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RE: If the NFL were to change the Blackout policy

cunninghamj — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 13:04:42 GMT

I will be honest and say at times I like to watch games at home. Jaguar games for me are different. If its a home game I will be there. I could go to many UF/FSU/UCF games but would rather watch those on tv. I could see why people want to watch it on tv...its more relaxed, the weather is always nice inside, and you dont have to deal with the crowds/obnoxious people (at times).

I do think the one thing that hurts this market with blackouts is the out of towners who we need to convert. If they are not watching the Jags on tv because of black outs it will be much harder to convert them. How hard would it be for you to move to North Carolina and convert to being a Panther fan? Thats the problem the Jags are facing. A consistent team will help in converting fans. Who wouldnt want to go watch a game on a nice Sunday afternoon?

RE: If the NFL were to change the Blackout policy

Byron LeftTown — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 12:41:53 GMT

[quote][b]jagutopia (7/16/2008)[/b][hr]It's an interesting question, so I will try to refrain from flaming it too much. Instead, I will ask you this. Do you have tickets? If you do, it really should be a non-issue. In reality, blackouts will only do 2 things.

1. Keep those in the local viewing area who couldn't/wouldn't go to the game from seeing it on tv.

2. Give the national hacks something to take jabs at Jacksonville about, but they'll always find something anyway.

But back to my main point, if you have your tickets and are already at the games, why would you care if someone who chose not to go can see it anyway?[/quote]

3. Prevent fans who attend the game from watching it when they get home.

RE: If the NFL were to change the Blackout policy

jag86fan — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:30:47 GMT

cleveland is a city that's already lost their team once. They could probably have built a 90,000 seat stadium and filled it. They already know what it's like to not have football after generations of having a home team.

Quoth the (baltimore) raven...

RE: If the NFL were to change the Blackout policy

kkcomp — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 18:19:52 GMT

[quote][b]HURRICANE!!! (7/17/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]kkcomp (7/17/2008)[/b][hr]I think there are 4 reasons for people not going to the stadium. 1. there is a huge financial disparity in Jax. 2. The stadium is too big for the die hard fan population that can afford the money and time. 3. Seeing a game on TV is a different experience than at the stadium. If I want to smoke/ drink/ cuss/ go pee without missing 3 plays/ throw things at the field (TV)/ stand up/ shout or none of the above I can. 4. There are those who, dare I say it to this crowd, actually prefer the atmosphere of watching a game on TV VS a stadium game.

No I am not whining just stating how it is for some.[/quote]

First of all... wishing you the best with your mother in law's lupus

Now, here is my take.

1) Financial Disparity --- I don't buy that !!! Come down here and see the crowds at our resturants (Bonefish, Outback, Carrabas, etc). People have money ... just need to prioritize the Jags

2)Stadium too big??? You're coming from an area that had no problem selling out the 80,000 Municipal stadium in Cleveland. I've never heard any complaints here about stadium size.

3 & 4 ) TV & Convenience -- the advent of HD tvs support your position on this one. Probably the most valid argument you have here.

[/quote]

Thanks to all for the well wishes once you get past denial it is what it is and you go on. Allow me to clarify a bit on some things.

1. By financial disparity I mean that here in Jax it seem like you either have money or you don't. To me I don't see much of a middle class. Thats a good thing it means many jobs here are good jobs.

-Side note to the NFL- you count the Navy people in the population but most have a team before they get here and many just flat out can't afford tickets were it not for the USO tickets. Tip of the hat to the Weavers for being so generous on that.

2. The teams I was talking about when I was young had been around for many generations. I think the Bengals and the Bills are the young guys. Jax hasn't had that luxury yet they are just starting to get to round two. It's growing but it's not quite here we still need time and advertising.

As I grew up there was always NFL football (well after the merger that is). Here there are people who only knew Gators, Dogs or Noles for generations. Jax is great place but in reality this is a young city with an even younger Football Team. Give it time and patience, it's coming.

