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RE: Is Tim Tebow really that good?

Bill4Jags — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:05:35 GMT

I don't know. It really isn't up to me, now, is it?

RE: Is Tim Tebow really that good?

Alfie — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:49:40 GMT

[quote][b]HURRICANE!!! (7/31/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Alfie (7/30/2008)[/b][hr]He has terrible footwork, terrible mechanics, passes exclusively out of the shotgun, and he's never turned his back to a defense before and had to make a read. All his play actions are out of the shotgun as an option watching the defense. He'd be better served to "Matt Jones" the NFL and enter as a TE/H-Back.

I wouldn't draft him early.[/quote]

From the staunch supporter of Shack & Leftwich. You just decribed Leftwich and supported Shack drafting him with the 7th pick

You contradict yourself more than the chick in Orlando that just killed her 2 year old daughter.[/quote]

Actually, I wanted the Jaguars to draft Jordan Gross from Utah.

I thought Leftwich would be a good QB after watching his rookie season in the NFL.

It's only a contradiction because you don't know what you're talking about.

RE: Is Tim Tebow really that good?

HURRICANE!!! — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 09:10:29 GMT

[quote][b]Alfie (7/30/2008)[/b][hr]He has terrible footwork, terrible mechanics, passes exclusively out of the shotgun, and he's never turned his back to a defense before and had to make a read. All his play actions are out of the shotgun as an option watching the defense. He'd be better served to "Matt Jones" the NFL and enter as a TE/H-Back.

I wouldn't draft him early.[/quote]

From the staunch supporter of Shack & Leftwich. You just decribed Leftwich and supported Shack drafting him with the 7th pick

You contradict yourself more than the chick in Orlando that just killed her 2 year old daughter.

RE: Is Tim Tebow really that good?

Big John — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 01:45:09 GMT

[quote][b]40 (7/30/2008)[/b][hr]Dear Tim,

After watching you start 1 season of college football, we at jaguars.com have decided you won't make it in the NFL.

Love,
Jaguars.com posters

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Are you kidding me? Lets see how the next season, at least, pans out before the lovers crown him and the haters bury him.

And btw, as a HUGE UCLA fan, McNown was a great college leader on the field but he had a weak arm for the pros. Somewhat like Saint Danny. The McNown\Tebow comparison doesn't work.[/quote]

I wasn't comparing their McNown and Tebow's ability because that would be just plain stupid. I was comparing Tebow to a high draft pick that flopped. But then I changed my mind and said that Tebow would pull a Vince Young and get by on media hype.

RE: Is Tim Tebow really that good?

Totentanz — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 18:33:33 GMT

[quote][b]BigJohn98 (7/30/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Alfie (7/30/2008)[/b][hr]He has terrible footwork, terrible mechanics, passes exclusively out of the shotgun, and he's never turned his back to a defense before and had to make a read. All his play actions are out of the shotgun as an option watching the defense. He'd be better served to "Matt Jones" the NFL and enter as a TE/H-Back.

I wouldn't draft him early.[/quote]

YOU ARE JUST A HATER!!! DON'T HATE THAT SEC SPEEEEEEEEEEED!! SEC SPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED>>>>>>SLOW BIG 10![/quote]

Way to break the cycle there, ace.

RE: Is Tim Tebow really that good?

40 — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 18:29:46 GMT

Dear Tim,

After watching you start 1 season of college football, we at jaguars.com have decided you won't make it in the NFL.

Love,
Jaguars.com posters

--------------------

Are you kidding me? Lets see how the next season, at least, pans out before the lovers crown him and the haters bury him.

And btw, as a HUGE UCLA fan, McNown was a great college leader on the field but he had a weak arm for the pros. Somewhat like Saint Danny. The McNown\Tebow comparison doesn't work.

RE: Is Tim Tebow really that good?

BigJohn98 — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 18:10:17 GMT

YOU ARE JUST A HATER!!! DON'T HATE THAT SEC SPEEEEEEEEEEED!! SEC SPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED>>>>>>SLOW BIG 10!

RE: Is Tim Tebow really that good?

Alfie — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 18:01:03 GMT

He has terrible footwork, terrible mechanics, passes exclusively out of the shotgun, and he's never turned his back to a defense before and had to make a read. All his play actions are out of the shotgun as an option watching the defense. He'd be better served to "Matt Jones" the NFL and enter as a TE/H-Back.

I wouldn't draft him early.

RE: Is Tim Tebow really that good?

Duuuuvall!!!! — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 17:32:24 GMT

Seeing Tebow play makes me wonder what Chris Rix would have been like with, half a brain, an ounce of maturity, and decent coaching.

Rix had all the tools and athletic ability, but could not grasp the mental part of football that Tebow has mastered.

RE: Is Tim Tebow really that good?

