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RE: Vince Young getting ready for the season in Texas.......

Utopia — Tue, 27 May 2008 23:26:55 GMT

[quote][b]TITAN1 (5/27/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Zero0101 (5/27/2008)[/b][hr]Wow, Tack fans that state that the Jaguars would rather have Vince Young over David Garrard. That is just nuts. I can understand someone defending their team's quarterback, but there's just no doubt that Garrard had a better year than Young both statistically and performance-wise. Whatever though. If that doesn't convince you then nothing will.

It seems that Titan1 is having severe delusions of grandeur after having seen Vince Young without his shirt. Perhaps that is what the Tacks are basing their positive opinion of Young on. God knows he couldn't throw a pass to save his life or the lives of "duh rosez on his ahm."

See ya'll pansies in a couple of months![/quote]You H.a.g. fans must be the ones turned on by VY with his shirt off, look who started the threads. As for in a couple of months, HERE KITTY, KITTY, KITTY![/quote]

That's ONLY if, and I mean ONLY IF Wonderlic6's teammates can keep him from quitting before the season starts. We know his heart is really back in Texas at those "Baller bars"

Maybe you should update your sig to something more appropriate:

The Quitter

or..............

The original "Baller"

RE: Vince Young getting ready for the season in Texas.......

Psychop1 — Tue, 27 May 2008 19:55:48 GMT

[quote][b]Fargin (5/27/2008)[/b][hr]More avatar smack from the tacks. Well, if that's all you got...[/quote]

Technically, mine wasn't avatar smack, but thanks for playing!!! :P

RE: Vince Young getting ready for the season in Texas.......

Psychop1 — Tue, 27 May 2008 19:53:07 GMT

It seems that Titan1 is having severe delusions of grandeur after having seen Vince Young without his shirt. Perhaps that is what the Tacks are basing their positive opinion of Young on. God knows he couldn't throw a pass to save his life or the lives of "duh rosez on his ahm."

See ya'll pansies in a couple of months![/quote]

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RE: Vince Young getting ready for the season in Texas.......

TITAN1 — Tue, 27 May 2008 19:28:59 GMT

[quote][b]Zero0101 (5/27/2008)[/b][hr]Wow, Tack fans that state that the Jaguars would rather have Vince Young over David Garrard. That is just nuts. I can understand someone defending their team's quarterback, but there's just no doubt that Garrard had a better year than Young both statistically and performance-wise. Whatever though. If that doesn't convince you then nothing will.

It seems that Titan1 is having severe delusions of grandeur after having seen Vince Young without his shirt. Perhaps that is what the Tacks are basing their positive opinion of Young on. God knows he couldn't throw a pass to save his life or the lives of "duh rosez on his ahm."

See ya'll pansies in a couple of months![/quote]You H.a.g. fans must be the ones turned on by VY with his shirt off, look who started the threads. As for in a couple of months, HERE KITTY, KITTY, KITTY!

RE: Vince Young getting ready for the season in Texas.......

Zero0101 — Tue, 27 May 2008 15:50:22 GMT

Wow, Tack fans that state that the Jaguars would rather have Vince Young over David Garrard. That is just nuts. I can understand someone defending their team's quarterback, but there's just no doubt that Garrard had a better year than Young both statistically and performance-wise. Whatever though. If that doesn't convince you then nothing will.

See ya'll pansies in a couple of months!

RE: Vince Young getting ready for the season in Texas.......

Fargin — Tue, 27 May 2008 08:08:01 GMT

More avatar smack from the tacks. Well, if that's all you got...

RE: Vince Young getting ready for the season in Texas.......

Psychop1 — Tue, 27 May 2008 07:01:57 GMT

[quote][b]Fargin (5/26/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]TITAN1 (5/26/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Fargin (5/26/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Vincesanity08 (5/26/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]JWJAG (5/17/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]TITAN1 (5/17/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]continuous (5/17/2008)[/b][hr]Vince Young is GARBAGE

wonder if he'll break into a double digit passer rating this year.[/quote]Last year opposing defenses knew our receivers were struggling and didn't worry about them so they were not going to let VY run. But, now with Chris Johnson, a healthy Lendale, Crumpler, and Hawk , they can't just contain VY, a lot more weapons now.[/quote]

It was not yourWRs that were struggling, it was VY. Why do you think that the FO went and got a TE and RB?Theyknow that better recievers will not help an inaccurate passer. They went out and got dump off personnel sothat when VY can not run, he can dump the ball off to Johnson or Crumpler.The coaching staff does not trust VY to wingames with his arm, so they are trying to work around his inability to throw the ball.[/quote]