RE: If the NFL were to change the Blackout policy

HURRICANE!!! — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:21:29 GMT

[quote][b]kkcomp (7/17/2008)[/b][hr]I think there are 4 reasons for people not going to the stadium. 1. there is a huge financial disparity in Jax. 2. The stadium is too big for the die hard fan population that can afford the money and time. 3. Seeing a game on TV is a different experience than at the stadium. If I want to smoke/ drink/ cuss/ go pee without missing 3 plays/ throw things at the field (TV)/ stand up/ shout or none of the above I can. 4. There are those who, dare I say it to this crowd, actually prefer the atmosphere of watching a game on TV VS a stadium game.

No I am not whining just stating how it is for some.[/quote]

First of all... wishing you the best with your mother in law's lupus

Now, here is my take.

1) Financial Disparity --- I don't buy that !!! Come down here and see the crowds at our resturants (Bonefish, Outback, Carrabas, etc). People have money ... just need to prioritize the Jags

2)Stadium too big??? You're coming from an area that had no problem selling out the 80,000 Municipal stadium in Cleveland. I've never heard any complaints here about stadium size.

3 & 4 ) TV & Convenience -- the advent of HD tvs support your position on this one. Probably the most valid argument you have here.

RE: If the NFL were to change the Blackout policy

JAGGATOR1 — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:15:36 GMT

I find the "blackout" policy racist and politically incorrect. It should be banned permanently and financial reparations should be paid to any African-American NFL employee, management, or player and their past and future families for any lost revenue.

RE: If the NFL were to change the Blackout policy

the Chiefjag — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:10:21 GMT

[quote][b]kkcomp (7/17/2008)[/b][hr]Here is 2 cents from a guy who has been a fan of Jacksonville football since the Bulls. I grew up in the general area of Kent State and could be in 1 of 5 NFL town in 3 hours or less. Yeah I have been a football fan my whole life.

I can't afford season tickets. Ok that discussion is over unless someone who has enough money is willing to provide tickets for my wife and I. While your at it supply the money for a sitter for 2 kids and a nurse for the mother-in-law with Lupis. Don't forget the bus fare (parking pass would be nice but why get greedy?), at least one drink and something to eat for each of us would be nice too. If you get me cheap seats can you get binoculars for both of us too?

I think there are 4 reasons for people not going to the stadium. 1. there is a huge financial disparity in Jax. 2. The stadium is too big for the die hard fan population that can afford the money and time. 3. Seeing a game on TV is a different experience than at the stadium. If I want to smoke/ drink/ cuss/ go pee without missing 3 plays/ throw things at the field (TV)/ stand up/ shout or none of the above I can. 4. There are those who, dare I say it to this crowd, actually prefer the atmosphere of watching a game on TV VS a stadium game.

No I am not whining just stating how it is for some.[/quote]

You fall into the category many here recognize as unable to attend and our sympathies are with you. For a vast majority of fans the opportunity to attend a game is non-existent. That's understandable.

For a large population attending the game is not as important as some other recreational activity. Ever see the golf courses on a home Sunday? There empty. Many golfers prefer to play rather than sit and watch at the stadium.

I think what this thread is about is encouraging those who are on the fence to buy a ticket before the blackout deadline so there is not a blackout and those who can't attend will be able to watch at home. We sold out the stadium with walk up crowds last year when the game was blacked out. It took a black out to get them to buy a ticket.

Regards.............the Chiefjag

RE: If the NFL were to change the Blackout policy

Juztbecawz — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 13:43:57 GMT

This thread was started because it seems that the blackouts we've suffered are always the ammo behind writers saying this is an indicator that the Jags could move. Lame as it is, it has happened here too often.

I feel we won't even be close to a black-out this season. However I care very much that the taxpayers of this city get to see the team that they helped fund over the years on TV every sunday. I care about the orginization's Television revenues and the players psyche. I won't ever knock a fan for not going to the games, because its just not mandadory. We go to every game and travel when we can, but I feel that all the games last season that were blacked-out could have been televised had the NFL had a bit more flexability.

