﻿<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"><channel><title>jaguars.com Message Board / Football / The Jaguars  / Drew Miller / Latest Posts</title><generator>InstantForum.NET v4.1.4</generator><description>jaguars.com Message Board</description><link>http://mb.jaguars.com/</link><webMaster>webmaster@jaguars.com</webMaster><lastBuildDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 08:19:52 GMT</lastBuildDate><ttl>20</ttl><item><title>RE: Drew Miller</title><link>http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic568792-6-1.aspx</link><description>[quote][b]TheSpacePope (8/8/2008)[/b][hr]Gaytors are all whiney little girls once you say something bad about one of their players either past or present.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;It's pathetic, really. Grow some testicles Gator fans![/quote]&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;you're just another hater...&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;GATOR BAIT &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO</description><pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 15:17:53 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>jj82284</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: Drew Miller</title><link>http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic568792-6-1.aspx</link><description>Gaytors are all whiney little girls once you say something bad about one of their players either past or present.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It's pathetic, really. Grow some testicles Gator fans!</description><pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 15:08:23 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>TheSpacePope</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: Drew Miller</title><link>http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic568792-6-1.aspx</link><description>[quote][b]Alfie (8/8/2008)[/b][hr]Because you win? Didn't you lose 4 games last year? Haven't you only won 2 national titles in 100 years of existence?&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;It's nothing to do with envy, it's to do with [b]REALISM[/b].&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Do you want to argue about how Leak will be an NFL QB again, or did the "envy" finally succomb you to reality?&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Now, I have no clue where you're reading he looks great. He's looked average, at best.[/quote]&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;vic said that he has looked good.  i am not disputing your input because i was not their.  &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;and we have won 2 in the last ten years, and we are poised to make another run this year.  while the history is still being built, the current tide is gaining a lot of strength.  &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;and i may have been slightly mistaken about Chris leaks value as a BACKUP nfl QB.  but that does not quell the breeze of the modern times that is the sheer unmittigated dominance of florida football.</description><pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 14:42:12 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>jj82284</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: Drew Miller</title><link>http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic568792-6-1.aspx</link><description>Because you win? Didn't you lose 4 games last year? Haven't you only won 2 national titles in 100 years of existence?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It's nothing to do with envy, it's to do with [b]REALISM[/b].&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Do you want to argue about how Leak will be an NFL QB again, or did the "envy" finally succomb you to reality?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now, I have no clue where you're reading he looks great. He's looked average, at best.</description><pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 10:29:40 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Alfie</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: Drew Miller</title><link>http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic568792-6-1.aspx</link><description>[quote][b]Alfie (8/7/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]jj82284 (8/7/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Stigma (8/2/2008)[/b][hr]&lt;FONT size=3&gt;From what JDR has said, it appears that Meester will NOT be going on IR, so he will be taking up a roster spot even though he will not be able to play. Keeping Drew Miller while keeping a roster spot open for Brad Meester seems to me to be committing too much to the Center position. Accordingly, I would assume that Drew Miller is a long shot to make this roster unless Nwaneri or Norman go down with an injury placing one of them on the IR.&lt;/FONT&gt;[/quote]&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;well how many lineman do you think that we are really going to keep and how commited do you think that we are to dennis norman. &lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;when you look at miller, he is a starting center in the top confrence in the country won a national championship and put up the bar what 34 times. the kid comes in and can pay. any other year he would have probably been taken in the first four rounds on that alone. this is the wierdest draft that any of us have seen. i think that miller has potential to be a starting caliber center/guard in this league and norman is older and more expensive. &lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;i think that nwaneri has a great shot in the short term and the long term, but miller to me represents a more realistic solution down the line for meester because nwaneri is going to eventually inherit the guard spot opposite manuwai.[/quote]&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;He also went [b]undrafted[/b].&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Sorry, not ever player who plays at Florida or in the SEC is an NFL player. You're going to have to get over that.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Norman is 10x the player Miller is right now. Miller's shot on the team is slim, considering he's looked terrible once the pads went on.[/quote]&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I hadn't heard that.  i had heard nothing but good things about the kid.  if you have more information than i do about his performance in pads then i concede and let the preseason dictate because i have been up to my knees in work for a while now.  &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;and alfie, we are really going to have to talk about this gator envy.  don't hate us because we win.  its not our fault.  we just have better players.  we had an off year last year, but don't worry.  we will give all the haters out there plenty more bulletin material when we win the SEC AGAIN and play for a national championship... AGAIN.</description><pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 09:15:13 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>jj82284</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: Drew Miller</title><link>http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic568792-6-1.aspx</link><description>[quote][b]Chooch (8/7/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]jj82284 (8/7/2008)[/b][hr]I can feel you on that chooch, but if the guy is out of the way, the guy is out of the way. at the center spot the biggest thing is getting the line calls and being athletic enough to get to the second level. very rarely are you going to be head up with a 350 pound two gap nose tackle anymore in this league. i know that he has the strength and getting around this environment will help anyone with their mean streak.[/quote]&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;I see where you are coming from JJ, but you have to know that if you are going to the playoffs in the AFC, you can bet the house that you are going to have to face either Casey Hampton (Pittsburgh), Jamal Williams (San Diego) or Vince Wilfork (New England), and those aren't guys that you can just "get out of the way." Those are big, strong guys that eat up space and can wreak all kinds of havoc on an Offense.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Again, I'm not saying that Miller can't play with these guys, but that he can't play with them [i]right now[/i].[/quote]&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;1.)excellent post.  very well explained, concise, and to the point.  i tip my hat to you on that. &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;2.) you are absolutely right.  at some point you are going to have to have a mean streak, and i never really thought about how many top teams are actually running the 3-4 with dominant nose tackles.  &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;3.)I know that the kid is strong.  i know that he did over 30 reps at the combine and has a great work ethic.  playing in this camp he is going to have to go against kennedy, meier, hen, and mcdaniel.  playing against those guys you are going to have a great look at what he is going to be able to do against the bigger gus in the playoffs.  the depth on this team at DT helps give you a look at the future prospects of interior offensive linemen because tey get to practice and be evaluated against one of the best defensive lines in the league.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;4.)maybe one or two centers coming out of college can hang anywhere close with pro bowl nose tackles RIGHT NOW.  any time you look at a rookie there has to be a lot of projection.  i think a kid with his strength and intelligence projects well enough to the center spot that you can take a flyer on a roster spot if he proves himself in camp.  but if he is getting pushed out of the point of attack by our front line guys then it will tell on itself.</description><pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 09:12:49 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>jj82284</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: Drew Miller</title><link>http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic568792-6-1.aspx</link><description>[quote][b]Josh83 (8/7/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]jagutopia (8/7/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Josh83 (8/7/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b].JagMan. (8/6/2008)[/b][hr]In response to the guy who posted that Jack has already said Drew will make the roster, that's not true, Jack said that Drew has proven to be much more than a camp body.[/quote]&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;U&gt;&lt;FONT size=3&gt;Jesus H. Christ does everyone on this board look for any reason to pick apart each other's posts.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt; That's not the quote I was thinking of, but what do you think Jack is insinuating with that? Does anybody really think Miller won't make the team? Many scouts predicted Miller would be drafted and I think we really got lucky he wasn't. This really kind of makes up for one of the pick we lost.&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;U&gt;&lt;FONT size=3&gt; I don't know how Mad Dog still can't get it through his fat head that Shack and the rest of our management are not only good talent evaluators, but probably top 5 in the league behind maybe Indy, Baltimore, NE, and maybe Dallas&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;. NY is up there too I would think.[/quote]&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Hypocrite much?[/quote]How is that hypocritical? I'm sticking up for the people on this board and for our management, I'm not picking apart every thing he or anybody else is saying. Mad Dog continuousy criticizes our team and everyone else for their opinions. Where have you been?[/quote]&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'm around. What I was getting at was the fact that you started your post criticizing posters for bashing each other. And then you followed that up (in the very same post, mind you) by doing the exact thing that you were just complaining about. See now?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Look, I'm not sticking up for TMD. He is what he is. It was more about you being on both sides of the fence. It's not a real big deal, though. Let's not make it one.</description><pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 22:26:31 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Utopia</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: Drew Miller</title><link>http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic568792-6-1.aspx</link><description>[quote][b]jagutopia (8/7/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Josh83 (8/7/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b].JagMan. (8/6/2008)[/b][hr]In response to the guy who posted that Jack has already said Drew will make the roster, that's not true, Jack said that Drew has proven to be much more than a camp body.