InstantForum.NET v4.1.4jaguars.com Message Boardhttp://mb.jaguars.com/webmaster@jaguars.comTue, 02 Dec 2008 15:20:19 GMT20http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic545035-8-1.aspxMatt Forte, Kevin Smith, Rashard Medenhall<BR><BR>Jerod Mayo, Glen DorseyThu, 10 Jul 2008 22:12:46 GMTJamesMichiganhttp://mb.jaguars.com/Topic545035-8-1.aspxMatt Forte is a guy I will be keeping my eye on.Thu, 10 Jul 2008 21:20:04 GMTamit8700http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic545035-8-1.aspxJonathan Stewart, and it will be noticeable too. The NFC South doesn't have a true #1 team, in my opinion. It wouldn't be that hard for the Panthers or the Saints to overtake the Bucs. Hell, even that Falcons have a shot at winning the division. Of corpse, I don't see that happening. HEHEHEHEHESun, 06 Jul 2008 08:00:24 GMTI DELETE THREADS FOR FUNhttp://mb.jaguars.com/Topic545035-8-1.aspx[quote][b]jones&amp;24 (6/28/2008)[/b][hr]D-MAC!!<P>&lt;---Hogster-Homer.;)[/quote]<P>I resemble that remark!Sun, 06 Jul 2008 01:20:30 GMTReal Dealhttp://mb.jaguars.com/Topic545035-8-1.aspxJonathan StewartFri, 04 Jul 2008 23:50:56 GMTTotentanzhttp://mb.jaguars.com/Topic545035-8-1.aspxStewart might because I think Carolina's pass game is a sitting duck. Delhomme started throwing a Nerf a couple of months ago. That sounds really encouraging. Looks like they might have to go the two back route like Minnesota. What I don't understand about Carolina is why they haven't ever really gone after a big #2 WR to compliment Smith. They signed Keyshawn a few years back, which was good, but hardly the solution. I mean if they have Smith and say Chad Johnson, that'd work. But I think they have been way too passive in the pass department. Smith is good as there is, but he can't throw the ball and then run downfield and catch it. They need another top WR and a really good QB, still, IMHO. The two RB thing is good, but you don't let a guy like Smith wilt on the vine.Fri, 04 Jul 2008 22:05:34 GMTThe Lord of Orangehttp://mb.jaguars.com/Topic545035-8-1.aspxImpact can mean many different things.. Patrick Willis was a bad-azz last year.. the Niners still sucked.<br><br>Even if Jonathon Stewart broke 2,500 yards rushing.. I still think Carolina's going to suck.<br><br>EDIT: and of course I am exaggerating to make a point about how much Carolina stinks.Mon, 30 Jun 2008 07:27:57 GMTTheSpacePopehttp://mb.jaguars.com/Topic545035-8-1.aspxTyrell Johnson - S</P><P>2nd rd pick - VikingsMon, 30 Jun 2008 00:47:08 GMTIts Meier Timehttp://mb.jaguars.com/Topic545035-8-1.aspxJerod Mayo, guy is going to be star in this league. He is a great athlete, leader and a team player who can play inside or outside LB. Its just too bad he is a Patriot.Mon, 30 Jun 2008 00:38:06 GMTTin Cuphttp://mb.jaguars.com/Topic545035-8-1.aspxI like Matt Ryan, he's a cerebral QB, who has a good arm, has a nice release, and looks like he's got a good head on his shoulders........I think his game is going to fit the pro level nicely. Having said that you never pick a rookie QB as a "rooke that will have the biggest impact".Mon, 30 Jun 2008 00:28:46 GMTCarr Bombedhttp://mb.jaguars.com/Topic545035-8-1.aspx[quote][b]rfc17 (6/29/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]91 Off The Edge 93 (6/29/2008)[/b][hr]I think Matt Ryan went a bit too high.. I think the logic there was that he was something like Cutler in the fact that he had nobody around him and carried his team.. difference being.. Cutler had <STRONG>absolutely nobody</STRONG> around him.<P>I think Ryan will be ok after 3 years.</P><P>I'm kind of pulling for Mike Smith and the Falcons.[/quote]<P>I think Ryan went too high as well but for a different reason. During Cutler's senior year, he had Earl Bennett who I think is better than anyone Ryan had this season.