| | Posted Wednesday, February 13, 2008 2:30 PM | |
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| "If you want me to narrow it down to one choice each round it would probably be:
1st: S Griffin (as I told you all he WILL be the best Safety to emerge from this draft.
2nd: DE Quentin Moses
3a: OG Manuel Ramirez 3b: Trent Edwards 4a: Zak DeOssie 4b: Aundrae Allison" Looking now at picks: S Michael Griffin - 54 Tackles (41 solo) 3 Int's 1 FF, 7 PDs S Reggie Nelson - 62 Tackles (57 solo) 1 sack, 5 Int's, 1 FF, 11 PDs DE Quentin Moses - 8 Tackles (7 solo) 1.5 sacks: cut twice LB Justin Durant - 49 Tackles (40 solo) 1 sack, 1 Int, 2 PDs
OG Manuel Ramirez - DNP, Backup LG for Lions QB Trent Edwards - 1,630 Yards, 7 TDs, 8 Ints, 70.4 Rating (Shows promise) WR Mike Walker - DNP, IR LB Zak DeOssie - 6 Solo Tackles WR Aundrae Allison - 8 Receptions 122 Yards, 1 KR Touchdown P Adam Podlesh - 41.6 Punt Average, 14 in20, 6 in10, 2 TB OLB Brian Smith - DNP, IR Bolded are the guys our front office drafted, obviously. We got Podlesh and Landri by not taking Trent Edwards. "I;m mad because none of these players drafted after Durant, other than maybe the punter, are going to amount to anything of relevance in this league.
Watch & see." AFC South QB Rankings 1. Manning 2. Schaub 3. Young 4. Leftwich Probably fine considering, but really what we know is Manning had another good year, Young had another bad year, Schaub was hurt a fair amount of the year, and Leftwich wasn't here. Donte Stallworth will be a GREAT signing! 46 receptions, 697 yards, (15.2 avg), 3 td's (6 years $33.1 Million dollars) Damon Huard will have a spectacular year. 2,257 Yards 11 Tds, 13 Ints, 76.8 rating, didn't end season as starter (Spectacular, might be over doing it)
Quinn Gray will be a better QB than Byron Leftwich. Could be true, not enough info. Byron Leftwich will get injured - TRUE Dennis Northcutt (5 years $17 million) - 44 receptions, 601 yards (13.7 avg), 4 TD's I am not going to throw down to much judgement, I was just providing as much facts as I could. Fact still remains we won't know about the draft selections for a couple more years (I am saving that PM)... but early indications have me extatic Mad Dog wasn't drafting for us...
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| | | Posted Wednesday, February 13, 2008 2:46 PM | |
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| Wow ... the Mitchell Report looks pretty mild compared to the HardCoreMoJagFan report
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| | | Posted Wednesday, February 13, 2008 3:33 PM | |
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| LOL.
Kudos to this man.
Oh man, Quentin Moses. Good lord I am glad people like you only exist behind a computer screen. |
| | | Posted Wednesday, February 13, 2008 3:36 PM | |
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| And what was the purpose of this thread? To just simply call out another poster? I am not here to stick up for TMD as he can do that himself I was just wondering? Does anyone else notice that the only people who want to start threads like this and the only ones who want to constantly bad mouth other’s picks or predictions are the ones that don’t have the stones to do it themselves. Now besides this let’s take a look at his picks again. Let’s start with the Griffen vs Nelson part…. It is easy to just cut and paste stats but did you take into consideration that Griffen didn’t get his first start until week 7? Where as Nelson was a starter from week 1? After becoming the starter these are his stats (46 tkls (54 incl Pos), 33 Solo tkls (39 incl Pos), 3 ints, 3 PDs, and 1 FF. – starting 11 games Nelson’s as a starter - 62 Tackles (57 solo) 1 sack, 5 Int's, 1 FF, 11 PDs – starting 18 games So in 7 more starts Nelson only registered 8 more total tackles, 2 more INTs, and 8 more PDs. Let’s take a look at their per game (started) average: Griffen: 4.91 tackles .27 INTs .27 PDs .09 FFs Nelson: 3.44 tackles .06 sacks .28 INTs .06 FFs .61 PDs Well I’ll be….Looking at it this way Nelson is the clear cut better FS at this point. Or NOT!!!! I too was a proponent of drafting Trent Edwards and should he become the QB of the future I would say that he was a WAY better pick than Mike Walker, unless Walker becomes the next Randy Moss. Obviously Durant was a way better pick than Moses. The picks of Podlesh and Brian Smith vs. AA and Zak DeOssie is still up in the air since it is hard to compare Punters to skill position players and Smith didn’t play at all. The Donte’ Stallworth prediction was obviously based on him playing more. His stats suffered a lot because he was not thrown too much, but hey we can say this one was wrong. As for the QB ratings of AFC south I would sat these are a wash since Lefty isn’t here anymore and I never saw an updated prediction from him including Garrard.. But if you want to hold him to it (and apparently you do since you posted it) he was actually right. Here are the final QB ratings for the year. Manning – 98.0 Schaub – 87.2 Young – 71.1 Lefty – 59.5 Of course Lefty didn’t even have enough passes to actually “qualify” for a QB rating per NFL.com The Damon Huard prediction was way off I would agree with. And I am still a little meh about the DN. But hey that is just me. So I would say with all things considered based on the “predictions” you posted that TMD made he was actually right more than wrong…. But you keep on peddling your anti-TMD agenda like most on this board. |
| | | Posted Wednesday, February 13, 2008 3:46 PM | |
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| Hey I didn't do anything except post his predictions, and then post whatever statistics were behind it? I gave the guy credit for several rights and left most open for interpretation?
