| | Posted Thursday, April 24, 2008 4:11 PM | |
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| | I don't really like the pick of Antoine Cason and think they could go with Felix Jones. However, I can see Brian Williams being nudged out of town after this year unless he plays lights out. Just a hunch. I would like the Felix Jones pick better, but I think the Jags would go with Cason first for some reason. I wonder if they would take SS Tyrell Johnson in the first in this scenario? Probably not, but he is moving up the board pretty fast. 1. Mia- OT Jake Long 2. Stl- DE Chris Long 3. Atl- DT Glenn Dorsey 4. Oak- DE V. Gholston 5. K.C- QB Matt Ryan 6. NYJ- RB Darren McFadden 7. N.E- LB Keith Rivers 8. Bal- OT Ryan Clady 9. Cin- DT Sedrick Ellis 10. N.O- RB Jonathan Stewart 11. Buf- CB D. R-Cromartie 12. Den- RB Rashard Mendenhall 13. Car- DE Derrick Harvey 14. Chi- OG Branden Albert 15. Det- OT Jeff Otah 16. Ari- CB Leodis McKelvin 17. K.C- OT Chris Williams 18. Hou- S Kenny Phillips 19. Phi- WR Devin Thomas 20. Tam- CB Mike Jenkins 21. Was- DE Phillip Merling 22. Dal- WR Limas Sweed 23. Pit- OT Gosder Cherilus 24. Ten- DE Calais Campbell 25. Sea- WR Desean Jackson 26. Jac- CB Antoine Cason 27. Bal- QB Brian Brohm ***from San Diego 28. Dal- RB Felix Jones 29. S.F- DT Kentwan Balmer 30. G.B- CB Aqib Talib 31. NYG- LB Jerod Mayo Jags picks would be: 1. (26) CB Antoine Cason 2. (58) DE Jason Jones 3. (71) RB Jamal Charles 3. (89) S Thomas Decoud I think we don't draft DT and OL early this year.
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| | | Posted Thursday, April 24, 2008 4:15 PM | |
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| | I think Felix Jones goes ahead of us. Either Dallas at 22, Tennessee at 24, or Seattle at 25. I wouldn't be against drafting him, though.
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| | | Posted Thursday, April 24, 2008 4:16 PM | |
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| Its Meier Time (4/24/2008)
I think Felix Jones goes ahead of us. Either Dallas at 22, Tennessee at 24, or Seattle at 25. I wouldn't be against drafting him, though. Yeah, you may be right. I can see Dallas grabbing him first since they worked out the Pacman deal now.
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| | | Posted Thursday, April 24, 2008 4:21 PM | |
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| jagabc6893 (4/24/2008)
I don't really like the pick of Antoine Cason and think they could go with Felix Jones. However, I can see Brian Williams being nudged out of town after this year unless he plays lights out. Just a hunch. I would like the Felix Jones pick better, but I think the Jags would go with Cason first for some reason. I wonder if they would take SS Tyrell Johnson in the first in this scenario? Probably not, but he is moving up the board pretty fast. 1. Mia- OT Jake Long 2. Stl- DE Chris Long 3. Atl- DT Glenn Dorsey 4. Oak- DE V. Gholston 5. K.C- QB Matt Ryan 6. NYJ- RB Darren McFadden 7. N.E- LB Keith Rivers 8. Bal- OT Ryan Clady 9. Cin- DT Sedrick Ellis 10. N.O- RB Jonathan Stewart 11. Buf- CB D. R-Cromartie 12. Den- RB Rashard Mendenhall 13. Car- DE Derrick Harvey 14. Chi- OG Branden Albert 15. Det- OT Jeff Otah 16. Ari- CB Leodis McKelvin 17. K.C- OT Chris Williams 18. Hou- S Kenny Phillips 19. Phi- WR Devin Thomas 20. Tam- CB Mike Jenkins 21. Was- DE Phillip Merling 22. Dal- WR Limas Sweed Felix Jones 23. Pit- OT Gosder Cherilus Quentin Groves 