Who cares as long as Titans keep winning? Oh...jags fans[/quote]

Like they did in the playoffs? So you like one and done then. Last year was a aberration, I doubt you'll even get the chance to go one and done this year but you can keep dreaming.[/quote]Your boyfriend, jackassjags, said that your avatar is a very good likeness of you. Please get some teeth, you are giving the south a bad name![/quote]

Avatar smack insults, pretty childish don't you think. Here's the story behind the Avatar fool.

http://www.j-a-associates.com/Article.htm

Funny a tennessee fan questions someone about having no teeth. I'm sure your family has fewer teeth than people and a family treee that resembles a 2X4. Say hi to your toothless Aunt Mommie for me.[/quote]

Fargin, I know times are rough, but seriously, trying to peddle your own photo??? :LOL:

RE: Vince Young getting ready for the season in Texas.......

TexasJagsFan — Mon, 26 May 2008 23:38:52 GMT

Let him keep running his mouth Fargin. He won't be back after we once again show how useless and overrated Vince Young is.

RE: Vince Young getting ready for the season in Texas.......

jones&24 — Mon, 26 May 2008 23:36:45 GMT

Hmmmm....Three pages disappeared...

RE: Vince Young getting ready for the season in Texas.......

Fargin — Mon, 26 May 2008 23:19:12 GMT

[quote][b]TITAN1 (5/26/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Fargin (5/26/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Vincesanity08 (5/26/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]JWJAG (5/17/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]TITAN1 (5/17/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]continuous (5/17/2008)[/b][hr]Vince Young is GARBAGE

wonder if he'll break into a double digit passer rating this year.[/quote]Last year opposing defenses knew our receivers were struggling and didn't worry about them so they were not going to let VY run. But, now with Chris Johnson, a healthy Lendale, Crumpler, and Hawk , they can't just contain VY, a lot more weapons now.[/quote]

It was not yourWRs that were struggling, it was VY. Why do you think that the FO went and got a TE and RB?Theyknow that better recievers will not help an inaccurate passer. They went out and got dump off personnel sothat when VY can not run, he can dump the ball off to Johnson or Crumpler.The coaching staff does not trust VY to wingames with his arm, so they are trying to work around his inability to throw the ball.[/quote]

Who cares as long as Titans keep winning? Oh...jags fans[/quote]

Like they did in the playoffs? So you like one and done then. Last year was a aberration, I doubt you'll even get the chance to go one and done this year but you can keep dreaming.[/quote]Your boyfriend, jackassjags, said that your avatar is a very good likeness of you. Please get some teeth, you are giving the south a bad name![/quote]

Avatar smack insults, pretty childish don't you think. Here's the story behind the Avatar fool.

http://www.j-a-associates.com/Article.htm

Funny a tennessee fan questions someone about having no teeth. I'm sure your family has fewer teeth than people and a family treee that resembles a 2X4. Say hi to your toothless Aunt Mommie for me.

RE: Vince Young getting ready for the season in Texas.......

TITAN1 — Mon, 26 May 2008 22:50:15 GMT

[quote][b]Fargin (5/26/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Vincesanity08 (5/26/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]JWJAG (5/17/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]TITAN1 (5/17/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]continuous (5/17/2008)[/b][hr]Vince Young is GARBAGE

wonder if he'll break into a double digit passer rating this year.[/quote]Last year opposing defenses knew our receivers were struggling and didn't worry about them so they were not going to let VY run. But, now with Chris Johnson, a healthy Lendale, Crumpler, and Hawk , they can't just contain VY, a lot more weapons now.[/quote]

It was not yourWRs that were struggling, it was VY. Why do you think that the FO went and got a TE and RB?Theyknow that better recievers will not help an inaccurate passer. They went out and got dump off personnel sothat when VY can not run, he can dump the ball off to Johnson or Crumpler.The coaching staff does not trust VY to wingames with his arm, so they are trying to work around his inability to throw the ball.[/quote]

Who cares as long as Titans keep winning? Oh...jags fans[/quote]

Like they did in the playoffs? So you like one and done then. Last year was a aberration, I doubt you'll even get the chance to go one and done this year but you can keep dreaming.[/quote]Your boyfriend, jackassjags, said that your avatar is a very good likeness of you. Please get some teeth, you are giving the south a bad name!

RE: Vince Young getting ready for the season in Texas.......