<P>Ryan lucked out in the sense that this year just so happened to be a weak one for upper echelon QB prospects. Lots of depth but little elite. if he had come out the same year Cutler did, Ryan may have been the 4th QB taken. Young and Leinart had the winning pedigree with the national titles. And I think Cutler has better physical tools and is a better athlete. most DI schools were recruiting him as a defensive back. Vandy was one of the few who recruited him at QB.[/quote]<P>You're right. He did have Earl Bennett.. That guy might be a heckuva player in the league.<P>Yeah.. I agree in regards to if he had come out the same year as Cutler. <P>Ryan never amazed me. Nothing to warrant the 3rd overall pick..Sun, 29 Jun 2008 18:48:10 GMT6 Joe Six-Pack 6http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic545035-8-1.aspxJonathan StewartSun, 29 Jun 2008 15:13:31 GMTThe World's Greatesthttp://mb.jaguars.com/Topic545035-8-1.aspx[quote][b]91 Off The Edge 93 (6/29/2008)[/b][hr]I think Matt Ryan went a bit too high.. I think the logic there was that he was something like Cutler in the fact that he had nobody around him and carried his team.. difference being.. Cutler had <STRONG>absolutely nobody</STRONG> around him.<P>I think Ryan will be ok after 3 years.</P><P>I'm kind of pulling for Mike Smith and the Falcons.[/quote]<P>I think Ryan went too high as well but for a different reason. During Cutler's senior year, he had Earl Bennett who I think is better than anyone Ryan had this season.<P>Ryan lucked out in the sense that this year just so happened to be a weak one for upper echelon QB prospects. Lots of depth but little elite. if he had come out the same year Cutler did, Ryan may have been the 4th QB taken. Young and Leinart had the winning pedigree with the national titles. And I think Cutler has better physical tools and is a better athlete. most DI schools were recruiting him as a defensive back. Vandy was one of the few who recruited him at QB.Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:10:57 GMTrfc17http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic545035-8-1.aspxI think Matt Ryan went a bit too high.. I think the logic there was that he was something like Cutler in the fact that he had nobody around him and carried his team.. difference being.. Cutler had <STRONG>absolutely nobody</STRONG> around him.</P><P>I think Ryan will be ok after 3 years.</P><P>I'm kind of pulling for Mike Smith and the Falcons.Sun, 29 Jun 2008 14:37:27 GMT6 Joe Six-Pack 6http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic545035-8-1.aspx[quote][b]TheSpacePope (6/29/2008)[/b]<BR><BR>I hate the excuse for his 19 INTs.. he had no WRs.. yea, what a great frigging excuse.<BR><BR>[/quote]</P><P>I thought the excuse for his 19 INTs was the fact that he threw 654 passes. which comes out to 1 INT for every 34.4 passes thrown. Brohm was 1 INT for every 39.4. Henne 1 INT for every 30.9. Booty was 34.0. so those 19 INTs dont look so bad in that light.</P><P>Seems like everyone is jumping on the Matt Forte bandwagon. And you can count me on that. I was hyping him up before the draft... i kept posting his youtube highlights. I thought he showed really good feet for a guy his size. and he has pretty good speed in the open field. he even looked good against LSU's defense last year. Plus the way the offseason is working out for the Bears, he'll get the opportunity for a lot of playing time. which is really the key factor in how productive a rookie will be. Durant was very good for us when he got the chance to play, but if it hadnt been for Peterson getting hurt, we probably wouldnt have seen much from him. so everything is falling in place for Forte to have a successful year.Sun, 29 Jun 2008 14:31:03 GMTrfc17http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic545035-8-1.aspx[quote][b]The Lord of Orange (6/28/2008)[/b][hr]I wouldn't be suprised if McFadden ends up with some pretty good numbers. I think he can make over 1,000 his rookie season. Matt Ryan is one I'll be looking at. Atlanta has some pretty good WR's and I'm curious to see if they'll use Turner as a receiving back out of the backfield. I think he could catch 60 passes out of the backfield next season if that's in their game plan.