HURRICANE!!! — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 14:07:50 GMT

[quote][b]Big John (7/30/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Its Meier Time (7/30/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Big John (7/30/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Its Meier Time (7/30/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Big John (7/30/2008)[/b][hr]He won't be a "good" NFL quarterback. At best, he'll have a Cade McNown NFL career.[/quote]

The difference is Tebow is more athletically gifted than McNown and it'll be easier for him to adjust. If Tebow can get on a QB friendly team (Bucs?) with good coaches, he can be taught to improve on his mechanics.[/quote]

Easier to adjust? McNown came from a pro-style school, UCLA...It will be much harder for Tebow to adjust to the NFL than it was for McNown (who isn't un-athletic by any means).[/quote]

Adjust his mechanics, not the grasp of the game.[/quote]

Either way, he'll be drafted high and won't turn out to be much in the NFL. Actually, I think he'll have a Vince Young type career. People will hype him because they like "what he's about" and they'll turn a blind eye to his bad QB play. He'll be in the league for a good bit. Heck, he'll probably win ROY on hype alone.[/quote]

John ... can you please make up your mind ? You do realize Tebow is a little smarter than Vince Young don't you? I think you meant to say Steve Young !!!!

RE: Is Tim Tebow really that good?

HURRICANE!!! — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:57:55 GMT

[quote][b]SLAP-A-HENDERSON (7/29/2008)[/b][hr]And can he transform into a NFL QB?

Is he the second coming for his fans or the filipinos?

Is he really straight? I mean everything seems so perfect in his life.[/quote]

Do you mean perfect like Tom Brady, Payton Manning, Jay-Z, Brad Pitt, and others.

Yes, believe it or not some people are fortunate like that. There are many Tim Tebows in this world.

RE: Is Tim Tebow really that good?

BigJohn98 — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 09:30:23 GMT

[quote][b]Its Meier Time (7/30/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Big John (7/30/2008)[/b][hr]He won't be a "good" NFL quarterback. At best, he'll have a Cade McNown NFL career.[/quote]

The difference is Tebow is more athletically gifted than McNown and it'll be easier for him to adjust. If Tebow can get on a QB friendly team (Bucs?) with good coaches, he can be taught to improve on his mechanics. [/quote]

Tebow is the West Coast offense? LOL.

He is a very gifted player athletically, and has a fire that can't be matched by anyone in college football. He also happened to go to a school with the perfect system for him. I just can't see him as a QB in the NFL.

RE: Is Tim Tebow really that good?

Totentanz — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 08:33:13 GMT

I'm glad to see we've filled our weekly quota on Tim Tebow threads. I've got a feeling he ends up in Tampa.

RE: Is Tim Tebow really that good?

jagibelieve — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 07:53:58 GMT

[quote][b]SLAP-A-HENDERSON (7/29/2008)[/b][hr]And can he transform into a NFL QB?

[/quote]No

RE: Is Tim Tebow really that good?

Its Meier Time — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 01:40:35 GMT

Yea, that's probably more accurate.

RE: Is Tim Tebow really that good?

Big John — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 01:37:41 GMT

[quote][b]Its Meier Time (7/30/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Big John (7/30/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Its Meier Time (7/30/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Big John (7/30/2008)[/b][hr]He won't be a "good" NFL quarterback. At best, he'll have a Cade McNown NFL career.[/quote]

The difference is Tebow is more athletically gifted than McNown and it'll be easier for him to adjust. If Tebow can get on a QB friendly team (Bucs?) with good coaches, he can be taught to improve on his mechanics.[/quote]

Easier to adjust? McNown came from a pro-style school, UCLA...It will be much harder for Tebow to adjust to the NFL than it was for McNown (who isn't un-athletic by any means).[/quote]

Adjust his mechanics, not the grasp of the game.[/quote]

Either way, he'll be drafted high and won't turn out to be much in the NFL. Actually, I think he'll have a Vince Young type career. People will hype him because they like "what he's about" and they'll turn a blind eye to his bad QB play. He'll be in the league for a good bit. Heck, he'll probably win ROY on hype alone.

RE: Is Tim Tebow really that good?

JohnBasedow — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 01:36:00 GMT

I think he is a very good and talented player. His supporters and fanboys on the other hand are a bunch of bell ends.

RE: Is Tim Tebow really that good?

Its Meier Time — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 01:32:36 GMT

[quote][b]Big John (7/30/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Its Meier Time (7/30/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Big John (7/30/2008)[/b][hr]He won't be a "good" NFL quarterback. At best, he'll have a Cade McNown NFL career.[/quote]

The difference is Tebow is more athletically gifted than McNown and it'll be easier for him to adjust. If Tebow can get on a QB friendly team (Bucs?) with good coaches, he can be taught to improve on his mechanics.[/quote]

Easier to adjust? McNown came from a pro-style school, UCLA...It will be much harder for Tebow to adjust to the NFL than it was for McNown (who isn't un-athletic by any means).[/quote]

Adjust his mechanics, not the grasp of the game.