Fargin — Mon, 26 May 2008 21:04:18 GMT

[quote][b]Vincesanity08 (5/26/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]JWJAG (5/17/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]TITAN1 (5/17/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]continuous (5/17/2008)[/b][hr]Vince Young is GARBAGE

wonder if he'll break into a double digit passer rating this year.[/quote]Last year opposing defenses knew our receivers were struggling and didn't worry about them so they were not going to let VY run. But, now with Chris Johnson, a healthy Lendale, Crumpler, and Hawk , they can't just contain VY, a lot more weapons now.[/quote]

It was not your WRs that were struggling, it was VY. Why do you think that the FO went and got a TE and RB? They know that better recievers will not help an inaccurate passer. They went out and got dump off personnel so that when VY can not run, he can dump the ball off to Johnson or Crumpler. The coaching staff does not trust VY to win games with his arm, so they are trying to work around his inability to throw the ball. [/quote]

Who cares as long as Titans keep winning? Oh...jags fans[/quote]

Like they did in the playoffs? So you like one and done then. Last year was a aberration, I doubt you'll even get the chance to go one and done this year but you can keep dreaming.

RE: Vince Young getting ready for the season in Texas.......

Vincesanity08 — Mon, 26 May 2008 20:30:43 GMT

[quote][b]JWJAG (5/17/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]TITAN1 (5/17/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]continuous (5/17/2008)[/b][hr]Vince Young is GARBAGE

wonder if he'll break into a double digit passer rating this year.[/quote]Last year opposing defenses knew our receivers were struggling and didn't worry about them so they were not going to let VY run. But, now with Chris Johnson, a healthy Lendale, Crumpler, and Hawk , they can't just contain VY, a lot more weapons now.[/quote]

Who cares as long as Titans keep winning? Oh...jags fans

RE: Vince Young getting ready for the season in Texas.......

JacksJags — Wed, 21 May 2008 07:51:49 GMT

[quote][b]TITAN1 (5/17/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]JacksJags (5/17/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]TITAN1 (5/16/2008)[/b][hr]jackASSonville fans, you have to feel sorry for them, right? Not! ROTFLMAO![/quote]

Psychop1.....You gotta get the reigns in on this guy. He is really making your fan base look horrible.

At least you have some common sense, brains, and can bring something to the table. Come on, get the reigns on this goof ball.[/quote]Goof ball? LOL! Why, because I point out your jealously and whining? You guys keep crying whats his name, Andrue Jones or whatever, not getting the ROY, yet VY broke rookie records. Oh, and nobody pulls the reigns on me, I don't come here to kiss your butt. I see something stupid posted then straighten it out with facts. When you start the season 0-1, you will see, and when the Titans finish ahead of your team, you will be calling for "wood chopper's" head. VY, Chris Johnson, and Lendale are going to make your defense look like a sorry high school team and Albert, KVB, and The Freak are going to kill your no name QB and whats his name RB, you can take that to the bank![/quote]

RE: Vince Young getting ready for the season in Texas.......

JacksJags — Wed, 21 May 2008 07:50:06 GMT

[quote][b]TITAN1 (5/17/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]rnroutlaw (5/17/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]TITAN1 (5/17/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]continuous (5/17/2008)[/b][hr]Vince Young is GARBAGE

wonder if he'll break into a double digit passer rating this year.[/quote]Last year opposing defenses knew our receivers were struggling and didn't worry about them so they were not going to let VY run. But, now with Chris Johnson, a healthy Lendale, Crumpler, and Hawk , they can't just contain VY, a lot more weapons now.[/quote]

I'm still waiting on you to name a "weapon." Oh waityour post is over? Those are the stars we have to worry about? Superstars such as Lenwhale White? We're still waiting for you to drop those "facts" on us that you say you brought to the table as well. Stating that Vince Young is good is not a fact, no matter how much you mean it.[/quote]We split with you last season, without Chris Johnson, Crumpler, Hawk, and a healthy Lendale, so the way I see it, we should sweep you this season.[/quote]

RE: Vince Young getting ready for the season in Texas.......

zoinks! — Tue, 20 May 2008 22:09:26 GMT

Can we all agree to stop quoting the 8+ pages of posts in every response?

RE: Vince Young getting ready for the season in Texas.......