[/quote]&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;U&gt;&lt;FONT size=3&gt;Jesus H. Christ does everyone on this board look for any reason to pick apart each other's posts.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt; That's not the quote I was thinking of, but what do you think Jack is insinuating with that? Does anybody really think Miller won't make the team? Many scouts predicted Miller would be drafted and I think we really got lucky he wasn't. This really kind of makes up for one of the pick we lost.&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;U&gt;&lt;FONT size=3&gt; I don't know how Mad Dog still can't get it through his fat head that Shack and the rest of our management are not only good talent evaluators, but probably top 5 in the league behind maybe Indy, Baltimore, NE, and maybe Dallas&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;. NY is up there too I would think.[/quote]&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hypocrite much?[/quote]How is that hypocritical? I'm sticking up for the people on this board and for our management, I'm not picking apart every thing he or anybody else is saying.  Mad Dog continuousy criticizes our team and everyone else for their opinions.  Where have you been?</description><pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 22:16:25 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Josh83</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: Drew Miller</title><link>http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic568792-6-1.aspx</link><description>[quote][b]jj82284 (8/7/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Stigma (8/2/2008)[/b][hr]&lt;FONT size=3&gt;From what JDR has said, it appears that Meester will NOT be going on IR, so he will be taking up a roster spot even though he will not be able to play. Keeping Drew Miller while keeping a roster spot open for Brad Meester seems to me to be committing too much to the Center position. Accordingly, I would assume that Drew Miller is a long shot to make this roster unless Nwaneri or Norman go down with an injury placing one of them on the IR.&lt;/FONT&gt;[/quote]&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;well how many lineman do you think that we are really going to keep and how commited do you think that we are to dennis norman. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;when you look at miller, he is a starting center in the top confrence in the country won a national championship and put up the bar what 34 times. the kid comes in and can pay. any other year he would have probably been taken in the first four rounds on that alone. this is the wierdest draft that any of us have seen. i think that miller has potential to be a starting caliber center/guard in this league and norman is older and more expensive. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;i think that nwaneri has a great shot in the short term and the long term, but miller to me represents a more realistic solution down the line for meester because nwaneri is going to eventually inherit the guard spot opposite manuwai.[/quote]&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;He also went [b]undrafted[/b].&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sorry, not ever player who plays at Florida or in the SEC is an NFL player. You're going to have to get over that.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Norman is 10x the player Miller is right now. Miller's shot on the team is slim, considering he's looked terrible once the pads went on.</description><pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 17:03:14 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Alfie</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: Drew Miller</title><link>http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic568792-6-1.aspx</link><description>[quote][b]jj82284 (8/7/2008)[/b][hr]I can feel you on that chooch, but if the guy is out of the way, the guy is out of the way. at the center spot the biggest thing is getting the line calls and being athletic enough to get to the second level. very rarely are you going to be head up with a 350 pound two gap nose tackle anymore in this league. i know that he has the strength and getting around this environment will help anyone with their mean streak.[/quote]&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I see where you are coming from JJ, but you have to know that if you are going to the playoffs in the AFC, you can bet the house that you are going to have to face either Casey Hampton (Pittsburgh), Jamal Williams (San Diego) or Vince Wilfork (New England), and those aren't guys that you can just "get out of the way." Those are big, strong guys that eat up space and can wreak all kinds of havoc on an Offense.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Again, I'm not saying that Miller can't play with these guys, but that he can't play with them [i]right now[/i].</description><pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 12:31:44 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Chooch</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: Drew Miller</title><link>http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic568792-6-1.aspx</link><description>[quote][b]Josh83 (8/7/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b].JagMan. (8/6/2008)[/b][hr]In response to the guy who posted that Jack has already said Drew will make the roster, that's not true, Jack said that Drew has proven to be much more than a camp body.[/quote]&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;U&gt;&lt;FONT size=3&gt;Jesus H. Christ does everyone on this board look for any reason to pick apart each other's posts.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt; That's not the quote I was thinking of, but what do you think Jack is insinuating with that? Does anybody really think Miller won't make the team? Many scouts predicted Miller would be drafted and I think we really got lucky he wasn't. This really kind of makes up for one of the pick we lost.&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;U&gt;&lt;FONT size=3&gt; I don't know how Mad Dog still can't get it through his fat head that Shack and the rest of our management are not only good talent evaluators, but probably top 5 in the league behind maybe Indy, Baltimore, NE, and maybe Dallas&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;. NY is up there too I would think.