RE: If the NFL were to change the Blackout policy

kkcomp — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:37:32 GMT

Here is 2 cents from a guy who has been a fan of Jacksonville football since the Bulls. I grew up in the general area of Kent State and could be in 1 of 5 NFL town in 3 hours or less. Yeah I have been a football fan my whole life.

No I am not whining just stating how it is for some.

RE: If the NFL were to change the Blackout policy

JRD — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:50:23 GMT

I'm refering to blackout rules based on attendance when I say no other sport has them. I understand if I want to watch the Redsox but fox has the rights and they are showing the braves I'm SOL. Baseball, basketball & hockey do not black out games in local markets based on whether or not the game is a sellout 72 hours prior to the start. That needs to go.

RE: If the NFL were to change the Blackout policy

Doug-H — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:02:19 GMT

[quote][b]Duuuuvall!!!! (7/16/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]JRD (7/16/2008)[/b][hr]Ditch them. No other pro sport has them but football. They are outdated and the original purpose is no longer valid. I don't it would effect our walk up crowd one bit.[/quote]

Every major sport including college football has blackout rules, just not as restrictive as the NFL's, and most are dependent on the television contract that they have with local and major networks.

For instance.. FOX is the only network allowed to show baseball games nationally from 3:55 - 7. So if your team is not playing on Fox on Saturday, you are SOL even if you have the baseball package.

Blackout rule is going to go away in the future because game will most likely be shown on Pay-per-view like everything else.[/quote]

The baseball blackout rules only out of town fans of teams... If your team is on FOX Saturday, you'll see the game in the local markets no question.. They don't schedule anything else... Even if your game is at 1pm on a Saturday, it will be shown on the local TV networks and online.... just not on the baseball package....

Every other major league sport has most of their games on TV home and away these days... I know some teams don't always have every game on TV but those are more of a time schedule issue... Heck, the Rays have many of their games on over the air free TV in Tampa and other places in Florida and they certainly aren't sold out.... They use it to promote...

Let's see if other teams start to have ticket problems selling the last seat.. If more teams have problems selling out and face blackouts, we may see a rule change....

RE: If the NFL were to change the Blackout policy

Duuuuvall!!!! — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 18:48:02 GMT

[quote][b]JRD (7/16/2008)[/b][hr]Ditch them. No other pro sport has them but football. They are outdated and the original purpose is no longer valid. I don't it would effect our walk up crowd one bit.[/quote]

Every major sport including college football has blackout rules, just not as restrictive as the NFL's, and most are dependent on the television contract that they have with local and major networks.

For instance.. FOX is the only network allowed to show baseball games nationally from 3:55 - 7. So if your team is not playing on Fox on Saturday, you are SOL even if you have the baseball package.

Blackout rule is going to go away in the future because game will most likely be shown on Pay-per-view like everything else.

RE: If the NFL were to change the Blackout policy

rfc17 — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 17:34:00 GMT

I think itd be interesting to know how many people buy a ticket in fear of a blackout that wouldnt otherwise normally do so. are we talking 5000+ or more like a 1000 or more like 500?

I understand the reason for the blackout rule. And I can understand why owners dont want to give away their product for free. But for a team like the Jaguars, part of me wonders if thats the best strategy. This is a team that has struggled to fill the stadium for 10 years now with good and bad teams. we cant even fill it with tarps covering seats. and we could barely sell it out last year late in the season when we were obviously a playoff caliber team. and as those who go to the games can attest, when we do sell out, a large thanks should go to the opposing teams fans.

its not like we have tons of fans who are just avoiding the games because the team is losing or some other reason. this is a team that just lacks fans period. so how is blacking out the games gonna help fix that problem? especially in the markets outside jacksonville proper that probably arent inundated with jaguar coverage like we are. I want to relate it to a new musical group. when they are first starting out, what do they do? theyll play a concert and then hand out free CDs. their whole goal is to be seen and heard. to get their name out. to grow in popularity. A group like Metallica can afford to fight the free swapping of online music, but when they were first starting out, they were giving away their music just like everyone else. why? to get their name out. what better advertising is there? if you want to relate it to sports, look at the Atlanta Braves. Having their games being shown on TBS increased their popularity tenfold.