JacksJags — Tue, 20 May 2008 21:03:51 GMT

[quote][b]Psychop1 (5/20/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]JacksJags (5/20/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Psychop1 (5/20/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]JacksJags (5/20/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Psychop1 (5/20/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]JacksJags (5/19/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Psychop1 (5/19/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]JacksJags (5/19/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Psychop1 (5/19/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Fargin (5/19/2008)[/b][hr]Copout? You cite Charlie Casserly, Floyd Reese and Wonderlic6's Agent. All had good reason to lie. Give me a credible source and I'll believe you. If that's the best you have then we're spinning our wheels here. I thought tack1 was the most delusional tack troll, but now I'm not so sure.[/quote]

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/draft/2006-03-01-young-wonderlic_x.htm

[quote]The NFL did its best to silence talk about Young's test. Combine officials said the score of 6 was inaccurate. Titans GM Floyd Reese said he'd heard the first test had been administered or graded incorrectly. Texans GM Charley Casserly also disputed Young's score Sunday, saying it was inaccurate.[/quote]

Now prove you're not full of ****. :D[/quote]

I do think the wonderlic is a joke in and of itself, but.....

A few profootballtalk.com articles I have posted you have gotten on me about the validity of the site as a whole.[/quote]

Not sure what your point here is. PFT broke the story to begin with (Young scoring a six on the wonderlic), only to have to apologize for misinformation later.[/quote]

The first "news source" in the 2nd article you posted was pft. And he did score a 6 the first "try"[/quote]

I never linked to PFT, though it would be quite applicable seeing as how they released this garbage to begin with, only to have to take it back later. Actually, Vince wasn't the only player this happened to, just the only name that specifically came out. It was reported that all the tests within his group were graded incorrectly. So no, he never actually scored a six. That's like as if your boss mistakenly gave you another employee's salary that was much higher than your normal salary one week, and then you saying that you earned the money.[/quote]

I didn't say you linked something from pft[/quote]

Then what the hell are you referencing???[/quote]

read the second freaking article you posted[/quote]

Well, if it is within these quotes, that would be USAtoday, not PFT. I linked to every article I quoted, and the only other article I quoted in this thread came from the Houston Chronicle, again, not PFT.[/quote]

Planes.....whooshh.....

RE: Vince Young getting ready for the season in Texas.......

Utopia — Tue, 20 May 2008 20:03:32 GMT

[quote][b]Fargin (5/20/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Psychop1 (5/20/2008)[/b][hr]As for age difference, the problem is that you are comparing a guy that has been in the league for two seasons to a guy that has been in the league six seasons. Their roles are somewhat similar, only because Garrard recently became a starter. Young, however, is still firmly parked on the developmental side of his career.[/quote]

The key word there being parked. You said it, not me.:P[/quote]

Probably should get a ticket for being double parked.:LOL:

RE: Vince Young getting ready for the season in Texas.......

Fargin — Tue, 20 May 2008 18:55:13 GMT

[quote][b]Psychop1 (5/20/2008)[/b][hr]As for age difference, the problem is that you are comparing a guy that has been in the league for two seasons to a guy that has been in the league six seasons. Their roles are somewhat similar, only because Garrard recently became a starter. Young, however, is still firmly parked on the developmental side of his career.[/quote]

The key word there being parked. You said it, not me.:P

RE: Vince Young getting ready for the season in Texas.......

Psychop1 — Tue, 20 May 2008 18:47:19 GMT

[quote][b]GatorCountry (5/20/2008)[/b][hr]Danny Wuerffel is a better QB than Peyton Manning because Danny won a National Title in college, Because we all know College players/achievements > NFL players/achievements...

This obviously means Wonderlic6 > Captain Turnover. :laugh:

You tack fans are just about a funny as your sorry a** R-tard RB trying to play QB.[/quote]

"Sorry" is how I would describe your comprehension skills.

RE: Vince Young getting ready for the season in Texas.......

Psychop1 — Tue, 20 May 2008 18:45:49 GMT

[quote][b]JacksJags (5/20/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Psychop1 (5/20/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]JacksJags (5/20/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Psychop1 (5/20/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]JacksJags (5/19/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Psychop1 (5/19/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]JacksJags (5/19/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Psychop1 (5/19/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Fargin (5/19/2008)[/b][hr]Copout? You cite Charlie Casserly, Floyd Reese and Wonderlic6's Agent. All had good reason to lie. Give me a credible source and I'll believe you. If that's the best you have then we're spinning our wheels here. I thought tack1 was the most delusional tack troll, but now I'm not so sure.[/quote]

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/draft/2006-03-01-young-wonderlic_x.htm

Now prove you're not full of ****. :D[/quote]

I do think the wonderlic is a joke in and of itself, but.....

