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Posted Tuesday, May 06, 2008 4:21 PM




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Good lord.. they run this much smack now.. imagine when they DO get a winning season notched on their belt.



 

 11-04-08
 
I can see the brewery from my house.

 

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Posted Tuesday, May 06, 2008 4:28 PM




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huffdaddy52 (5/6/2008)
For as bad as you guys make Charley Casserly out to be, didn't he draft your best players?

Such as Mario Williams, Demeco Ryans, Dunta Robinson, and Andre Johnson?

For being in year 3 of the current regime, the Texans are still pretty thin at a lot of positions...

It's funny, when Gary Kubiak showed up that's when we started drafting well.......so I give Kubiak credit for Mario. Kubiak was a first year OFFENSIVE head coach and could have had any offensive talent in the draft for his system....but instead elected to go defense.......same thing with DeMeco, Kubiak elected to go defense again. Charley Casserly was a dead duck during that draft and everybody knew it....he really had no say so.

So that leaves Andre Johnson (no brainer) Dunta Robinson (big need, no brainer).

Out of four drafts he got us two good players and one was a top 3 pick beast WR (no brainer).......that's not exactly nailing down talent in the draft

Oops my bad, I'll be fair and include Domanick Davis, that guy was legit and before injury one of the best young backs in the league.

Now let's look at the players drafted since Kubiak showed up

In only two drafts (half the drafts of C.C.)

Mario Williams

DeMeco Ryans

Eric Winston (3rd rounder)

Charles Spencer (3rd rounder - the dude was a monster before his injury, hope he makes it back)

Owen Daniels (one of the best TEs in the league.....4th rounder)

Amobi Okoye

Fred Bennett.

Speaking off Fred Bennett...here's a insider article. http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/insider/columns/story?columnist=joyner_kc&id=3374798&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnfl%2finsider%2fcolumns%2fstory%3fcolumnist%3djoyner_kc%26id%3d3374798

As was the case with the receivers, this metric review measures medium (11-19 yards), deep (20-29 yards) and bomb (30-plus yards) pass attempts on a yards-per-attempt basis. Because cornerbacks tend to see fewer passes than wide receivers, I lowered the qualifying-attempt mark to 24. The yardage totals once again include "pass in the air" penalty attempts and yards (i.e., pass interference, defensive holding, illegal contact, etc.).

Now that we have the rules out of the way, here are the top 10 vertical cornerbacks from 2007:

Player Team Vert Att Vert Yds Vert YPA
Fred Bennett Houston 24 67 2.8
Quentin Jammer San Diego 35 159 4.5
Deshea Townsend Pittsburgh 35 178 5.1
Charles Tillman Chicago 34 199 5.9
Fred Smoot Washington 32 197 6.2
Terrence McGee Buffalo 44 271 6.2
Eric Wright Cleveland 46 300 6.5
Antonio Cromartie San Diego 29 202 7.0
Sheldon Brown Philadelphia 40 279 7.0
Will Allen Miami 30 211 7.0

Fred Bennett might be the best young cornerback in the NFL. He not only posted a phenomenally low vertical YPA but also gave up only six completions in those 24 attempts, none of which were at the deep or bomb level. Bennett's overall YPA of 4.7 was third-best among cornerbacks last season, which is another reason I think he might be only one full season as a starter away from being a serious Pro Bowl candidate.

Charlie with Dom Capers was the worst GM in the league......I'm not even going to get into the horrible FA signings or trades that he pulled off.



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Posted Tuesday, May 06, 2008 4:49 PM




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When you compare stadium size to size of market, the whole tarp thing is pretty weak. Jacksonville built a larger stadium than they should have because of other venues here, ie. Gator Bowl, Florida/Georgia, etc. We do better than most teams in the league, based on percentage of population. But I digress.......

You guys do have an ascending team and I believe you will turn some heads this year. If your drafted players work for you, why bother with what another team's fan says.