So thats why I think itd be interesting to know how much money the Jags pull in due blacking out a game. how many more tickets are bought that wouldnt have? how do the concessions sales change? There is no better advertising for the Jags than to have their games on TV. and I wonder how much they gain when they choose to take them off.

RE: If the NFL were to change the Blackout policy

JRD — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 17:04:30 GMT

Ditch them. No other pro sport has them but football . They are outdated and the original purpose is no longer valid. I don't it would effect our walk up crowd one bit.

RE: If the NFL were to change the Blackout policy

FBT — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:54:43 GMT

[quote][b]DAVEPDB2 (7/16/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]jagutopia (7/16/2008)[/b][hr]It's an interesting question, so I will try to refrain from flaming it too much. Instead, I will ask you this. Do you have tickets? If you do, it really should be a non-issue. In reality, blackouts will only do 2 things.

1. Keep those in the local viewing area who couldn't/wouldn't go to the game from seeing it on tv.

2. Give the national hacks something to take jabs at Jacksonville about, but they'll always find something anyway.

But back to my main point, if you have your tickets and are already at the games, why would you care if someone who chose not to go can see it anyway?[/quote]

***Third party comment here***

I do want everyone to see all the games...

I know that some choose not to go for whatever reason, but most simply can't, or just aren't into attending games in person even though they may be big fans.

The couple of games last year that were blacked out were great games...

A couple of Fred's huge runs were in those games...

Every Jaguars fan should have been able to see that...

There should be more than enough fans that are willing / capable / want to buy enough tix to sell the place out, thus avoiding blackouts, without having to chastise those that can't afford / don't want to attend...

I know way too many huge Jaguars fans with families / obligations / simply can't afford to go to the games to not want any and all Jags fans to see the games without having to be there...

My point in case, last year I bought a third ticket, just to 'support' the team, and most of the time, it was a struggle trying to find someone to use the third ticket...

I know, I know: You didn't call me!

Whatever, at the time, it was hard to find one of my friends that were available...

Not everyone can make it, even with a free ticket...[/quote]

Whether you're a player or a fan, the same thing applies. The NFL is a privilege, not a right.

I don't think the league needs to tinker with the blackout rules at all. Either they exist or they don't. There should be no need to tweak them. If we're 2000 short of the target, we're 2000 short and the game is blacked out. Simple as that.

They're not going to modify the rules to say "well, you almost got there, so we'll let you televise the game. "

The blackout rules have been in place for more than 30 years. Are they outdated? Absolutley. But, when I say they're outdated, I mean that from the perspective that they're unnecessary all together. Not that they need to be modified. When the rules were put in place, they were intended to help owners augment their bottom line by assuring that tickets were sold. Well, tickets are no longer the primary source of revenues for teams. Television contracts and licensing are. So, blackout rules are obsolete. Ditch them, or leave them the way that they are. Don't tweak them.

RE: If the NFL were to change the Blackout policy

yayo — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:51:20 GMT

or we could just sell the **** tickets

RE: If the NFL were to change the Blackout policy

Jeremy — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:47:27 GMT

[quote][b]Juztbecawz (7/16/2008)[/b][hr]I personally think that 2000 or less remaining Non-premium seatsby Friday at 9:00 pm would be a fair rule to lift a black-out.

What sucks is seeing the stadium full on a Blacked-outSunday, knowing that all the other fans and "possible" fans are missing out. This seems to be the theme with the Blackouts we have had. Some People in this city just buy the day of the event and the NFL already shows a little flexability with extensions.