24. Ten- DE Calais Campbell Limas Sweed 25. Sea- WR Desean Jackson Kentwan Balmer 26. Jac- CB Antoine Cason Calais Campbell 27. Bal- QB Brian Brohm ***from San Diego Gosder Cherilus 28. Dal- RB Felix Jones Jerod Mayo 29. S.F- DT Kentwan Balmer Antoine Cason 30. G.B- CB Aqib Talib 31. NYG- LB Jerod Mayo Tyrell Johnson Based purely on ranking I think the Jags would take Felix Jones over Antoine Cason, which is why the Cowboys will pick him at 22 instead of potentially losing him prior to Pick 28. Rd 1 (26): Calais Campbell - DE - Miami Rd 2 (58): Anthony Collins - OLT - Kansas Rd 3 (71): DaJuan Morgan - SS - N.C. State Rd 3 (89): Phillip Wheeler - LB - Ga. Tech Rd 4 (125): Brian Johnston - DE - Gardner Webb Rd 5 (143): Jack Ikegwuonu - CB - Wisconsin Rd 5 (158): Dennis Dixon - QB - Oregon Rd 5 (159): Gary Barnidge - TE - Louisville |
| | | Posted Thursday, April 24, 2008 5:18 PM | |
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| Stigma (4/24/2008)
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I don't really like the pick of Antoine Cason and think they could go with Felix Jones. However, I can see Brian Williams being nudged out of town after this year unless he plays lights out. Just a hunch. I would like the Felix Jones pick better, but I think the Jags would go with Cason first for some reason. I wonder if they would take SS Tyrell Johnson in the first in this scenario? Probably not, but he is moving up the board pretty fast. 1. Mia- OT Jake Long 2. Stl- DE Chris Long 3. Atl- DT Glenn Dorsey 4. Oak- DE V. Gholston 5. K.C- QB Matt Ryan 6. NYJ- RB Darren McFadden 7. N.E- LB Keith Rivers 8. Bal- OT Ryan Clady 9. Cin- DT Sedrick Ellis 10. N.O- RB Jonathan Stewart 11. Buf- CB D. R-Cromartie 12. Den- RB Rashard Mendenhall 13. Car- DE Derrick Harvey 14. Chi- OG Branden Albert 15. Det- OT Jeff Otah 16. Ari- CB Leodis McKelvin 17. K.C- OT Chris Williams 18. Hou- S Kenny Phillips 19. Phi- WR Devin Thomas 20. Tam- CB Mike Jenkins 21. Was- DE Phillip Merling 22. Dal- WR Limas Sweed Felix Jones 23. Pit- OT Gosder Cherilus Quentin Groves 24. Ten- DE Calais Campbell Limas Sweed 25. Sea- WR Desean Jackson Kentwan Balmer 26. Jac- CB Antoine Cason Calais Campbell 27. Bal- QB Brian Brohm ***from San Diego Gosder Cherilus 28. Dal- RB Felix Jones Jerod Mayo 29. S.F- DT Kentwan Balmer Antoine Cason 30. G.B- CB Aqib Talib 31. NYG- LB Jerod Mayo Tyrell Johnson Based purely on ranking I think the Jags would take Felix Jones over Antoine Cason, which is why the Cowboys will pick him at 22 instead of potentially losing him prior to Pick 28. Rd 1 (26): Calais Campbell - DE - Miami Rd 2 (58): Anthony Collins - OLT - Kansas Rd 3 (71): DaJuan Morgan - SS - N.C. State Rd 3 (89): Phillip Wheeler - LB - Ga. Tech Rd 4 (125): Brian Johnston - DE - Gardner Webb Rd 5 (143): Jack Ikegwuonu - CB - Wisconsin Rd 5 (158): Dennis Dixon - QB - Oregon Rd 5 (159): Gary Barnidge - TE - Louisville I doubt Dallas would take Jerod Mayo when they just signed Thomas from Miami and they are already stacked at LB. As far as the Jags go, we might go with Cherilus over Campbell in that scenario. Why would we take Phillip Wheeler in the 3rd round when we could take Jerod Mayo in the first? Regardless, I don't think we draft a LB in the first 4 rounds with Mike Peterson staying this year, but you never know. I think you know Johnston probably won't be left at pick #125 at this point....wishful thinking. Ikegwuonu and Dixon?? Two more guys with knee injuries....no thanks.