A few profootballtalk.com articles I have posted you have gotten on me about the validity of the site as a whole.[/quote]

Not sure what your point here is. PFT broke the story to begin with (Young scoring a six on the wonderlic), only to have to apologize for misinformation later.[/quote]

The first "news source" in the 2nd article you posted was pft. And he did score a 6 the first "try"[/quote]

I didn't say you linked something from pft[/quote]

Then what the hell are you referencing???[/quote]

read the second freaking article you posted[/quote]

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GatorCountry — Tue, 20 May 2008 18:28:05 GMT

Danny Wuerffel is a better QB than Peyton Manning because Danny won a National Title in college, Because we all know College players/achievements > NFL players/achievements...

This obviously means Wonderlic6 > Captain Turnover. :laugh:

You tack fans are just about a funny as your sorry a** R-tard RB trying to play QB.

RE: Vince Young getting ready for the season in Texas.......

JacksJags — Tue, 20 May 2008 18:04:48 GMT

[quote][b]Psychop1 (5/20/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]40 (5/20/2008)[/b][hr]As noted earlier, this is starting to sound like a Matt Jones thread. I can appreciate someone disagreeing about who has a better upside (DG or VY) but to argue that collegiate success are the mitigating factors doesn't make sense (Ron Dayne, Chris Weinke, etc) considering the NCAA and NFL are two completely different games. And age? If you don't have the talent or the head for the position all age says is that you are younger. Lastly, considering VY is being asked to run the ball more than DG I'd argue that VY is playing a role that will more than likely cause him to be beaten on more often.

VY is a serviceable qb. There have been times where he has shined. The guy obviously has talent but he simply isn't anything better than a bottom tier starter. How many more years until he realizes his full potential as a total qb? I don't deny his supporting cast isn't anything to write home about but Jacksonville doesn't have an upper tier WR corps either.

As you noted, it is your opininon that VY has this upside. It is my opinion that he doesn't and the points you noted as arguments for your opinion have no direct relationship to whether he will succeed. Offensive scheme, supporting talent, physical skills, coaching staff...those are the elements that might allow for or show success. College accolades and age? That is a big stretch.

Fun thread though. 19 pages is quite noteworthy. I think it shows just how intense this rivalry is which is always a plus.[/quote]

So, you're saying that people didn't know Manning was going to be successful before he was drafted??? Collegiate accolades do help determine a player's value, they just simply don't determine it 100%. There are plenty of guys that didn't do much in college that go on to have successful careers playing pro, and likewise, there are guys that were worldbeaters in college, and flunk out of the NFL. Still one of the best ways we can measure a player's value.

As for age difference, the problem is that you are comparing a guy that has been in the league for two seasons to a guy that has been in the league six seasons. Their roles are somewhat similar, only because Garrard recently became a starter. Young, however, is still firmly parked on the developmental side of his career.[/quote]

You proved exactly why you can't take accomplishments in college and apply....Thank you for debunking yourself.

RE: Vince Young getting ready for the season in Texas.......

JacksJags — Tue, 20 May 2008 18:04:07 GMT

[quote][b]Psychop1 (5/20/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]JacksJags (5/20/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Psychop1 (5/20/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]JacksJags (5/19/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Psychop1 (5/19/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]JacksJags (5/19/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Psychop1 (5/19/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Fargin (5/19/2008)[/b][hr]Copout? You cite Charlie Casserly, Floyd Reese and Wonderlic6's Agent. All had good reason to lie. Give me a credible source and I'll believe you. If that's the best you have then we're spinning our wheels here. I thought tack1 was the most delusional tack troll, but now I'm not so sure.[/quote]

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/draft/2006-03-01-young-wonderlic_x.htm

Now prove you're not full of ****. :D[/quote]

I do think the wonderlic is a joke in and of itself, but.....

A few profootballtalk.com articles I have posted you have gotten on me about the validity of the site as a whole.[/quote]

Not sure what your point here is. PFT broke the story to begin with (Young scoring a six on the wonderlic), only to have to apologize for misinformation later.[/quote]

The first "news source" in the 2nd article you posted was pft. And he did score a 6 the first "try"[/quote]

I didn't say you linked something from pft[/quote]

Then what the hell are you referencing???[/quote]

read the second freaking article you posted

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Psychop1 — Tue, 20 May 2008 18:01:02 GMT

[quote][b]JacksJags (5/20/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Psychop1 (5/20/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]JacksJags (5/19/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Psychop1 (5/19/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]JacksJags (5/19/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Psychop1 (5/19/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Fargin (5/19/2008)[/b][hr]Copout? You cite Charlie Casserly, Floyd Reese and Wonderlic6's Agent. All had good reason to lie. Give me a credible source and I'll believe you. If that's the best you have then we're spinning our wheels here. I thought tack1 was the most delusional tack troll, but now I'm not so sure.[/quote]

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/draft/2006-03-01-young-wonderlic_x.htm

Now prove you're not full of ****. :D[/quote]

I do think the wonderlic is a joke in and of itself, but.....

