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RE: Article on Shack Harris

Gimli:-englandjag — Sun, 18 May 2008 09:14:44 GMT

[quote][b]jashank2005 (5/17/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Gimli:-englandjag (5/17/2008)[/b]Isn't focusing an inordinate amount of negative attention on anyone, black or otherwisefor no good reason to the point of obsession a bit worrying andwrong?

Anyway its all Jack Del Rios fault, that man is a useless Italian* pizzaria waiter.

*I don't hate Italian-Americans, I just need something to cling to. :cool:[/quote]

Isn't Jack Del Rio part Spanish? ;)
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I don't know, I could change my bias to incorporate all mediterranean countries to be sure.

In response to All Jaged Up. In the ultimate of ironies he works in a Pizzeria in Rome, bought in as an illegal immigrant to service Italys buzzing food industry.

RE: Article on Shack Harris

jashank2005 — Sat, 17 May 2008 20:32:21 GMT

[quote][b]Gimli:-englandjag (5/17/2008)[/b]Isn't focusing an inordinate amount of negative attention on anyone, black or otherwisefor no good reason to the point of obsession a bit worrying andwrong?

Anyway its all Jack Del Rios fault, that man is a useless Italian* pizzaria waiter.

*I don't hate Italian-Americans, I just need something to cling to. :cool:[/quote]

Isn't Jack Del Rio part Spanish? ;)

RE: Article on Shack Harris

ALL-JAG'D-UP — Sat, 17 May 2008 14:56:41 GMT

[quote][b]Gimli:-englandjag (5/17/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]ytraM (5/17/2008)[/b][hr]I believe this from everything I read, and hear, from the participants:

Management of the Jaguars is done AS A TEAM. Draft picks are not Shack picks, they are Shack/Jack/Gene/Paul/Wayne and the Scouts' picks. Credit or blame should be assigned equally to ALL of the participants in the process. First round busts should be blamed on the TEAM; second round home runs should be credited TO THE TEAM.

This is what makes it hard for people like me to understand why people like TMD want to focus blame for the few bad moves solely on Shack Harris, and give credit for the many good moves to other people. The only thing we can come up with as any kind of logical explanation is race.

I'm not saying TMD is a racist, I'm just trying to explain why some people throw the race card at him.

Because of the history, and continued existence of, racism in this country, when a person focuses an inordinate amount of negative attention on an African American person, for apparently no good reason at all, to the point of obsession, that person looks to many people like a racist.

I'm not saying you are a racist, TMD, I'm just trying to offer some kind of explanation as to why people might accuse you of it, fairly or unfairly. [/quote]

Isn't focusing an inordinate amount of negative attention on anyone, black or otherwise for no good reason to the point of obsession a bit worrying and wrong?

Anyway its all Jack Del Rios fault, that man is a useless Italian* pizzaria waiter.

*I don't hate Italian-Americans, I just need something to cling to. :cool:[/quote]

As an Italian-American, I must admit that posts like this totally tick me off...... you didn't mention where said pizzaria is located....And I'm friggin starvin' !!!

RE: Article on Shack Harris

Gimli:-englandjag — Sat, 17 May 2008 12:09:39 GMT

[quote][b]ytraM (5/17/2008)[/b][hr]I believe this from everything I read, and hear, from the participants:

I'm not saying TMD is a racist, I'm just trying to explain why some people throw the race card at him.

I'm not saying you are a racist, TMD, I'm just trying to offer some kind of explanation as to why people might accuse you of it, fairly or unfairly. [/quote]

Isn't focusing an inordinate amount of negative attention on anyone, black or otherwise for no good reason to the point of obsession a bit worrying and wrong?

Anyway its all Jack Del Rios fault, that man is a useless Italian* pizzaria waiter.

*I don't hate Italian-Americans, I just need something to cling to. :cool:

RE: Article on Shack Harris

ytraM — Sat, 17 May 2008 05:46:55 GMT

I believe this from everything I read, and hear, from the participants:

I'm not saying TMD is a racist, I'm just trying to explain why some people throw the race card at him.

Because of the history, and continued existence of, racism in this country, when a person focuses an inordinate amount of negative attention on an African American person, for apparently no good reason at all, to the point of obsession, that person looks to many people like a racist.

