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Posted Tuesday, April 01, 2008 4:48 PM




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Would you guys be upset with these first 4 picks for the Jags?

1. S Kenny Phillips, Miami, 6-2, 212, 4.55- with the top 4 DE's gone and so many questions about the remaining guys, the Jags grab Phillips, who is regarded as the best safety in the draft.  This pick provides the Jags with a potential starter at Strong Safety, and at the very least some much needed depth at both Safety positions.

2. DE Jason Jones, Eastern Mich, 6-5, 273, 4.74-  Del Rio stated the Jags would not reach in the first round for a DE.  That could be a hint.  Jason Jones may not start immediately, but he will add some much needed pressure on the QB and has lots of upside.  I think the Jags also draft another DE or trade for one from another team before the season starts. 

3.  OT Anthony Collins, Kansas, 6-5, 317- drafted to compete with Khaliff Barnes at LT and to add overall depth to OL.  This pick could come in the 2nd round if Jason Jones is not available.

3. TE John Carlson, Notre Dame, 6-5, 255, 4.75- the Jags are surprised when this highly rated TE drops this far in the draft.  They snatch him up as an upgrade to Wrighster, who may still be recovering from his knee injury.  Marcedes Lewis, John Carlson and Greg Estandia.. looks like a great trio at TE. 



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Posted Tuesday, April 01, 2008 6:45 PM


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Even on vacation a fan can still be thinking about the college draft. Here is my latest offering:

Rd 1(26): Brian Brohm - QB - Louisville

Jags make sure they don't overpay David Garrard by drafting some serious competition for him in 2010.

Rd 2(58): Red Bryant - DT - Texas A&M

Space-eater that will help replace Marcus Stroud in the DT rotation.

Rd 3(71): Jeremy Thompson - DE - Wake Forest

Speed rusher that is just beginning to come into his own.

Rd 3(89): Eric Young - OLT - Tennessee

Jags take a player that many think is better suited to be an OLG, but is a dominant run-blocker that can run downfield.

Rd 4(125): Gary Guyton - OLB - Ga. Tech

SLB/Blitz LB that will push Clint Ingram.

Rd 5(143): Keenan Burton - WR/PR - Kentucky

Solid WR who is not afraid to go over the middle and block, but will be tried as a punt returner.

Rd 5(158): Jack Ikegwuonu - CB - Wisconsin

A shut-down CB that will need to be shelved for the 2008 season recoverying from his 2007 ACL injury.

Rd 5(159): Gary Barnidge - TE - Louisville

Pass catching TE that will compete for 3rd TE spot on roster.

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Posted Tuesday, April 01, 2008 9:04 PM




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1 (26). Quentin Groves OLB/DE Auburn 6'3 259- the "real deal" edge rusher that Del Rio has hoped to have with picks like Cordova, Smith and Hawkins.

2 (58). Red Bryant DT Tx A&M 6'4 318- rotational big body to replace Stroud.

3 (71). Tyrell Johnson SS/FS Ark St 6'0 207- 4.4 speed, good ball skills, and broke all-time conference record for tackles.

3 (89). Josh Johnson QB San Diego 6'3 213- 43 TD against 1 interception last season, along with 4.5 speed...great developmental guy.

4 (125). Jamar Adams SS Michigan 6'2 212- great depth at safety and a great hitter for special teams.

5 (143). Frank Okam DT Texas 6'5 347- rotational scheme would fit him well for needed breathers. Potential Grady Jackson with development.

5 (158). Allen Patrick RB Oklahoma 6'1 198- solid back that should provide an upgrade to DD Terry.

5 (159). Tommy Blake DE TCU 6'3 272- gamble due to depression and anxiety disorder; however, was incredible during his junior year playing at a lighter weight. 

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Posted Tuesday, April 01, 2008 10:32 PM


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Stigma (4/1/2008)
Even on vacation a fan can still be thinking about the college draft. Here is my latest offering:

Rd 1(26): Brian Brohm - QB - Louisville

Jags make sure they don't overpay David Garrard by drafting some serious competition for him in 2010.

