﻿<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"><channel><title>jaguars.com Message Board / Football / The Jaguars  / I can't imagine / Latest Posts</title><generator>InstantForum.NET v4.1.4</generator><description>jaguars.com Message Board</description><link>http://mb.jaguars.com/</link><webMaster>webmaster@jaguars.com</webMaster><lastBuildDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 02:33:42 GMT</lastBuildDate><ttl>20</ttl><item><title>RE: I can't imagine</title><link>http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic659374-6-1.aspx</link><description>[quote][b]INT (10/28/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]The Mad Dog (10/28/2008)[/b][hr]how many eat crow posts of "your boy Phil Savage's Browns couldn't beat Harris' Jags, had the Jags won that game. &lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;I'm not making this post with the intent of making others eat crow, but pointing out the double standard that when the shoe is on the other foot, nary a peep from the same people. &lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&amp;amp; I know you would have done it.....just look at all the Quentin Moses referensces/ posts I still see thrown in my direction,. &lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Phil Savage is a better GM than James Harris, and lets leave it at that and put that to rest.  [/quote]&lt;P&gt;So lemme get this straight. You're getting all high and mighty about the possibility that Jaguars fans would have bashed you about Phil Savage had the Jaguars won by using the win as an excuse to bash, yet what are you doing now that the Browns have won? Bashing Shack Harris because the Jaguars have lost, using it as an excuse to bash.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;TMD: Greek God of Irony and Hypocrisy[/quote]&lt;P&gt;Anything that refers to the whimp and Greek in the same sentence makes him giddy like a school girl.</description><pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 01:00:56 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>FBT</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: I can't imagine</title><link>http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic659374-6-1.aspx</link><description>[quote][b]The Mad Dog (10/28/2008)[/b][hr]how many eat crow posts of "your boy Phil Savage's Browns couldn't beat Harris' Jags, had the Jags won that game. &lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;I'm not making this post with the intent of making others eat crow, but pointing out the double standard that when the shoe is on the other foot, nary a peep from the same people. &lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&amp;amp; I know you would have done it.....just look at all the Quentin Moses referensces/ posts I still see thrown in my direction,. &lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Phil Savage is a better GM than James Harris, and lets leave it at that and put that to rest.  [/quote]&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;How much crow have you eaten after finding out that Quinn Gray had to buy a ticket to attend a Jaguar game this year?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;How much crow have you eaten for declaring Mike Walker a bust.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;You're a pathetic joke.  Keep trying to pat yourself on the back.   We're all just laughing at the pathetic drag hag sitting on a barstool at Neil &amp;amp; Bob's trying to figure out how to get people to like him/her.  Maybe you need to massage your schtick.</description><pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 00:59:59 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>FBT</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: I can't imagine</title><link>http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic659374-6-1.aspx</link><description>[quote][b]The Mad Dog (10/28/2008)[/b][hr]how many eat crow posts of "your boy Phil Savage's Browns couldn't beat Harris' Jags, had the Jags won that game. &lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;I'm not making this post with the intent of making others eat crow, but pointing out the double standard that when the shoe is on the other foot, nary a peep from the same people. &lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&amp;amp; I know you would have done it.....just look at all the Quentin Moses referensces/ posts I still see thrown in my direction,. &lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Phil Savage is a better GM than James Harris, and lets leave it at that and put that to rest.  [/quote]&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So lemme get this straight. You're getting all high and mighty about the possibility that Jaguars fans would have bashed you about Phil Savage had the Jaguars won by using the win as an excuse to bash, yet what are you doing now that the Browns have won? Bashing Shack Harris because the Jaguars have lost, using it as an excuse to bash.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;TMD: Greek God of Irony and Hypocrisy</description><pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 22:38:45 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>INT</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: I can't imagine</title><link>http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic659374-6-1.aspx</link><description>[quote][b]DiegoRainerio27 (10/28/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Krayz_Jville_D (10/28/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Steelo (10/28/2008)[/b][hr]Phil Savage turned down 2 first round draft picks from the Vikings for Brady Quinn.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;nuff said.[/quote]&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;This post sums it all up............................................[/quote]&lt;P&gt;Worse than that, he traded two firsts to get quinn! Then traded his draft away for temporary fixes to what he already skrewed up..[/quote]&lt;P&gt;And he jumped the gun on resigning Derek Anderson...&lt;P&gt;Of course, I'm sure those who convneiently ignore that criticized the FO for signing Garrard too soon.</description><pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:50:46 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>SamusAranX</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: I can't imagine</title><link>http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic659374-6-1.aspx</link><description>[quote][b]Krayz_Jville_D (10/28/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Steelo (10/28/2008)[/b][hr]Phil Savage turned down 2 first round draft picks from the Vikings for Brady Quinn.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;nuff said.