Who would lobby this rule change? Owners or Commercial Sponsors?

I know some will just say, buy season tickets. And I agree. [/quote]

If the rule were to be changed, I think it should be amount of tickets sold... Add up the non-premium seating capacity of all the NFL stadiums, divide it by 32, and that's the number you have to sell by whatever the deadline is on Thurs...

I'm a bit too lazy to do the math, but the only snag I see in this scenario is a stadium or two may hold less than the median, so they'd still be forced to 'sell out.'

Under those set of circumstances, no one would really be able to complain about stadium size being an issue any longer. If the NFL really wanted to go crazy, they could average in market size versus capacity, and a number of other issues to REALLY even things out.

RE: If the NFL were to change the Blackout policy

Utopia — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 12:59:37 GMT

:Whistling::yeahthat::D

RE: If the NFL were to change the Blackout policy

DAVEPDB2 — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 12:57:35 GMT

[quote][b]jagutopia (7/16/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]DAVEPDB2 (7/16/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]jagutopia (7/16/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]DAVEPDB2 (7/16/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]jagutopia (7/16/2008)[/b][hr]It's an interesting question, so I will try to refrain from flaming it too much. Instead, I will ask you this. Do you have tickets? If you do, it really should be a non-issue. In reality, blackouts will only do 2 things.

1. Keep those in the local viewing area who couldn't/wouldn't go to the game from seeing it on tv.

2. Give the national hacks something to take jabs at Jacksonville about, but they'll always find something anyway.

But back to my main point, if you have your tickets and are already at the games, why would you care if someone who chose not to go can see it anyway?[/quote]

***Third party comment here***

I do want everyone to see all the games...

I know that some choose not to go for whatever reason, but most simply can't, or just aren't into attending games in person even though they may be big fans.

The couple of games last year that were blacked out were great games...

A couple of Fred's huge runs were in those games...

Every Jaguars fan should have been able to see that...

I know way too many huge Jaguars fans with families / obligations / simply can't afford to go to the games to not want any and all Jags fans to see the games without having to be there...

My point in case, last year I bought a third ticket, just to 'support' the team, and most of the time, it was a struggle trying to find someone to use the third ticket...

I know, I know: You didn't call me!

Whatever, at the time, it was hard to find one of my friends that were available...

Not everyone can make it, even with a free ticket...[/quote]

Trust me, I wasn't chastising anyone. Just questioning why the rules should be different. Most teams would never even entertain this discussion. Jacksonville has a team that should not EVER, EVER, EVER be associated with blackouts. But they do. I am just of the opinion that if Jacksonville want's to ensure the long term viability of the Jaguars in this city, it is then time to put on the big boy pants and do it ourselves. Us, the people of this town.

That continues to be my wish.[/quote]

And you're exactly right, and I didn't mean to imply that you were attempting to put anyone down, I know you weren't; I myself have in the past, and have learned from that, obviously, and moved on...

I hope this season catapults us out of this "...will the tickets be sold in time?" headache...[/quote]

How true. I really don't even like talking about it anymore.[/quote]

Talking about waht? :Whistling:

RE: If the NFL were to change the Blackout policy

Utopia — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 12:56:18 GMT

[quote][b]DAVEPDB2 (7/16/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]jagutopia (7/16/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]DAVEPDB2 (7/16/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]jagutopia (7/16/2008)[/b][hr]It's an interesting question, so I will try to refrain from flaming it too much. Instead, I will ask you this. Do you have tickets? If you do, it really should be a non-issue. In reality, blackouts will only do 2 things.

1. Keep those in the local viewing area who couldn't/wouldn't go to the game from seeing it on tv.

2. Give the national hacks something to take jabs at Jacksonville about, but they'll always find something anyway.

But back to my main point, if you have your tickets and are already at the games, why would you care if someone who chose not to go can see it anyway?[/quote]

***Third party comment here***

I do want everyone to see all the games...