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| | | Posted Thursday, April 24, 2008 5:19 PM | |
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| DaJuan Morgan is a player I really like. But I think he is a prototypical FS and we don't have any need there except maybe to add some depth.
So my question is: Stigma, do you think there is any chance he could make a switch to SS and be effective there? |
| | | Posted Thursday, April 24, 2008 5:37 PM | |
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| PAJagfan27 (4/24/2008) DaJuan Morgan is a player I really like. But I think he is a prototypical FS and we don't have any need there except maybe to add some depth.
So my question is: Stigma, do you think there is any chance he could make a switch to SS and be effective there?Regarding Phillip Wheeler check out his sack totals: 2005 - 4 sacks; 2006 - 9 sacks; 2007 - 6 sacks These totals are as good as any of the DEs in this draft. He is 6'2" 250 Lbs which makes him a DPR that just happens to be able to play all three LB spots. Since the Jags are going to stress blitzing the QB from the LB spot, why not take the best Blitz LB in this draft? Regarding DaJuan Morgan check out his tackles: 2006 - 82 TT / 53 Solo Tackles - 2 Int 2007 - 97 TT / 73 Solo Tackles - 3 Int These days SS must be able to defend the pass and still come up and make tackles. In a Cover - 2 Defense the Jags split the field in half, so the SS better be part FS just to survive. At 6'1" 205 Lbs, he is not a small DB. The days of the Donovan Darius SS type are gone from the Jags roster. As far as taking two players that the Jags can put on the shelf for the 2008 season, it makes sense when you look at how deep this roster truly is. Jack Ikegwuonu is a Rd 1 talent that is the type of CB that JDR likes. He is good in pass defense and he is not afraid to come up and defend the run. Regarding Dennis Dixon, this guy if he was not injured might have been a Rd 2 pick in this draft and would most likely be the 5th QB in this draft. Regarding Jerod Mayo, he is the classic inside LB for a 3-4 defense, who runs a 4.54/40 and can drop back in coverage. Akin Ayodele is on his way out of Dallas and Thomas is in the last hurrah of his career. Mayo might even beat out Thomas and certainly would start in 2009 over Thomas. Thomas is OLD and SLOW and soon will be let go. |
| | | Posted Thursday, April 24, 2008 5:40 PM | |
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| Scouts inc. says...
Weaknesses: Is thickly built but doesn't play as strong as his measurables indicate. Can be overaggressive and overruns holes. Does not like to take on blocks and will get out of position at times running around them...
He's gonna have to be more aggressive to play DE.
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| | | Posted Thursday, April 24, 2008 5:43 PM | |
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| Big John (4/24/2008) Scouts inc. says...
Weaknesses: Is thickly built but doesn't play as strong as his measurables indicate. Can be overaggressive and overruns holes. Does not like to take on blocks and will get out of position at times running around them...
He's gonna have to be more aggressive to play DE.Who are you talking about? If you are talking about Phillip Wheeler, then you must know that he must be protected by a Big Dline to be an effective Blitz LB. Funny thing is that the Jags could have a pretty big DLine and behind such a line, Wheeler could thrive. |
| | | Posted Thursday, April 24, 2008 5:46 PM | |
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| Stigma (4/24/2008)
Big John (4/24/2008) Scouts inc. says...
Weaknesses: Is thickly built but doesn't play as strong as his measurables indicate. Can be overaggressive and overruns holes. Does not like to take on blocks and will get out of position at times running around them...
He's gonna have to be more aggressive to play DE.
Who are you talking about?
If you are talking about PhillipWheeler, then you must know that he must be protected by a Big Dline to be an effective Blitz LB. Funny thing is that the Jags could have a pretty big DLine and behind such a line, Wheeler could thrive.
It's about Wheeler. I thought you were talking about him being at DE, not blitzing. He's an amazing blitzer.
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