[/quote]&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;This post sums it all up............................................[/quote]&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Worse than that, he traded two firsts to get quinn! Then traded his draft away for temporary fixes to what he already skrewed up..</description><pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:46:37 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>DiegoRainerio27</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: I can't imagine</title><link>http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic659374-6-1.aspx</link><description>^Insane lol Quinn is not worth that.</description><pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:44:05 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>WVsNumeber1WR</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: I can't imagine</title><link>http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic659374-6-1.aspx</link><description>[quote][b]Steelo (10/28/2008)[/b][hr]Phil Savage turned down 2 first round draft picks from the Vikings for Brady Quinn.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;nuff said.[/quote]&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This post sums it all up............................................</description><pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:36:00 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Krayz_Jville_D</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: I can't imagine</title><link>http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic659374-6-1.aspx</link><description>[quote][b]Kramer (10/28/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]The Mad Dog (10/28/2008)[/b][hr]how many eat crow posts of "your boy Phil Savage's Browns couldn't beat Harris' Jags, had the Jags won that game. &lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;I'm not making this post with the intent of making others eat crow, but pointing out the double standard that when the shoe is on the other foot, nary a peep from the same people. &lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&amp;amp; I know you would have done it.....just look at all the Quentin Moses referensces/ posts I still see thrown in my direction,. &lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Phil Savage is a better GM than James Harris, and lets leave it at that and put that to rest.  [/quote]&lt;P&gt;Hm while I don't think that it is easy to call GMs better than each other and I think that the comparisons themselves are a waste of time, I really have to give it up to you.  You were right about almost everything you said.  You predicted the poor performance by Jerry Porter, &lt;STRONG&gt;the overrated and overpayed Drayton Florence, and you called the Derrick Harvey fail of a pick&lt;/STRONG&gt;.  I thought you were a negative, anti-fan, reversehomer when in reality, I was the one drunk off my *** with teal colored Kool-Aid. [/quote]&lt;P&gt;Don't give him too much credit. Florence isn't playing horribly; Harvey is just a rookie.</description><pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:31:07 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>SamusAranX</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: I can't imagine</title><link>http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic659374-6-1.aspx</link><description>^It's their rookie year, they need to find their own way.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Mario Williams needed time, Reggie Bush, Ted Ginn Jr., etc...&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;They will come around and when they do, we will have two of the nastiest youngest DEs in the league.</description><pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:29:05 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>WVsNumeber1WR</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: I can't imagine</title><link>http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic659374-6-1.aspx</link><description>Savage isn't even in the same league as Shack. The two shouldn't be compared. Savage has had only season above .500, and that was as deLight said earlier one of the weakest schedules the league has ever seen. &lt;P&gt;But hey, I'll pull a TMD and use a mere one game to prove my point. Savage's Browns lost to the Raiders last year. The Jags blew them out 49-11. Therefore, Shack&amp;gt;Savage.  </description><pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:28:25 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>SamusAranX</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: I can't imagine</title><link>http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic659374-6-1.aspx</link><description>[quote][b]The Mad Dog (10/28/2008)[/b][hr]how many eat crow posts of "your boy Phil Savage's Browns couldn't beat Harris' Jags, had the Jags won that game. &lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;I'm not making this post with the intent of making others eat crow, but pointing out the double standard that when the shoe is on the other foot, nary a peep from the same people. &lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&amp;amp; I know you would have done it.....just look at all the Quentin Moses referensces/ posts I still see thrown in my direction,. &lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Phil Savage is a better GM than James Harris, and lets leave it at that and put that to rest.  [/quote]&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hm while I don't think that it is easy to call GMs better than each other and I think that the comparisons themselves are a waste of time, I really have to give it up to you.  You were right about almost everything you said.  You predicted the poor performance by Jerry Porter, the overrated and overpayed Drayton Florence, and you called the Derrick Harvey fail of a pick.  I thought you were a negative, anti-fan, reversehomer when in reality, I was the one drunk off my *** with teal colored Kool-Aid. </description><pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:26:07 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Kramer</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: I can't imagine</title><link>http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic659374-6-1.aspx</link><description>Phil Savage turned down 2 first round draft picks from the Vikings for Brady Quinn.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;nuff said.</description><pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:08:06 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Steelo</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: I can't imagine</title><link>http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic659374-6-1.aspx</link><description>[quote][b]The Mad Dog (10/28/2008)[/b][hr]how many eat crow posts of "your boy Phil Savage's Browns couldn't beat Harris' Jags, had the Jags won that game.