Rd 2(58): Red Bryant - DT - Texas A&M

Space-eater that will help replace Marcus Stroud in the DT rotation.

Rd 3(71): Jeremy Thompson - DE - Wake Forest

Speed rusher that is just beginning to come into his own.

Rd 3(89): Eric Young - OLT - Tennessee

Jags take a player that many think is better suited to be an OLG, but is a dominant run-blocker that can run downfield.

Rd 4(125): Gary Guyton - OLB - Ga. Tech

SLB/Blitz LB that will push Clint Ingram.

Rd 5(143): Keenan Burton - WR/PR - Kentucky

Solid WR who is not afraid to go over the middle and block, but will be tried as a punt returner.

Rd 5(158): Jack Ikegwuonu - CB - Wisconsin

A shut-down CB that will need to be shelved for the 2008 season recoverying from his 2007 ACL injury.

Rd 5(159): Gary Barnidge - TE - Louisville

Pass catching TE that will compete for 3rd TE spot on roster.

I may disagree on this issue, but at least you are consistent.  it takes balls to stick with a position like this when DG is coming off a good year. 

let me ask you this stigma, do you think that brohm is really a better prospect than hene?  from what i understand hene has the better deep arm and would probably fit better with the TOYS.  In all honesty even if they signed DG to a 100 million dollar contract i think that hene falling where he will and in my oppinion really being a top ten talent offer tremendous value. 



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Posted Tuesday, April 01, 2008 11:16 PM


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I firmly believe that Brohm is a Franchise QB that would have been a Top 10 pick last year. Brohm can make all throws and his arm is as big or bigger than anyone in this draft.

If he is available when the Jags select at Pick 26, then he will be the BAP and worthy of the selection.

The Salary Cap may be over and done with in two years and when that happens the Jags can't be on the hook for big dollars on anybody. The Jags are going to have to play with a cheap roster and rely on the draft, that is if the draft even survives the next CBA.

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Posted Wednesday, April 02, 2008 7:39 AM


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Yes, that would work, jagabc.  I'm thinking about JDR's press conference where he said not only are we going to draft a DE, but that we are going to draft a DT somewhere down the road for depth.  I just don't see us as needing a DT for depth.  If we need a DT, it's as a starter.  Maybe we will get another DT in round 5, but I tend to think that it will be no later than our 1st choice in round 3.  If Balmer slides to 26 as it looks like he may, then he could be the Jags first round selection.  I would feel better, though, with Bryant or Rubin in round 2.

I just don't feel good about drafting at 26.  Maybe if Atlanta doesn't get their QB in round 1, we could trade our 1 and 4 for two of their 2's.  Does that make sense on the trade value chart?  I haven't looked it up.  Both teams would gain value.

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Posted Wednesday, April 02, 2008 10:12 AM




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pcjagfan1146 (4/2/2008)
Yes, that would work, jagabc. I'm thinking about JDR's press conference where he said not only are we going to draft a DE, but that we are going to draft a DT somewhere down the road for depth. I just don't see us as needing a DT for depth. If we need a DT, it's as a starter. Maybe we will get another DT in round 5, but I tend to think that it will be no later than our 1st choice in round 3. If Balmer slides to 26 as it looks like he may, then he could be the Jags first round selection. I would feel better, though, with Bryant or Rubin in round 2.

I just don't feel good about drafting at 26. Maybe if Atlanta doesn't get their QB in round 1, we could trade our 1 and 4 for two of their 2's. Does that make sense on the trade value chart? I haven't looked it up. Both teams would gain value.


I don't know if it makes sense on the trade value chart, but I just don't think Atlanta would do that. They can probably get either Brohm, Henne or Flacco with their first pick in round 2. They need lots of players in different positions, so I don't see them giving up any early draft picks. You have to remember they traded DeAngelo Hall, so they will have to draft a CB early. They could get a DT, QB, CB, OT in the first 2 rounds by using all their current picks.