[/quote]&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hypocrite much?</description><pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 12:20:50 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Utopia</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: Drew Miller</title><link>http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic568792-6-1.aspx</link><description>I can feel you on that chooch, but if the guy is out of the way, the guy is out of the way.  at the center spot the biggest thing is getting the line calls and being athletic enough to get to the second level.  very rarely are you going to be head up with a 350 pound two gap nose tackle anymore in this league.  i know that he has the strength and getting around this environment will help anyone with their mean streak.</description><pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 10:14:35 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>jj82284</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: Drew Miller</title><link>http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic568792-6-1.aspx</link><description>The thing that I think D. Miller does not have and that he needs  to work on/develop to be a significant member of the Offensive Line is he is not a mauler. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;He seems to be (from the games that I watched of him last season) a pretty good technician, but he doesn't crush people the way that B. Meester has shown. If there is one thing about this team's Offensive Line, it is that they are big, tough, strong, maulers. For crying out loud, we turned a RT into a RG last season and arguably got better. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I am not saying that Miller can't develop that ability, but it doesn't seem like he has that specific tool in his hip pocket just yet.</description><pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 10:06:53 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Chooch</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: Drew Miller</title><link>http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic568792-6-1.aspx</link><description>[quote][b]Josh83 (8/3/2008)[/b][hr]I really wouldn't be surprised if Drew Miller is the future center for the Jags. With the injury trend that Meester has been following, that could be the near future. Meester is also 31 years old with a lot of wear and tear. I'm really surprised Miller wasn't drafted in the first place, but it worked out for us, and Jack even said he'll make the team. They are also both the same size, and hopefully Meester's work ethic in the weight room will rub off. They are also both very intelligent with great educational backgrounds, a key for that position. I'd say this could work out perfectly for Miller, giving him at least a couple of years to be groomed before Meester retires.[/quote]&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;great point.  i didn't know exactly how old he was.  and this isn't the 30 but playing every game every year like he was 24.  this is the okay bicep here bicep there ankle here thirty.  its time to get younger at that position and we got lucky getting a kid like miller.</description><pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 09:45:26 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>jj82284</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: Drew Miller</title><link>http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic568792-6-1.aspx</link><description>[quote][b]Stigma (8/2/2008)[/b][hr]&lt;FONT size=3&gt;From what JDR has said, it appears that Meester will NOT be going on IR, so he will be taking up a roster spot even though he will not be able to play. Keeping Drew Miller while keeping a roster spot open for Brad Meester seems to me to be committing too much to the Center position. Accordingly, I would assume that Drew Miller is a long shot to make this roster unless Nwaneri or Norman go down with an injury placing one of them on the IR.&lt;/FONT&gt;[/quote]&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;well how many lineman do you think that we are really going to keep and how commited do you think that we are to dennis norman.  &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;when you look at miller, he is a starting center in the top confrence in the country won a national championship and put up the bar what 34 times.  the kid comes in and can pay.  any other year he would have probably been taken in the first four rounds on that alone.  this is the wierdest draft that any of us have seen.  i think that miller has potential to be a starting caliber center/guard in this league and norman is older and more expensive.  &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;i think that nwaneri has a great shot in the short term and the long term, but miller to me represents a more realistic solution down the line for meester because nwaneri is going to eventually inherit the guard spot opposite manuwai.</description><pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 09:43:57 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>jj82284</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: Drew Miller</title><link>http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic568792-6-1.aspx</link><description>[quote][b]Bon Jagley (8/7/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Jagwyer (8/7/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Jags2DaDeath (8/3/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Alfie (8/2/2008)[/b][hr]I would say no. He got smoked in all of the pass rushing drills by the interior lineman. There was also a play where Gerald Sensabaugh blitzed up the middle, punched Miller and then shed him like he was nothing. Not a good sign.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Also, Jordan is probably the [b]worst[/b] offensive tackle I have ever seen in my life.[/quote]&lt;P&gt;Colon for the Steelers is pretty bad. So was John St Clair.[/quote]&lt;P&gt;LOL how soon we forget that the worst, most smack talking OT in the league is the "revolving door" Ephraim Salaam.[/quote]&lt;P&gt;Actually he hasn't played bad against us.[/quote]&lt;P&gt;Are you kidding me? Lageman on the smartboard last year said Spicers performance last year against him was the most dominant performance he had seen in a long time. Spicer did what ever he wanted. Stats might not show it but it was.