A few profootballtalk.com articles I have posted you have gotten on me about the validity of the site as a whole.[/quote]

Not sure what your point here is. PFT broke the story to begin with (Young scoring a six on the wonderlic), only to have to apologize for misinformation later.[/quote]

The first "news source" in the 2nd article you posted was pft. And he did score a 6 the first "try"[/quote]

I didn't say you linked something from pft[/quote]

Then what the hell are you referencing???

RE: Vince Young getting ready for the season in Texas.......

Psychop1 — Tue, 20 May 2008 18:00:07 GMT

[quote][b]40 (5/20/2008)[/b][hr]As noted earlier, this is starting to sound like a Matt Jones thread. I can appreciate someone disagreeing about who has a better upside (DG or VY) but to argue that collegiate success are the mitigating factors doesn't make sense (Ron Dayne, Chris Weinke, etc) considering the NCAA and NFL are two completely different games. And age? If you don't have the talent or the head for the position all age says is that you are younger. Lastly, considering VY is being asked to run the ball more than DG I'd argue that VY is playing a role that will more than likely cause him to be beaten on more often.

Fun thread though. 19 pages is quite noteworthy. I think it shows just how intense this rivalry is which is always a plus.[/quote]

RE: Vince Young getting ready for the season in Texas.......

JacksJags — Tue, 20 May 2008 10:36:46 GMT

[quote][b]Psychop1 (5/20/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]JacksJags (5/19/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Psychop1 (5/19/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]JacksJags (5/19/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Psychop1 (5/19/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Fargin (5/19/2008)[/b][hr]Copout? You cite Charlie Casserly, Floyd Reese and Wonderlic6's Agent. All had good reason to lie. Give me a credible source and I'll believe you. If that's the best you have then we're spinning our wheels here. I thought tack1 was the most delusional tack troll, but now I'm not so sure.[/quote]

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/draft/2006-03-01-young-wonderlic_x.htm

Now prove you're not full of ****. :D[/quote]

I do think the wonderlic is a joke in and of itself, but.....

A few profootballtalk.com articles I have posted you have gotten on me about the validity of the site as a whole.[/quote]

Not sure what your point here is. PFT broke the story to begin with (Young scoring a six on the wonderlic), only to have to apologize for misinformation later.[/quote]

The first "news source" in the 2nd article you posted was pft. And he did score a 6 the first "try"[/quote]

I didn't say you linked something from pft

RE: Vince Young getting ready for the season in Texas.......

40 — Tue, 20 May 2008 09:06:38 GMT

As noted earlier, this is starting to sound like a Matt Jones thread. I can appreciate someone disagreeing about who has a better upside (DG or VY) but to argue that collegiate success are the mitigating factors doesn't make sense (Ron Dayne, Chris Weinke, etc) considering the NCAA and NFL are two completely different games. And age? If you don't have the talent or the head for the position all age says is that you are younger. Lastly, considering VY is being asked to run the ball more than DG I'd argue that VY is playing a role that will more than likely cause him to be beaten on more often.

Fun thread though. 19 pages is quite noteworthy. I think it shows just how intense this rivalry is which is always a plus.

RE: Vince Young getting ready for the season in Texas.......

cunninghamj — Tue, 20 May 2008 08:54:13 GMT

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/draft/2006-03-01-young-wonderlic_x.htm

Now prove you're not full of ****. :D[/quote]

I do think the wonderlic is a joke in and of itself, but.....

A few profootballtalk.com articles I have posted you have gotten on me about the validity of the site as a whole.[/quote]

Not sure what your point here is. PFT broke the story to begin with (Young scoring a six on the wonderlic), only to have to apologize for misinformation later.[/quote]

The first "news source" in the 2nd article you posted was pft. And he did score a 6 the first "try"[/quote]

Spin it all you want....The NFL didnt want their golden boy to look like a dope in the public eye. Well he does, and his td/interception ratio just proves that he isnt smart enough to read an NFL defense.

RE: Vince Young getting ready for the season in Texas.......

Psychop1 — Tue, 20 May 2008 07:03:10 GMT

[quote][b]JacksJags (5/19/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Psychop1 (5/19/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]JacksJags (5/19/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Psychop1 (5/19/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Fargin (5/19/2008)[/b][hr]Copout? You cite Charlie Casserly, Floyd Reese and Wonderlic6's Agent. All had good reason to lie. Give me a credible source and I'll believe you. If that's the best you have then we're spinning our wheels here. I thought tack1 was the most delusional tack troll, but now I'm not so sure.[/quote]

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/draft/2006-03-01-young-wonderlic_x.htm

Now prove you're not full of ****. :D[/quote]

I do think the wonderlic is a joke in and of itself, but.....