It's people like you that automatically jump to conclusions that I was saying every statement he made was wrong, no where in the post did I maliciously attack the guy? I just took the quotes he had posted throughout the past off-season and PM'd myself and posted them along with statistics throughout the season behind him.I even so much as obliged that you cannot really ramp on the draft at this point because of the small amount of time between the draft and now. I don't know why you love the guy, but you jumped to his defense before even reading most of what I wrote... I put it out there for people's interpretation, not claiming win or loss anywhere. I put some variables to potentially sway people's thought's elsewhere...
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| | | Posted Wednesday, February 13, 2008 3:46 PM | |
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| Proving that the previous years darft grade was good or bad is really hard to do. You have to look back after more than 1 year.
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| | | Posted Wednesday, February 13, 2008 3:48 PM | |
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| | And your argument about Stallworth... Let's think about this for a minute, while it might have been based upon him playing more, the fact remains they paid that much money for a third wide receiver who didn't even put up great stats. Stallworth was in the most prolific passing offense in history. He was the third wide receiver and he was marginal at best? Remember what Stokely did as the third wide receiver in Indy during Manning's career season? You can say that argument was based upon the outcome, but the fact remains is the Patriots gave a ton of money to a guy who produced, but not at a very high level?
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| | | Posted Wednesday, February 13, 2008 3:51 PM | |
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| Jagwyer (2/13/2008) Provening that the previous years darft grade was good or bad is really hard to do. You have to look back after more than 1 year.This is true and why I am finally deleting all the other ones I saved except the draft one. I will save that a few more years. I will also start a new collection of predictions from people who get belligerent over them. I have no problem with people making their predictions, it's the people who get stupid and attack others and the front office relentlessly that I decide to hold onto. Obviously, TMD is the poster child of the above person, so that is how I decided he would be the one I would hold accountable all season. For everyone else, I guess I ask is basically this if you could have our draft or Mad Dog's draft at this point in time (first four rounds, so forget Landri) who would you take? All you have to do deuce is say you will take Mad Dog's draft and that will show you back him?
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| | | Posted Wednesday, February 13, 2008 3:51 PM | |
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| HAHAHAHA...YES!
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| | | Posted Wednesday, February 13, 2008 4:09 PM | |
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| HardcoreMoJagFan (2/13/2008)
"If you want me to narrow it down to one choice each round it would probably be:
1st: S Griffin (as I told you all he WILL be the best Safety to emerge from this draft.
2nd: DE Quentin Moses
3a: OG Manuel Ramirez 3b: Trent Edwards 4a: Zak DeOssie 4b: Aundrae Allison" Looking now at picks: S Michael Griffin - 54 Tackles (41 solo) 3 Int's 1 FF, 7 PDs S Reggie Nelson - 62 Tackles (57 solo) 1 sack, 5 Int's, 1 FF, 11 PDs DE Quentin Moses - 8 Tackles (7 solo) 1.5 sacks: cut twice LB Justin Durant - 49 Tackles (40 solo) 1 sack, 1 Int, 2 PDs
OG Manuel Ramirez - DNP, Backup LG for Lions QB Trent Edwards - 1,630 Yards, 7 TDs, 8 Ints, 70.4 Rating (Shows promise) WR Mike Walker - DNP, IR LB Zak DeOssie - 6 Solo Tackles WR Aundrae Allison - 8 Receptions 122 Yards, 1 KR Touchdown P Adam Podlesh - 41.6 Punt Average, 14 in20, 6 in10, 2 TB OLB Brian Smith - DNP, IR Bolded are the guys our front office drafted, obviously. We got Podlesh and Landri by not taking Trent Edwards. "I;m mad because none of these players drafted after Durant, other than maybe the punter, are going to amount to anything of relevance in this league.
Watch & see." AFC South QB Rankings 1. Manning 2. Schaub 3. Young 4. Leftwich Probably fine considering, but really what we know is Manning had another good year, Young had another bad year, Schaub was hurt a fair amount of the year, and Leftwich wasn't here. Donte Stallworth will be a GREAT signing! 46 receptions, 697 yards, (15.2 avg), 3 td's (6 years $33.1 Million dollars) Damon Huard will have a spectacular year. 2,257 Yards 11 Tds, 13 Ints, 76.8 rating, didn't end season as starter (Spectacular, might be over doing it)
Quinn Gray will be a better QB than Byron Leftwich. Could be true, not enough info. Byron Leftwich will get injured - TRUE Dennis Northcutt (5 years $17 million) - 44 receptions, 601 yards (13.7 avg), 4 TD's I am not going to throw down to much judgement, I was just providing as much facts as I could. Fact still remains we won't know about the draft selections for a couple more years (I am saving that PM)... but early indications have me extatic Mad Dog wasn't drafting for us... Interesting statline on Griffin and Nelson. Only one thing though. Griffin played in five less games than Nelson. You also never hear Titan fans complaining about Griffin blowing coverage. Griffin >>>> Nelson
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