</description><pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 08:36:18 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Jagwyer</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: Drew Miller</title><link>http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic568792-6-1.aspx</link><description>[quote][b]Jagwyer (8/7/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Jags2DaDeath (8/3/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Alfie (8/2/2008)[/b][hr]I would say no. He got smoked in all of the pass rushing drills by the interior lineman. There was also a play where Gerald Sensabaugh blitzed up the middle, punched Miller and then shed him like he was nothing. Not a good sign.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Also, Jordan is probably the [b]worst[/b] offensive tackle I have ever seen in my life.[/quote]&lt;P&gt;Colon for the Steelers is pretty bad. So was John St Clair.[/quote]&lt;P&gt;LOL how soon we forget that the worst, most smack talking OT in the league is the "revolving door" Ephraim Salaam.[/quote]&lt;P&gt;Actually he hasn't played bad against us.</description><pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 08:10:10 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Bon Jagley</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: Drew Miller</title><link>http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic568792-6-1.aspx</link><description>[quote][b]Jags2DaDeath (8/3/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Alfie (8/2/2008)[/b][hr]I would say no. He got smoked in all of the pass rushing drills by the interior lineman. There was also a play where Gerald Sensabaugh blitzed up the middle, punched Miller and then shed him like he was nothing. Not a good sign.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Also, Jordan is probably the [b]worst[/b] offensive tackle I have ever seen in my life.[/quote]&lt;P&gt;Colon for the Steelers is pretty bad. So was John St Clair.[/quote]&lt;P&gt;LOL how soon we forget that the worst, most smack talking OT in the league is the "revolving door" Ephraim Salaam.</description><pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 07:49:50 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Jagwyer</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: Drew Miller</title><link>http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic568792-6-1.aspx</link><description>[quote][b]Josh83 (8/7/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b].JagMan. (8/6/2008)[/b][hr]In response to the guy who posted that Jack has already said Drew will make the roster, that's not true, Jack said that Drew has proven to be much more than a camp body.[/quote]Jesus H. Christ does everyone on this board look for any reason to pick apart each other's posts. That's not the quote I was thinking of, but what do you think Jack is insinuating with that? Does anybody really think Miller won't make the team? Many scouts predicted Miller would be drafted and I think we really got lucky he wasn't. This really kind of makes up for one of the pick we lost. I don't know how Mad Dog still can't get it through his fat head that Shack and the rest of our management are not only good talent evaluators, but probably top 5 in the league behind maybe Indy, Baltimore, NE, and maybe Dallas. NY is up there too I would think.[/quote]&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;LOL at JHC</description><pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 05:32:06 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Its Meier Time</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: Drew Miller</title><link>http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic568792-6-1.aspx</link><description>[quote][b].JagMan. (8/6/2008)[/b][hr]In response to the guy who posted that Jack has already said Drew will make the roster, that's not true, Jack said that Drew has proven to be much more than a camp body.[/quote]Jesus H. Christ does everyone on this board look for any reason to pick apart each other's posts. That's not the quote I was thinking of, but what do you think Jack is insinuating with that?  Does anybody really think Miller won't make the team? Many scouts predicted Miller would be drafted and I think we really got lucky he wasn't. This really kind of makes up for one of the pick we lost. I don't know how Mad Dog still can't get it through his fat head that Shack and the rest of our management are not only good talent evaluators, but probably top 5 in the league behind maybe Indy, Baltimore, NE, and maybe Dallas. NY is up there too I would think.</description><pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 05:07:43 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Josh83</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: Drew Miller</title><link>http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic568792-6-1.aspx</link><description>In response to the guy who posted that Jack has already said Drew will make the roster, that's not true, Jack said that Drew has proven to be much more than a camp body.</description><pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 11:42:33 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>JaxJag_1</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: Drew Miller</title><link>http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic568792-6-1.aspx</link><description>Drew Miller is a beast of a guy and a rookie that should have a future in this league. He is fast for an OG and should be just as good at center. The reason I like this guy is size, strength and speed. He is resonsible for letting Tebow and the gators lead a successful rush all last season and the guy just looks like a starter already. I believe he played more at center last year at UF, and with recent injuries I think its a no brainer he'll have a future roster spot on this team.</description><pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 11:37:43 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Juztbecawz</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: Drew Miller</title><link>http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic568792-6-1.aspx</link><description>It was either in Times Union or on here. Why the heck would I make that up? Yeah that's what I do I make up false information so I can go write about it on message boards. Then I do a victory dance in celebration of my trickery. If I get * to hold out false hopes on a backup center than my plan is complete.