[/quote]<br><br>Matt Ryan sucked in College and he'll suck in the NFL.<br><br>I hate the excuse for his 19 INTs.. he had no WRs.. yea, what a great frigging excuse.<br><br>The QB makes the WR not the other way around - the only exception was Randy Moss and Daunte Culpepper.Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:54:54 GMTTheSpacePopehttp://mb.jaguars.com/Topic545035-8-1.aspxMcFadden and Bush are polar opposities. McFadden has the size to be a running back in the league. Bush played in the Pac-10 which fluffed his numbers coming out of school. McFadden played against real, physical defenses and excelled. His size, power, and speed will allow him to excel.</P><P>The real question mark with McFadden is that he doesn't have a very good offense in Oakland around him.Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:36:49 GMTJacksJagshttp://mb.jaguars.com/Topic545035-8-1.aspxDarren McFadden will be a disappointment in the pro's. Much like Reggie Bush. <BR><BR>My picks for OROY &amp; DROY are RB Kevin Smith &amp; CB Dominique Rodgers-CromartieSun, 29 Jun 2008 12:43:29 GMTThe Mad Doghttp://mb.jaguars.com/Topic545035-8-1.aspxCurtis Lofton could have a huge impact on the Falcons D. He's my pick for DROY.Sat, 28 Jun 2008 23:18:17 GMTJ'villeJagshttp://mb.jaguars.com/Topic545035-8-1.aspxI wouldn't be suprised if McFadden ends up with some pretty good numbers. I think he can make over 1,000 his rookie season. Matt Ryan is one I'll be looking at. Atlanta has some pretty good WR's and I'm curious to see if they'll use Turner as a receiving back out of the backfield. I think he could catch 60 passes out of the backfield next season if that's in their game plan.Sat, 28 Jun 2008 22:06:09 GMTThe Lord of Orangehttp://mb.jaguars.com/Topic545035-8-1.aspxD-MAC!!</P><P>&lt;---Hogster-Homer.;)Sat, 28 Jun 2008 12:36:37 GMTjones&24http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic545035-8-1.aspxFargas has some weight to him.. he made holes where there weren't any. McFadden needs holes to run through.. then he can tear through a secondary.<br><br>EDIT: I completely agree with your assessment of Gholston. Once he is blocked - he stays blocked. I can't think of a time he disengaged from a blocker.<br><br>Derrick Harvey is going to be much better.. and Chris Long will definitely be a crapload better.Sat, 28 Jun 2008 11:30:47 GMTTheSpacePopehttp://mb.jaguars.com/Topic545035-8-1.aspxI think that the Raiders O-line, when it comes to running the ball, does just fine. I mean, Justin Fargas was a 1,000 yard rusher last season, and he wasn't even the opening day starter for the Raiders. I think McFadden will be fine there.</P><P>Now, I think that that fool the Jets drafted, Gholston, I think he could be a bust. I always thought he just coasted on his talent, and had no drive to improve really.</P><P>But since we're talking about impacts, I'll say that Jonathan Stewart will completely revitalize the Panthers run game.Sat, 28 Jun 2008 11:23:35 GMTb0nghttp://mb.jaguars.com/Topic545035-8-1.aspxDarren McFadden on almost any other team would have my vote.. but their O-line is just atrocious and he's going to get smothered.<br><br>I hate to make a homer pick but I think Quentin Groves will.. he has some insane speed and as a DPR I think he'll dominate.Sat, 28 Jun 2008 11:11:14 GMTTheSpacePope