A few profootballtalk.com articles I have posted you have gotten on me about the validity of the site as a whole.[/quote]

Not sure what your point here is. PFT broke the story to begin with (Young scoring a six on the wonderlic), only to have to apologize for misinformation later.[/quote]

The first "news source" in the 2nd article you posted was pft. And he did score a 6 the first "try"[/quote]

RE: Vince Young getting ready for the season in Texas.......

JacksJags — Tue, 20 May 2008 06:59:29 GMT

[quote][b]Psychop1 (5/20/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]JacksJags (5/19/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Psychop1 (5/19/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Fargin (5/19/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Psychop1 (5/19/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Fargin (5/19/2008)[/b][hr]Copout? You cite Charlie Casserly, Floyd Reese and Wonderlic6's Agent. All had good reason to lie. Give me a credible source and I'll believe you. If that's the best you have then we're spinning our wheels here. I thought tack1 was the most delusional tack troll, but now I'm not so sure.[/quote]

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/draft/2006-03-01-young-wonderlic_x.htm

Now prove you're not full of ****. :D[/quote]

So now you're gonna tell me he's a better QB than Garrard like your buddy tack 1, right? Shall I post the stats again or are you smart enough to go back and find them.[/quote]

Actually, no I won't, but Young hasn't fulfilled his potential yet either. I think his potential reaches farther than Garrard's. Just my opinion.[/quote]

Just curious, why....[/quote]

What do you want to know first, their collegiate achievements, or their age difference and current roles on their teams???[/quote]

Nevermind, I got my answer when you were going to compare collegiate achievements, you have to be kidding me.

RE: Vince Young getting ready for the season in Texas.......

Psychop1 — Tue, 20 May 2008 06:53:49 GMT

[quote][b]JacksJags (5/19/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Psychop1 (5/19/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Fargin (5/19/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Psychop1 (5/19/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Fargin (5/19/2008)[/b][hr]Copout? You cite Charlie Casserly, Floyd Reese and Wonderlic6's Agent. All had good reason to lie. Give me a credible source and I'll believe you. If that's the best you have then we're spinning our wheels here. I thought tack1 was the most delusional tack troll, but now I'm not so sure.[/quote]

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/draft/2006-03-01-young-wonderlic_x.htm

Now prove you're not full of ****. :D[/quote]

So now you're gonna tell me he's a better QB than Garrard like your buddy tack 1, right? Shall I post the stats again or are you smart enough to go back and find them.[/quote]

Actually, no I won't, but Young hasn't fulfilled his potential yet either. I think his potential reaches farther than Garrard's. Just my opinion.[/quote]

Just curious, why....[/quote]

What do you want to know first, their collegiate achievements, or their age difference and current roles on their teams???

RE: Vince Young getting ready for the season in Texas.......

JacksJags — Mon, 19 May 2008 22:15:09 GMT

[quote][b]Psychop1 (5/19/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Fargin (5/19/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Psychop1 (5/19/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Fargin (5/19/2008)[/b][hr]Copout? You cite Charlie Casserly, Floyd Reese and Wonderlic6's Agent. All had good reason to lie. Give me a credible source and I'll believe you. If that's the best you have then we're spinning our wheels here. I thought tack1 was the most delusional tack troll, but now I'm not so sure.[/quote]

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/draft/2006-03-01-young-wonderlic_x.htm

Now prove you're not full of ****. :D[/quote]

So now you're gonna tell me he's a better QB than Garrard like your buddy tack 1, right? Shall I post the stats again or are you smart enough to go back and find them.[/quote]

Actually, no I won't, but Young hasn't fulfilled his potential yet either. I think his potential reaches farther than Garrard's. Just my opinion.[/quote]

Just curious, why....

RE: Vince Young getting ready for the season in Texas.......

JacksJags — Mon, 19 May 2008 22:14:46 GMT

[quote][b]Psychop1 (5/19/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]JacksJags (5/19/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Psychop1 (5/19/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Fargin (5/19/2008)[/b][hr]Copout? You cite Charlie Casserly, Floyd Reese and Wonderlic6's Agent. All had good reason to lie. Give me a credible source and I'll believe you. If that's the best you have then we're spinning our wheels here. I thought tack1 was the most delusional tack troll, but now I'm not so sure.[/quote]

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/draft/2006-03-01-young-wonderlic_x.htm

Now prove you're not full of ****. :D[/quote]

I do think the wonderlic is a joke in and of itself, but.....