</description><pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 09:34:35 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Josh83</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: Drew Miller</title><link>http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic568792-6-1.aspx</link><description>[quote][b]Alfie (8/3/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Josh83 (8/3/2008)[/b][hr]I really wouldn't be surprised if Drew Miller is the future center for the Jags. With the injury trend that Meester has been following, that could be the near future. Meester is also 31 years old with a lot of wear and tear. I'm really surprised Miller wasn't drafted in the first place, but it worked out for us, &lt;FONT size=7&gt;and Jack even said he'll make the team.&lt;/FONT&gt; They are also both the same size, and hopefully Meester's work ethic in the weight room will rub off. They are also both very intelligent with great educational backgrounds, a key for that position. I'd say this could work out perfectly for Miller, giving him at least a couple of years to be groomed before Meester retires.[/quote]&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Miller has to be better than terrible first. Not to mention compete with Norman and Nwaneri.[/quote]&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Can someone point out to me where JDR has said this kid will make the team?</description><pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 20:28:46 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>duece</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: Drew Miller</title><link>http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic568792-6-1.aspx</link><description>[quote][b]Josh83 (8/3/2008)[/b][hr]I really wouldn't be surprised if Drew Miller is the future center for the Jags. With the injury trend that Meester has been following, that could be the near future. Meester is also 31 years old with a lot of wear and tear. I'm really surprised Miller wasn't drafted in the first place, but it worked out for us, and Jack even said he'll make the team. They are also both the same size, and hopefully Meester's work ethic in the weight room will rub off. They are also both very intelligent with great educational backgrounds, a key for that position. I'd say this could work out perfectly for Miller, giving him at least a couple of years to be groomed before Meester retires.[/quote]&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;What has Miller shown to make you think this? Let me guess, you're a Gator fan?</description><pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 16:34:24 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Jags2DaDeath</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: Drew Miller</title><link>http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic568792-6-1.aspx</link><description>[quote][b]Alfie (8/2/2008)[/b][hr]I would say no. He got smoked in all of the pass rushing drills by the interior lineman. There was also a play where Gerald Sensabaugh blitzed up the middle, punched Miller and then shed him like he was nothing. Not a good sign.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Also, Jordan is probably the [b]worst[/b] offensive tackle I have ever seen in my life.[/quote]&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Colon for the Steelers is pretty bad. So was John St Clair.</description><pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 16:33:17 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Jags2DaDeath</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: Drew Miller</title><link>http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic568792-6-1.aspx</link><description>[quote][b]Josh83 (8/3/2008)[/b][hr]I really wouldn't be surprised if Drew Miller is the future center for the Jags. With the injury trend that Meester has been following, that could be the near future. Meester is also 31 years old with a lot of wear and tear.  I'm really surprised Miller wasn't drafted in the first place, but it worked out for us, and Jack even said he'll make the team. They are also both the same size, and hopefully Meester's work ethic in the weight room will rub off. They are also both very intelligent with great educational backgrounds, a key for that position. I'd say this could work out perfectly for Miller, giving him at least a couple of years to be groomed before Meester retires.[/quote]&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Miller has to be better than terrible first. Not to mention compete with Norman and Nwaneri.</description><pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 16:32:58 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Alfie</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: Drew Miller</title><link>http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic568792-6-1.aspx</link><description>[quote][b]Mr. Tangent (8/3/2008)[/b][hr]Thanks for that input, but this brings up another question:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;How much longer does Meester have until he loses his job?[/quote]&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I hope until he can no longer perform.  He is one of my favorite players.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;By the way, Vic seems to like Drew, for whatever that is worth.  He did well during the Oklahomas.</description><pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 16:31:53 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>RWBinJax</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: Drew Miller</title><link>http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic568792-6-1.aspx</link><description>Thanks for that input, but this brings up another question:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;How much longer does Meester have until he loses his job?</description><pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 11:42:30 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Mr. Tangent</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: Drew Miller</title><link>http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic568792-6-1.aspx</link><description>I really wouldn't be surprised if Drew Miller is the future center for the Jags. With the injury trend that Meester has been following, that could be the near future. Meester is also 31 years old with a lot of wear and tear.  I'm really surprised Miller wasn't drafted in the first place, but it worked out for us, and Jack even said he'll make the team. They are also both the same size, and hopefully Meester's work ethic in the weight room will rub off. They are also both very intelligent with great educational backgrounds, a key for that position. I'd say this could work out perfectly for Miller, giving him at least a couple of years to be groomed before Meester retires.