I know that some choose not to go for whatever reason, but most simply can't, or just aren't into attending games in person even though they may be big fans.

The couple of games last year that were blacked out were great games...

A couple of Fred's huge runs were in those games...

Every Jaguars fan should have been able to see that...

I know way too many huge Jaguars fans with families / obligations / simply can't afford to go to the games to not want any and all Jags fans to see the games without having to be there...

My point in case, last year I bought a third ticket, just to 'support' the team, and most of the time, it was a struggle trying to find someone to use the third ticket...

I know, I know: You didn't call me!

Whatever, at the time, it was hard to find one of my friends that were available...

Not everyone can make it, even with a free ticket...[/quote]

That continues to be my wish.[/quote]

And you're exactly right, and I didn't mean to imply that you were attempting to put anyone down, I know you weren't; I myself have in the past, and have learned from that, obviously, and moved on...

I hope this season catapults us out of this "...will the tickets be sold in time?" headache...[/quote]

How true. I really don't even like talking about it anymore.

RE: If the NFL were to change the Blackout policy

DAVEPDB2 — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 12:51:45 GMT

[quote][b]jagutopia (7/16/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]DAVEPDB2 (7/16/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]jagutopia (7/16/2008)[/b][hr]It's an interesting question, so I will try to refrain from flaming it too much. Instead, I will ask you this. Do you have tickets? If you do, it really should be a non-issue. In reality, blackouts will only do 2 things.

1. Keep those in the local viewing area who couldn't/wouldn't go to the game from seeing it on tv.

2. Give the national hacks something to take jabs at Jacksonville about, but they'll always find something anyway.

But back to my main point, if you have your tickets and are already at the games, why would you care if someone who chose not to go can see it anyway?[/quote]

***Third party comment here***

I do want everyone to see all the games...

I know that some choose not to go for whatever reason, but most simply can't, or just aren't into attending games in person even though they may be big fans.

The couple of games last year that were blacked out were great games...

A couple of Fred's huge runs were in those games...

Every Jaguars fan should have been able to see that...

I know way too many huge Jaguars fans with families / obligations / simply can't afford to go to the games to not want any and all Jags fans to see the games without having to be there...

My point in case, last year I bought a third ticket, just to 'support' the team, and most of the time, it was a struggle trying to find someone to use the third ticket...

I know, I know: You didn't call me!

Whatever, at the time, it was hard to find one of my friends that were available...

Not everyone can make it, even with a free ticket...[/quote]

That continues to be my wish.[/quote]

And you're exactly right, and I didn't mean to imply that you were attempting to put anyone down, I know you weren't; I myself have in the past, and have learned from that, obviously, and moved on...

I hope this season catapults us out of this "...will the tickets be sold in time?" headache...

RE: If the NFL were to change the Blackout policy

the Chiefjag — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 12:43:16 GMT

The idea behind the black out rule is to allow the owner to sell more tickets. The later the blackout rule is extended the harder it will be for him to sell those remaining seats.

Think about the fans in, say Talahassee or Orlando, for instance. If they know on Thursday they won't be able to watch the game they have more of an opportunity to make hotel arrangements, plans, et. al. to come to Jacksonville and watch the game in person.

Regards.................the Chiefjag

RE: If the NFL were to change the Blackout policy

Utopia — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 12:42:56 GMT

1. Keep those in the local viewing area who couldn't/wouldn't go to the game from seeing it on tv.

2. Give the national hacks something to take jabs at Jacksonville about, but they'll always find something anyway.

But back to my main point, if you have your tickets and are already at the games, why would you care if someone who chose not to go can see it anyway?[/quote]

***Third party comment here***

I do want everyone to see all the games...

I know that some choose not to go for whatever reason, but most simply can't, or just aren't into attending games in person even though they may be big fans.

The couple of games last year that were blacked out were great games...

A couple of Fred's huge runs were in those games...

Every Jaguars fan should have been able to see that...