A few profootballtalk.com articles I have posted you have gotten on me about the validity of the site as a whole.[/quote]

Not sure what your point here is. PFT broke the story to begin with (Young scoring a six on the wonderlic), only to have to apologize for misinformation later.[/quote]

The first "news source" in the 2nd article you posted was pft. And he did score a 6 the first "try"

RE: Vince Young getting ready for the season in Texas.......

Psychop1 — Mon, 19 May 2008 22:07:42 GMT

[quote][b]Fargin (5/19/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Psychop1 (5/19/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Fargin (5/19/2008)[/b][hr]Copout? You cite Charlie Casserly, Floyd Reese and Wonderlic6's Agent. All had good reason to lie. Give me a credible source and I'll believe you. If that's the best you have then we're spinning our wheels here. I thought tack1 was the most delusional tack troll, but now I'm not so sure.[/quote]

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/draft/2006-03-01-young-wonderlic_x.htm

Now prove you're not full of ****. :D[/quote]

So now you're gonna tell me he's a better QB than Garrard like your buddy tack 1, right? Shall I post the stats again or are you smart enough to go back and find them.[/quote]

Actually, no I won't, but Young hasn't fulfilled his potential yet either. I think his potential reaches farther than Garrard's. Just my opinion.

RE: Vince Young getting ready for the season in Texas.......

Psychop1 — Mon, 19 May 2008 22:03:19 GMT

[quote][b]JacksJags (5/19/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Psychop1 (5/19/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Fargin (5/19/2008)[/b][hr]Copout? You cite Charlie Casserly, Floyd Reese and Wonderlic6's Agent. All had good reason to lie. Give me a credible source and I'll believe you. If that's the best you have then we're spinning our wheels here. I thought tack1 was the most delusional tack troll, but now I'm not so sure.[/quote]

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/draft/2006-03-01-young-wonderlic_x.htm

Now prove you're not full of ****. :D[/quote]

I do think the wonderlic is a joke in and of itself, but.....

A few profootballtalk.com articles I have posted you have gotten on me about the validity of the site as a whole.[/quote]

Not sure what your point here is. PFT broke the story to begin with (Young scoring a six on the wonderlic), only to have to apologize for misinformation later.

RE: Vince Young getting ready for the season in Texas.......

JacksJags — Mon, 19 May 2008 21:02:29 GMT

[quote][b]Psychop1 (5/19/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Fargin (5/19/2008)[/b][hr]Copout? You cite Charlie Casserly, Floyd Reese and Wonderlic6's Agent. All had good reason to lie. Give me a credible source and I'll believe you. If that's the best you have then we're spinning our wheels here. I thought tack1 was the most delusional tack troll, but now I'm not so sure.[/quote]

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/draft/2006-03-01-young-wonderlic_x.htm

Now prove you're not full of ****. :D[/quote]

I do think the wonderlic is a joke in and of itself, but.....

A few profootballtalk.com articles I have posted you have gotten on me about the validity of the site as a whole.

RE: Vince Young getting ready for the season in Texas.......

JacksJags — Mon, 19 May 2008 21:00:27 GMT

[quote][b]Psychop1 (5/19/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Stigma (5/19/2008)[/b][hr]After watching the rematch game between the Jags and Titans in 2007, I can understand all the hype surrounding Vince Young. I can also understand how the networks wanted to feature Vince Young on Thanksgiving.

I personally don't think that Vince Young will ever be a GREAT QB, but he is the closest thing to Michael Vick and he is entertaining to watch.[/quote]

That game was pretty ugly, even though Vince did have over 300 yards of offense in that game. Then again, he was playing on, as he did most of the season, an injured quadricep on the leg he throws off of. Our depleted O-Line and D-Line had nothing to do with it either. :P[/quote]

Injuries are the worst excuse in football, any level. Every team plays with them, period.

RE: Vince Young getting ready for the season in Texas.......

Utopia — Mon, 19 May 2008 20:56:13 GMT

B......B.......But he just wins games.:LOL:

RE: Vince Young getting ready for the season in Texas.......

Fargin — Mon, 19 May 2008 20:49:49 GMT

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/draft/2006-03-01-young-wonderlic_x.htm

Now prove you're not full of ****. :D[/quote]

So now you're gonna tell me he's a better QB than Garrard like your buddy tack 1, right? Shall I post the stats again or are you smart enough to go back and find them.