</description><pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 11:27:26 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Josh83</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: Drew Miller</title><link>http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic568792-6-1.aspx</link><description>[quote][b]Alfie (8/2/2008)[/b][hr]I would say no. He got smoked in all of the pass rushing drills by the interior lineman. There was also a play where Gerald Sensabaugh blitzed up the middle, punched Miller and then shed him like he was nothing. Not a good sign.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Also, Jordan is probably the [b]worst[/b] offensive tackle I have ever seen in my life&lt;/STRONG&gt;.[/quote]&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Todd Fordham takes the cake.   I think he gave up 13 sacks in 12 games with another 7 FS or holds.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;He made Salaam look like TBos.</description><pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 09:06:34 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>nate</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: Drew Miller</title><link>http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic568792-6-1.aspx</link><description>[quote][b]jagabc6893 (8/2/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Stigma (8/2/2008)[/b][hr]&lt;FONT size=3&gt;From what JDR has said, it appears that Meester will NOT be going on IR, so he will be taking up a roster spot even though he will not be able to play. Keeping Drew Miller while keeping a roster spot open for Brad Meester seems to me to be committing too much to the Center position. Accordingly, I would assume that Drew Miller is a long shot to make this roster unless Nwaneri or Norman go down with an injury placing one of them on the IR.&lt;/FONT&gt;[/quote]&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Lewenski can also play Center.I think he will make it for depth over Miller.[/quote]&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Miller will probably make it onto the PS. He one of those guys you find a way to keep on the team.</description><pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 07:26:07 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>DragonFury</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: Drew Miller</title><link>http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic568792-6-1.aspx</link><description>[quote][b]Stigma (8/2/2008)[/b][hr]&lt;FONT size=3&gt;From what JDR has said, it appears that Meester will NOT be going on IR, so he will be taking up a roster spot even though he will not be able to play. Keeping Drew Miller while keeping a roster spot open for Brad Meester seems to me to be committing too much to the Center position. Accordingly, I would assume that Drew Miller is a long shot to make this roster unless Nwaneri or Norman go down with an injury placing one of them on the IR.&lt;/FONT&gt;[/quote]&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Lewenski can also play Center.  I think he will make it for depth over Miller.</description><pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 18:37:22 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>jagabc6893</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: Drew Miller</title><link>http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic568792-6-1.aspx</link><description>I would say no. He got smoked in all of the pass rushing drills by the interior lineman. There was also a play where Gerald Sensabaugh blitzed up the middle, punched Miller and then shed him like he was nothing. Not a good sign.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also, Jordan is probably the [b]worst[/b] offensive tackle I have ever seen in my life.</description><pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 18:19:58 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Alfie</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: Drew Miller</title><link>http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic568792-6-1.aspx</link><description>&lt;FONT size=3&gt;From what JDR has said, it appears that Meester will NOT be going on IR, so he will be taking up a roster spot even though he will not be able to play. Keeping Drew Miller while keeping a roster spot open for Brad Meester seems to me to be committing too much to the Center position. Accordingly, I would assume that Drew Miller is a long shot to make this roster unless Nwaneri or Norman go down with an injury placing one of them on the IR.&lt;/FONT&gt;</description><pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 12:42:33 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Stigma</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: Drew Miller</title><link>http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic568792-6-1.aspx</link><description>His chances got somewhat better becasue of the Meester injury, but he's still behind Norman and Nwaneri.  More than likely, he winds up on the practice squad.</description><pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 12:29:45 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>FBT</dc:creator></item><item><title>Drew Miller</title><link>http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic568792-6-1.aspx</link><description>Even before Meester's injury, I thought Drew Miller would be a wondeful candidate to make the team. I'm an out-of-towner, so I only have what is available through this site, but regardless he looks like a solid player.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now that Meester is down, does he have a better shot to make the team? I think he can be really good behind Norman for insurance (not yet starting), but at the LEAST make the practice squad.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Is the team really committed to getting Nwaneri under center (I have heard rumors of "cross training" some of our lineman) or can Miller lock up the backup role?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Any general info on Miller is also very appreciated. As an aside, I am disappointed with Cotrone's injury. I really REALLY started to like that guy's potential. I hope its something minor, though from what I hear, its not.</description><pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 12:27:55 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Mr. Tangent</dc:creator></item></channel></rss>