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Posted Wednesday, April 16, 2008 3:03 AM




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In almost every mock draft I've seen over the last two weeks, if I was making the pick I'd take Phillips at the Jags spot. I still hope someone will fall, but if things go as most experts seem to expect Phillips could well be the best value available.



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Post #509612
Posted Wednesday, April 16, 2008 8:36 AM


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Given the players who will probably fall to the Jags, Phillips is the most logical pick.  If, however, the coaching staff plans to move Williams to S, then the most logical pick becomes a CB.

I'm all for drafting Phillips.

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Posted Wednesday, April 16, 2008 8:57 AM




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I'd love to have Kenny Phillips ONLY IF we make a draft day trade for Jason Taylor.



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Posted Wednesday, April 16, 2008 11:06 AM




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I'm fairly confident that one of the DE's will be there.  Either Groves, Campbell or Merling.  I think of those three, the only one the staff chooses Phillips over is Groves...and that's probably 50/50.  Regardless of what's been stated, the staff still speaks highly of Sensabaugh and he's been productive in the action he's seen.  I just don't think Phillips is the guy unless the other options are limited. 

If Phillips IS the guy, I think what that may facilitate is the eventual move to CB for Nelson (which I'd be conflicted about).  If you pick Phillips, you'll want to get him on the field, but I really don't know that he'd be an effective blitzer in Williams' scheme.  He'll be a stud in centerfield, but we have that. 



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Posted Wednesday, April 16, 2008 7:06 PM




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maize n blue (4/16/2008)
I'm fairly confident that one of the DE's will be there.  Either Groves, Campbell or Merling.  I think of those three, the only one the staff chooses Phillips over is Groves...and that's probably 50/50.  Regardless of what's been stated, the staff still speaks highly of Sensabaugh and he's been productive in the action he's seen.  I just don't think Phillips is the guy unless the other options are limited. 

If Phillips IS the guy, I think what that may facilitate is the eventual move to CB for Nelson (which I'd be conflicted about).  If you pick Phillips, you'll want to get him on the field, but I really don't know that he'd be an effective blitzer in Williams' scheme.  He'll be a stud in centerfield, but we have that. 

I personally would only take Merling over Phillips.  I am just not sold on Campbell, and I am afraid that Groves is just another DPR.  I think Merling is the real deal and would be a steal if he slipped that far.  If he didn't I would take Phillips.  I think having Phillips and Nelson as your safetys could have you set at that position for a decade.



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Posted Thursday, April 17, 2008 11:38 PM




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If I'm sitting at the draft and see Phillips and Groves on the board at the same time, it might be tough to decide who the Jaguars should draft. Maybe it's a blessing in disguise that the first round pick won't be expected to instantaneously become a starter but rather eased into the role like an OT that has some time to get bigger physically and learn the playbook while being asked to backup one of the better offensive lines in the league, boasting 5 returning starters from the majority of last year.

Still, if you see a safety from the U still around at 26 I think it would be a good pick not only from the past track record established by previous UM safeties but from a standpoint of a having a defensive coordinator that can get the most out of two ballhawking safeties in Greg Williams.





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Posted Saturday, April 19, 2008 4:19 PM




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I'm warming to the idea of drafting Kenny P quite a lot. Most of the reviews I have seen about him say he's smart and can organise the secondary, which seemed a real problem last season with Reggie Nelson especially. He also looks pretty good up in the box tackling RB's, which we were missing last season without DD.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/story;jsessionid=62C71381AEF9657A3A529040FC7AA151?id=09000d5d807dc13c&template=with-video&confirm=true

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/specials/draft/2008/video/?c=Mock%20Draft&p=215913&s=3030262&i=232309

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Posted Sunday, April 20, 2008 1:02 AM


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I personally doon't think that phillips offers enouhg value in the first round to be the jaguars selection.

For a safety in the first round you want someone who has a corner back skill set that can play the football in the air, and cause turnovers.  Take a reggie nelson for example.  he is a guy who is still talked about as a potential corner back and ran in the mid to sub 4.4's.  He has excellent ball skills and causes turnovers.

I don't know that you are going to get that out of any strong safety let alone someone at 26.  the problem with the safety position in the first round is that outside of the description above you can generally find the guys anywhere. If yiou draft a justin king you can let brian williams and gerald sensabaugh compete for the starting SS job and then the looser can be the nickel or dime back depending on how well a rookie corner does.  always take the corner. 



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Posted Sunday, April 20, 2008 1:27 AM




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If you draft Phillips, you're preparing for the evolution of the NFL. Spread offenses are going to infect it, the Patriots have started it evolving from what the Colts did/do. Drafting a guy like Phillips who has the ability to play both safety positions and nickel corner gives you amazing flexibility in formations when facing teams like this.

You've got Williams, Florence, and Mathis to play corner. You slide Williams or Florence inside to nickel. Then, you've got Sensabaugh and Phillips who can play both safety positions and are skilled enough to play nickel/dime corner. You also have Nelson who has great range at FS and could easily play nickel/dime corner. You can run formations which feature all 6 on the field. Williams at RCB, Mathis at LCB, Florence at NCB, Nelson at DCB, Sensabaugh at FS, and Phillips at SS.

Maybe I'm thinking too much and diving into Madden-esque territory here, but that's how I see it.




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Posted Sunday, April 20, 2008 5:04 AM


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Yes, it used to be that teams only passed when they had to.  That means 80-90% of the plays were runs.  Now a lot of teams strive for that 50% run and 50% pass.
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