As far as a DT for us, I think we draft one later in the draft, not early. We will already have a pretty good four man rotation with Henderson, Meier, McDaniel and Landri. Why draft a guy early who would probably be #5?




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Posted Wednesday, April 02, 2008 10:20 AM




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Stigma (4/1/2008)
Even on vacation a fan can still be thinking about the college draft. Here is my latest offering:

Rd 1(26): Brian Brohm - QB - Louisville

Jags make sure they don't overpay David Garrard by drafting some serious competition for him in 2010.

Rd 2(58): Red Bryant - DT - Texas A&M

Space-eater that will help replace Marcus Stroud in the DT rotation.

Rd 3(71): Jeremy Thompson - DE - Wake Forest

Speed rusher that is just beginning to come into his own.

Rd 3(89): Eric Young - OLT - Tennessee

Jags take a player that many think is better suited to be an OLG, but is a dominant run-blocker that can run downfield.

Rd 4(125): Gary Guyton - OLB - Ga. Tech

SLB/Blitz LB that will push Clint Ingram.

Rd 5(143): Keenan Burton - WR/PR - Kentucky

Solid WR who is not afraid to go over the middle and block, but will be tried as a punt returner.

Rd 5(158): Jack Ikegwuonu - CB - Wisconsin

A shut-down CB that will need to be shelved for the 2008 season recoverying from his 2007 ACL injury.

Rd 5(159): Gary Barnidge - TE - Louisville

Pass catching TE that will compete for 3rd TE spot on roster.


I have been wondering were you were, Stigma. I think we need to draft a safety in there some where. Maybe even two. I mean which position do we have better depth at right now? DT or Safety? If Phillips and Brohm are available, I think we go with Phillips. Now if Phillips is gone, and the top 4 DE's are gone, Brohm is an outside possibility as BAP. I mentioned Brohm last month as our first round pick if he was there. But after I thought about it, I changed my mind. What kind of message would that send to Garrard and the fans who are just starting to really embrace him as the leader of the team. Not a good one.




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Posted Wednesday, April 02, 2008 10:29 AM




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ATLjag (4/1/2008)
1 (26). Quentin Groves OLB/DE Auburn 6'3 259- the "real deal" edge rusher that Del Rio has hoped to have with picks like Cordova, Smith and Hawkins.

2 (58). Red Bryant DT Tx A&M 6'4 318- rotational big body to replace Stroud.

3 (71). Tyrell JohnsonSS/FS Ark St 6'0 207- 4.4 speed, good ball skills, and broke all-time conference record for tackles.

3 (89). Josh Johnson QB San Diego 6'3 213- 43 TD against 1 interception last season, along with 4.5 speed...great developmental guy.

4 (125). Jamar Adams SS Michigan 6'2 212- great depth at safety and a great hitter for special teams.

5 (143). Frank Okam DT Texas 6'5 347-rotational scheme would fit him well for needed breathers.Potential Grady Jackson with development.

5 (158). Allen Patrick RB Oklahoma 6'1 198- solid back that should provide an upgrade to DD Terry.

5 (159). Tommy Blake DE TCU 6'3 272- gamble due to depression and anxiety disorder; however, was incredible during his junior year playing at a lighter weight.


Pretty nice mock, but I don't like Groves or Blake. Groves- I think the DPR experiment is over in Jax. At least I hope it is. Blake- even Shack Harris is smart enough not to draft a nut case. I'm sorry, I mean a guy with mental issues. I like the rest of the picks.




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Posted Thursday, April 03, 2008 6:25 PM




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If the Dolphins take DE Chris Long in the first round and we don't take a DE, I am starting to wonder if we trade our 2nd round pick to Miami for Jason Taylor.  I would not be that upset if that were to happen.  If we take a safety (Phillips) in the 1st and then get Taylor with the trade in the 2nd, the rest of the draft would be smooth sailing and filled with lots of BAPs.  That would be sweet.



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