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I'm not making this post with the intent of making others eat crow, but pointing out the double standard that when the shoe is on the other foot, nary a peep from the same people.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;amp; I know you would have done it.....just look at all the Quentin Moses referensces/ posts I still see thrownin my direction,. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Phil Savage is a better GM than James Harris, and lets leave it at that and put that to rest. [/quote]&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I was unaware that Phil Savage blocked a FG and deflected a last second pass to Matt Jones with his helmet last sunday... &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;also who was posting that he wasn't better b/c he couldn't beat the Jags and when since I never recall that especially since this is the first time we've played the Browns in 2 years...</description><pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:00:26 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Firesky</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: I can't imagine</title><link>http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic659374-6-1.aspx</link><description>[quote][b]Buckethead (10/28/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]rollerjag (10/28/2008)[/b][hr]It's a [color="red"]moot[/color] point. Phil Savage could've had the Jaguars GM job, but Weaver was afraid to turn total control, which Savage wanted, over to one man, after his experiences withCoughlin. Savage turned Weaver down, and until the Browns win a playoff game under his regime, he's just another NFL GM chasing a dream.Any Savage vs. Harris comparisons are just for dead horse abusers.[/quote]It's a [b][i]mute[/i][/b] point.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Sheesh, learn some grammer.[/quote]&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Yeah, but for all intensive purposes, it's just a message board. Don't be obsurd. :P</description><pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 20:33:25 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Utopia</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: I can't imagine</title><link>http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic659374-6-1.aspx</link><description>[quote][b]deLiGHT (10/28/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]The Mad Dog (10/28/2008)[/b][hr]how many eat crow posts of "your boy Phil Savage's Browns couldn't beat Harris' Jags, had the Jags won that game.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;I'm not making this post with the intent of making others eat crow, but pointing out the double standard that when the shoe is on the other foot, nary a peep from the same people.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&amp;amp; I know you would have done it.....just look at all the Quentin Moses referensces/ posts I still see thrownin my direction,. &lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Phil Savage is a better GM than James Harris, and lets leave it at that and put that to rest. [/quote]&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Phil Savage is picking in the top 10 every year. His team went 10-6 last year on the weakest schedule you've ever seen (only ONE win against a team over .500, and it was the seahawks 33-30).&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;When was the last time Savage picked a good player that wasn't the overall consensus #1 at his position? (must be easy to hit on picks when you're in the top 10 every year, and every player you take is the consensus #1 for that position).&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;case closed.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Do you not realize how much browns fans hate Savage?[/quote]&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Not to agree or disagree with anyone here but Savage did pull off the trade for Shaun Rogers who was someone with character/motor issues and that paid off nicely on Sunday.</description><pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 20:32:16 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>opjagfan91</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: I can't imagine</title><link>http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic659374-6-1.aspx</link><description>[quote][b]rollerjag (10/28/2008)[/b][hr]It's a [color="red"]moot[/color] point. Phil Savage could've had the Jaguars GM job, but Weaver was afraid to turn total control, which Savage wanted, over to one man, after his experiences withCoughlin. Savage turned Weaver down, and until the Browns win a playoff game under his regime, he's just another NFL GM chasing a dream.Any Savage vs. Harris comparisons are just for dead horse abusers.[/quote]It's a [b][i]mute[/i][/b] point.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sheesh, learn some grammer.</description><pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 20:29:43 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Buckethead</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: I can't imagine</title><link>http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic659374-6-1.aspx</link><description>It's a moot point. Phil Savage could've had the Jaguars GM job, but Weaver was afraid to turn total control, which Savage wanted, over to one man, after his experiences with Coughlin. Savage turned Weaver down, and until the Browns win a playoff game under his regime, he's just another NFL GM chasing a dream. Any Savage vs. Harris comparisons are just for dead horse abusers.</description><pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:13:10 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>rollerjag</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: I can't imagine</title><link>http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic659374-6-1.aspx</link><description>[quote][b]The Mad Dog (10/28/2008)[/b][hr]how many eat crow posts of "your boy Phil Savage's Browns couldn't beat Harris' Jags, had the Jags won that game. &lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;I'm not making this post with the intent of making others eat crow, but pointing out the double standard that when the shoe is on the other foot, nary a peep from the same people. &lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&amp;amp; I know you would have done it.....just look at all the Quentin Moses referensces/ posts I still see thrown in my direction,. &lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Phil Savage is a better GM than James Harris, and lets leave it at that and put that to rest.  [/quote]LOL, Harris signs turds, drafts turds. Congratulations. If you think that game proves anything about GM's you are insane.</description><pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:04:10 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>JacksJags</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: I can't imagine</title><link>http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic659374-6-1.aspx</link><description>I would have stuck with Poliwhine, dog. At least he has a playoff win with his current regime.</description><pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:59:54 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Utopia</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: I can't imagine</title><link>http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic659374-6-1.aspx</link><description>[quote][b]The Mad Dog (10/28/2008)[/b][hr]how many eat crow posts of "your boy Phil Savage's Browns couldn't beat Harris' Jags, had the Jags won that game.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I'm not making this post with the intent of making others eat crow, but pointing out the double standard that when the shoe is on the other foot, nary a peep from the same people.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;amp; I know you would have done it.....just look at all the Quentin Moses referensces/ posts I still see thrownin my direction,. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Phil Savage is a better GM than James Harris, and lets leave it at that and put that to rest. [/quote]&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Phil Savage is picking in the top 10 every year. His team went 10-6 last year on the weakest schedule you've ever seen (only ONE win against a team over .500, and it was the seahawks 33-30).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;When was the last time Savage picked a good player that wasn't the overall consensus #1 at his position? (must be easy to hit on picks when you're in the top 10 every year, and every player you take is the consensus #1 for that position).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;case closed.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Do you not realize how much browns fans hate Savage?</description><pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:58:07 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>deLiGHT</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: I can't imagine</title><link>http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic659374-6-1.aspx</link><description>::Yawn::</description><pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:57:46 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Joe Six-Pack</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: I can't imagine</title><link>http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic659374-6-1.aspx</link><description>I can imagine...it would've been like when MJ got busted after OTA's. The whole front page would've been threads that all said the same thing.</description><pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:47:18 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Young Esco</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: I can't imagine</title><link>http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic659374-6-1.aspx</link><description>Thank Jebus for TMD!!!</description><pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:45:29 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>mcol126</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: I can't imagine</title><link>http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic659374-6-1.aspx</link><description>[quote][b]The Mad Dog (10/28/2008)[/b][hr]how many eat crow posts of "your boy Phil Savage's Browns couldn't beat Harris' Jags, had the Jags won that game.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I'm not making this post with the intent of making others eat crow, but pointing out the double standard that when the shoe is on the other foot, nary a peep from the same people.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;amp; I know you would have done it.....just look at all the Quentin Moses referensces/ posts I still see thrownin my direction,. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Phil Savage is a better GM than James Harris, and lets leave it at that and put that to rest. [/quote]&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;No offense to ya TMD but I don't know how to respond to this.</description><pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:37:03 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>innerJAG</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: I can't imagine</title><link>http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic659374-6-1.aspx</link><description>[quote][b]The Mad Dog (10/28/2008)[/b][hr]how many eat crow posts of "your boy Phil Savage's Browns couldn't beat Harris' Jags, had the Jags won that game. &lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;I'm not making this post with the intent of making others eat crow, but pointing out the double standard that when the shoe is on the other foot, nary a peep from the same people. &lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&amp;amp; I know you would have done it.....just look at all the Quentin Moses referensces/ posts I still see thrown in my direction,. &lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Phil Savage is a better GM than James Harris, and lets leave it at that and put that to rest.  [/quote]&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;:spam:</description><pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:36:58 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Jagwads 96</dc:creator></item><item><title>I can't imagine</title><link>http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic659374-6-1.aspx</link><description>how many eat crow posts of "your boy Phil Savage's Browns couldn't beat Harris' Jags, had the Jags won that game. &lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;I'm not making this post with the intent of making others eat crow, but pointing out the double standard that when the shoe is on the other foot, nary a peep from the same people. &lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&amp;amp; I know you would have done it.....just look at all the Quentin Moses referensces/ posts I still see thrown in my direction,. &lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Phil Savage is a better GM than James Harris, and lets leave it at that and put that to rest.  </description><pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:30:09 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>The Mad Dog</dc:creator></item></channel></rss>