I know way too many huge Jaguars fans with families / obligations / simply can't afford to go to the games to not want any and all Jags fans to see the games without having to be there...

My point in case, last year I bought a third ticket, just to 'support' the team, and most of the time, it was a struggle trying to find someone to use the third ticket...

I know, I know: You didn't call me!

Whatever, at the time, it was hard to find one of my friends that were available...

Not everyone can make it, even with a free ticket...[/quote]

That continues to be my wish.

RE: If the NFL were to change the Blackout policy

DAVEPDB2 — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 12:35:00 GMT

1. Keep those in the local viewing area who couldn't/wouldn't go to the game from seeing it on tv.

2. Give the national hacks something to take jabs at Jacksonville about, but they'll always find something anyway.

But back to my main point, if you have your tickets and are already at the games, why would you care if someone who chose not to go can see it anyway?[/quote]

***Third party comment here***

I do want everyone to see all the games...

I know that some choose not to go for whatever reason, but most simply can't, or just aren't into attending games in person even though they may be big fans.

The couple of games last year that were blacked out were great games...

A couple of Fred's huge runs were in those games...

Every Jaguars fan should have been able to see that...

I know way too many huge Jaguars fans with families / obligations / simply can't afford to go to the games to not want any and all Jags fans to see the games without having to be there...

My point in case, last year I bought a third ticket, just to 'support' the team, and most of the time, it was a struggle trying to find someone to use the third ticket...

I know, I know: You didn't call me!

Whatever, at the time, it was hard to find one of my friends that were available...

Not everyone can make it, even with a free ticket...

RE: If the NFL were to change the Blackout policy

jagibelieve — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 12:14:08 GMT

[quote][b]Duuuuvall!!!! (7/16/2008)[/b][hr]The only game that I see as a defenite blackout is the Texans game. The Jags play the NFC Central, and Jacksonville has a lot of transplants from that area of the country...Maybe the Tennesee game aslo.. maybe..[/quote]Both are very likely possibilities for blackouts.

RE: If the NFL were to change the Blackout policy

Utopia — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 11:05:23 GMT

It's an interesting question, so I will try to refrain from flaming it too much. Instead, I will ask you this. Do you have tickets? If you do, it really should be a non-issue. In reality, blackouts will only do 2 things.

1. Keep those in the local viewing area who couldn't/wouldn't go to the game from seeing it on tv.

2. Give the national hacks something to take jabs at Jacksonville about, but they'll always find something anyway.

But back to my main point, if you have your tickets and are already at the games, why would you care if someone who chose not to go can see it anyway?

RE: If the NFL were to change the Blackout policy

DAVEPDB2 — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 11:02:56 GMT

What???

RE: If the NFL were to change the Blackout policy

BJORN TOURAQUE — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 10:57:50 GMT

If we blackout against the Titans, with them coming off a playoff year in addition to being a division rival and having all the hype around VY, that would be plain sad.

RE: If the NFL were to change the Blackout policy

Duuuuvall!!!! — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 10:54:37 GMT

The only game that I see as a defenite blackout is the Texans game. The Jags play the NFC Central, and Jacksonville has a lot of transplants from that area of the country...Maybe the Tennesee game aslo.. maybe..

RE: If the NFL were to change the Blackout policy

DAVEPDB2 — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 10:36:01 GMT

If we have any blackouts this year, even with the economy the way it is, with this team, would just be ridiculous...

If the NFL were to change the Blackout policy

Juztbecawz — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 10:33:29 GMT

I personally think that 2000 or less remaining Non-premium seats by Friday at 9:00 pm would be a fair rule to lift a black-out.

What sucks is seeing the stadium full on a Blacked-out Sunday, knowing that all the other fans and "possible" fans are missing out. This seems to be the theme with the Blackouts we have had. Some People in this city just buy the day of the event and the NFL already shows a little flexability with extensions.

Who would lobby this rule change? Owners or Commercial Sponsors?

I know some will just say, buy season tickets. And I agree.