Finally, you guys have the hottest cheerleaders in the game. Isn't that enough? 



Don't Take Life Too Seriously

 

 

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Posted Tuesday, May 06, 2008 4:53 PM




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Shouldn't your draft picks be good when you draft in the top ten almost every year?

I mean c'mon.



 

 11-04-08
 
I can see the brewery from my house.

 

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Posted Tuesday, May 06, 2008 4:59 PM


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08 Fear Hussein 08 (5/6/2008)
Shouldn't your draft picks be good when you draft in the top ten almost every year?

I mean c'mon.


There in lies what exactly we are talking about. The difference between the old regime and the new. Try reading the whole thread next time.
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Posted Tuesday, May 06, 2008 5:03 PM




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I don't care about either regime.. when you contiuously pick in the top ten you are going to have strong classes.. We don't need them listed to see.

How high are yall trying to get next year? Top 5?



 

 11-04-08
 
I can see the brewery from my house.

 

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Posted Tuesday, May 06, 2008 5:12 PM




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huffdaddy52 (5/6/2008)
I disgree on the positions you stated as the only glaring needs (I could be wrong though b/c you know your team better than I do )


Other than Demeco, are your other LB's long term fixtures?

No doubt DeMeco is the anchor, but Houston added more young talent and speed to put around him. They still have Morlon Greenwood who was very solid last season, added depth in Bentley (brought over from Seattle by Ray Rhodes) and Chaun Thompson, and they want to get Zach Diles on the field more (Kubiak says he wished he played him more last season)

The guy who's probably going to make the biggest impact in this group however is Xavier Adibi, Kubiak is pretty high on this kid........he sounds alot like DeMeco

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/specials/draft/2008/video/?c=School&p=215872&s=3030752&i=241652

He just makes plays...http://youtube.com/watch?v=vGR4tSHxKz0&feature=related

huffdaddy52 (5/6/2008)
Is Jones or Walters the clear cut #2 WR opposite Andre Johnson?

Don't sleep on Kevin Walter.....he's a lengthy white guy that just gets open....Ed McCaffrey like, the dude had 800 yards receiving in his first year starting.

Jacoby Jones can push for more playing time and with Andre Davis......this is one of our deepest positions and a strength on this team.


huffdaddy52 (5/6/2008)
The O-line is completely set in your eyes??

Houston traded away their 6th round pick for a young center (Chris Myers) who started last season for the Broncos (so he already knows the system) due to injury and did really well.......He's only 26 and Bronco fans were pissed Mike Shannahan traded him away for just a sixth.

If Charles Spencer can return and lock down the guard spot Houston is actually going to have a good line this year.

Also don't forget Alex Gibbs, Gibbs always puts a good line on the field so he is really going to help out on the Oline.



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Posted Tuesday, May 06, 2008 5:13 PM




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08 Fear Hussein 08 (5/6/2008)
I don't care about either regime.. when you contiuously pick in the top ten you are going to have strong classes.. We don't need them listed to see.

How high are yall trying to get next year? Top 5?

Shouldn't your draft picks be good when you draft in the top ten almost every year?

I mean c'mon.

Your smack is extremely weak. Almost all the players I listed weren't even 1st rounders dummy.

I mean c'mon...



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Posted Tuesday, May 06, 2008 5:28 PM




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jagutopia (5/6/2008)
Finally, you guys have the hottest cheerleaders in the game. Isn't that enough? 

http://www.houstontexans.com/tv/index.asp?mm_file_id=2274&play_clip=Y

Got good new young crop coming in too.



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Posted Tuesday, May 06, 2008 5:36 PM


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Carr Bombed (5/6/2008)
jagutopia (5/6/2008)
Finally, you guys have the hottest cheerleaders in the game. Isn't that enough?


http://www.houstontexans.com/tv/index.asp?mm_file_id=2274&play_clip=Y

Got good new young crop coming in too.



How hot is that blonde in the top video. I mean...cmon.
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