RE: Is Tim Tebow really that good?

Big John — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 01:30:23 GMT

[quote][b]Its Meier Time (7/30/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Big John (7/30/2008)[/b][hr]He won't be a "good" NFL quarterback. At best, he'll have a Cade McNown NFL career.[/quote]

The difference is Tebow is more athletically gifted than McNown and it'll be easier for him to adjust. If Tebow can get on a QB friendly team (Bucs?) with good coaches, he can be taught to improve on his mechanics.[/quote]

Easier to adjust? McNown came from a pro-style school, UCLA...It will be much harder for Tebow to adjust to the NFL than it was for McNown (who isn't un-athletic by any means).

RE: Is Tim Tebow really that good?

HunterPunter — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 01:28:45 GMT

Well, the transition to the pros isn't always that easy

But hopefully it will be good for him!

RE: Is Tim Tebow really that good?

Its Meier Time — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 01:25:17 GMT

[quote][b]Big John (7/30/2008)[/b][hr]He won't be a "good" NFL quarterback. At best, he'll have a Cade McNown NFL career.[/quote]

RE: Is Tim Tebow really that good?

Big John — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 01:21:45 GMT

He won't be a "good" NFL quarterback. At best, he'll have a Cade McNown NFL career.

RE: Is Tim Tebow really that good?

Its Meier Time — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 01:18:22 GMT

I'm a Gator Hater and I think Tebow will be a good NFL quarterback. He just needs fine tuning on his mechanics and he'll be fine.

RE: Is Tim Tebow really that good?

6 Joe Six-Pack 6 — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 01:16:35 GMT

His mechanics leave a lot to be desired at times.. but this kid lives and breathes football. It would not surprise me at the least if he enters the NFL at a position that is not QB. It also wouldn't surprise me if he somehow managed to excel at QB given his dedication and work ethic.

Imagine if this guy would have been a LB, TE, or FB/RB. We would be talking about a completely different prospect.

Anyways, as a Florida fan, even I don't see him being a very good NFL QB.

Could he become one? Sure. With that said, he has a lot to show us between now and the day he declares for the draft.

Before last season he was launching deep passes 5 yards beyond the intended target.

Blind Grator homers think he'll be Peyton.. opposing fans tend to think he'll never reach to the NFL. I believe both are very wrong in their predictions.

RE: Is Tim Tebow really that good?

JohnBasedow — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 00:45:22 GMT

[quote][b]JacksJags (7/29/2008)[/b][hr]by the way....what do the fans and filipinos thing mean?[/quote]

i assume because he was born there because his parents were on a mission trip to the philippines.

and i have no clue why the OP mentioned it.

RE: Is Tim Tebow really that good?

JacksJags — Tue, 29 Jul 2008 22:16:29 GMT

by the way....what do the fans and filipinos thing mean?

RE: Is Tim Tebow really that good?

JacksJags — Tue, 29 Jul 2008 22:15:55 GMT

[quote][b]SLAP-A-HENDERSON (7/29/2008)[/b][hr]And can he transform into a NFL QB?

Is he the second coming for his fans or the filipinos?

Is he really straight? I mean everything seems so perfect in his life.[/quote]

Having seen and coached against this kid in High school, seen him play in college and knowing his work ethic I think that he can definitely be a very good NFL QB. He has a fire unlike many people, and that fire/desire can help him achieve a lot of things at that level. Not to mention the raw talent he possesses.

RE: Is Tim Tebow really that good?

KingIngram052787 — Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:11:26 GMT

He is that good at the college level. He has some mechanical issues that I'm sure some NFL Qb coach could fix. If not, like they said make him a FB. Either way it works out, lol.

RE: Is Tim Tebow really that good?

Buckethead — Tue, 29 Jul 2008 20:55:20 GMT

That or a second rate fullback.

It depends on how Meyer uses him.

RE: Is Tim Tebow really that good?

cunninghamj — Tue, 29 Jul 2008 20:46:51 GMT

I know this is somewhat in jest, but in my opinion he would be a good pro qb. He has a cannon ...and alot of his passes are near perfect. He does have problems throwing a tight spiral, but they get where they need to go. He didnt hold the all time FL passing record at one point for not being able to throw.

RE: Is Tim Tebow really that good?

Bchbunnie4 — Tue, 29 Jul 2008 20:29:45 GMT

[quote][b]SLAP-A-HENDERSON (7/29/2008)[/b][hr]And can he transform into a NFL QB?

Is he the second coming for his fans or the filipinos?

Is he really straight? I mean everything seems so perfect in his life.[/quote]

Yes...he is all that and a bag of communion wafers!:D

Is Tim Tebow really that good?

SLAP-A-HENDERSON — Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:57:13 GMT

And can he transform into a NFL QB?

Is he the second coming for his fans or the filipinos?

Is he really straight? I mean everything seems so perfect in his life.