
Joe Zelenka 2008: $670,000 Big money, eh? Why would you use Zelenka as comparison & not the players we were talking about, i.e. Angulo, Smolko, Estandia? Zelenka's salary is that much because of his years of service. Which also makes him an increasing chance to be replaced as time goes by. The Jags most certainly would like to get a cheaper option at LS, if they could. Ideally, it would be nice if Adam Bishop panned out and made the roster as a TE3, as the Jags could then use one roster spot for essentially 2 positions. (LS/ TE3) If they can get = production for less pay as well as potentially having a player who is more durable, then why wouldn't the Jaguars entertain the option of replacing Wrighster?
I used him because he's a TE. I'll do the leg work to help you prove your point:
Richard Angulo 2008: $520,000
Greg Estandia 2008: $370,000
Issac Smolko 2008: $370,000Also:
Smolko: Career - 1 Reception.
Estandia: Career - 9 receptions.
Angulo: Career - 8 Receptions.
Wrighster: 2007 - 17 receptions.
So, which way do you want to go with this?
Where is the equal production? 17 last year vs 18 for all other 3?
Where is the big money problem? $825,000 for 17 receptions vs $1,260,000 for 18 receptions?
Where is the injury problem? 2005 & 2006 16 games played each.
2006 - 39 receptions, more than double the total careers of the other 3 combined.
I just don't see the argument of replacing him, and I don't buy the "medical reject" label.
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| The bottom line is that Wrighster needs to be upgraded, and he will be. If he does some how make the final roster this year, he will be limited. I doubt he is around by next year.
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Last Login: Friday, August 01, 2008 5:25 PM
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| Again, based on what? That he's not Tony Gonzalez? Based on something proven and better that we have?
What am I missing here? In this thread he's been called "aging" at 27 and a "medical reject" with two career injures and it's been said that there are others with equal production on this team.
I see no basis for any of these claims. And he got a 5 year extension in 2006.
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| BJORN TOURAQUE (5/4/2008)
Again, based on what? That he's not Tony Gonzalez? Based on something proven and better that we have?
What am I missing here? In this thread he's been called "aging" at 27 and a "medical reject" with two career injures and it's been said that there are others with equal production on this team.
I see no basis for any of these claims. And he got a 5 year extension in 2006.His chronic injuries and lack of production remind me of Byron, Stroud and Naeole (though older) to a certain extent. All of those mentioned have been released or traded. That is why I think he and Mike P both will be gone soon. Maybe not this year, but by next year. How many years with serious injuries qualifies a guy as "injury prone" in your book? 2 out of the last 3 would do it for me. And I believe he had a less serious "nagging" injury the other year. Wrighster is pretty good when he is on the field, but he has not done much the last 3 years and now has a bad knee injury. IMO, If you can see why some people think he may be replaced, then you don't pay enough attention to the team.
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| jagabc6893 (5/4/2008)
BJORN TOURAQUE (5/4/2008)
Again, based on what? That he's not Tony Gonzalez? Based on something proven and better that we have?
What am I missing here? In this thread he's been called "aging" at 27 and a "medical reject" with two career injures and it's been said that there are others with equal production on this team.
I see no basis for any of these claims. And he got a 5 year extension in 2006. His chronic injuries and lack of production remind me of Byron, Stroud and Naeole (though older) to a certain extent. All of those mentioned have been released or traded. That is why I think he and Mike P both will be gone soon. Maybe not this year, but by next year. How many years with serious injuries qualifies a guy as "injury prone" in your book? 2 out of the last 3 would do it for me. And I believe he had a less serious "nagging" injury the other year. Wrighster is pretty good when he is on the field, but he has not done much the last 3 years and now has a bad knee injury. IMO, If you can see why some people think he may be replaced, then you don't pay enough attention to the team.
OK, mini-mad dog, I was trying to be polite. Seeing as you're such the expert on the team I haven't been paying attention to, it's your turn to put up or shut up.
What is this mystery injury that you are referring to? What exactly is this "chronic" "nagging" injury? Name it or shut it up.
And lack of production. You're a funny one. Last year Marcedes Lewis was ranked 14th for TEs with his 37 catches for 391 yards and 2 TD's in 18 games in the almighty fantasy football rankings.
http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/playerrankings/regularseason/TE
In 2006 Wrighster had 39 catches for 353 yards and 3 TD's in 16 games. Should we cut Lewis for his lack of production too? Lewis had an injury his rookie year. He must be "injury prone" too, huh? That's one "serious" "nagging" injury every 2 years by your math.
2 of the last three years he's had "serious injures" has he? OK, smart man, how does starting in 16 games in 2005 and 16 games in 2006 equal "serious injury" in 2 of the last three years? Does a "serious injury" cause you to start all 16 games in 2 consecutive seasons. Is making up things what does it for you?
IMO, if you can't do simple math to back up your BS opinions you shouldn't be posting your opinions on a messageboard.
Again. You've called him "aging" at one month removed from 27 and "injury prone" with "2 serious injures" in the past 3 years that he somehow managed to play through and said he has no production. All crap. All lies.
Who's not paying attention to this team, you tool?
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