I'm not saying you are a racist, TMD, I'm just trying to offer some kind of explanation as to why people might accuse you of it, fairly or unfairly.

RE: Article on Shack Harris

GatorCountry — Sat, 17 May 2008 00:04:15 GMT

You guys are funny :laugh:

Oh and, Thanks for posting the Article, Good read.

RE: Article on Shack Harris

The Mad Dog — Fri, 16 May 2008 23:24:43 GMT

[quote][b]FBT (5/16/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]The Mad Dog (5/16/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]FBT (5/16/2008)[/b][hr]This is a guy that deserves a whole lot more respect than he gets from certain nitwits on this board. Should we agree with the bed wetters that have been known to refer to Shack as a monkey, or a monkey dung sweeper, or a host of other derogatory labels that mask what their actual hatred is about? Or, should we take the word of the professionals that work with this guy on a more equal basis?

This article further exemplifies why some on this board can't stand Shack for reasons that have little or nothing to do with actual football. [/quote]

...I guess you better include Wayne Weaver on that list too, then because if he was as pleased with the job Shack has done as apparently you are & that flack writer, then he would not have had some of his power taken away this past offseason, and he would have been given a fat five year contract extension with hefty pay raise. That did not occur. He was given a 1 year - "show me" deal.

I love how people always have to trip over themselves rushing to use the race card, when all else fails.[/quote]

If the hood fits, whimp.

BTW, please don't try to read the mind of Wayne Weaver. You have no idea what he's thinking. Stick to what you know. If ESPN isn't spoon feeding you with your thoughts, you're pretty much relegated to Barry Manilow's greatest hits, and patterning your entire wardrobe after the Village People.

If Weaver was even remotely unhappy with Shack Harris, the GM wouldn't be here any longer. [/quote]

and if Weaver thought Harris was doing as good a job as you & that writer believes, then Harris would have received a contract extension that mirrored what JDR got in terms of years, not the one year "show me" contract that he was given, tubby.

RE: Article on Shack Harris

FBT — Fri, 16 May 2008 23:11:39 GMT

[quote][b]The Mad Dog (5/16/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]FBT (5/16/2008)[/b][hr]This is a guy that deserves a whole lot more respect than he gets from certain nitwits on this board. Should we agree with the bed wetters that have been known to refer to Shack as a monkey, or a monkey dung sweeper, or a host of other derogatory labels that mask what their actual hatred is about? Or, should we take the word of the professionals that work with this guy on a more equal basis?

If the hood fits, whimp.

If Weaver was even remotely unhappy with Shack Harris, the GM wouldn't be here any longer.

RE: Article on Shack Harris

The Mad Dog — Fri, 16 May 2008 22:43:31 GMT

[quote][b]FBT (5/16/2008)[/b][hr]This is a guy that deserves a whole lot more respect than he gets from certain nitwits on this board. Should we agree with the bed wetters that have been known to refer to Shack as a monkey, or a monkey dung sweeper, or a host of other derogatory labels that mask what their actual hatred is about? Or, should we take the word of the professionals that work with this guy on a more equal basis?

This article further exemplifies why some on this board can't stand Shack for reasons that have little or nothing to do with actual football. [/quote]

...I guess you better include Wayne Weaver on that list too, then because if he was as pleased with the job Shack has done as apparently you are & that flack writer, then he would not have had some of his power taken away this past offseason, and he would have been given a fat five year contract extension with hefty pay raise. That did not occur. He was given a 1 year - "show me" deal.

I love how people always have to trip over themselves rushing to use the race card, when all else fails.

RE: Article on Shack Harris

FBT — Fri, 16 May 2008 18:42:11 GMT

This is a guy that deserves a whole lot more respect than he gets from certain nitwits on this board. Should we agree with the bed wetters that have been known to refer to Shack as a monkey, or a monkey dung sweeper, or a host of other derogatory labels that mask what their actual hatred is about? Or, should we take the word of the professionals that work with this guy on a more equal basis?

This article further exemplifies why some on this board can't stand Shack for reasons that have little or nothing to do with actual football.

RE: Article on Shack Harris

THE BLUPRINT — Fri, 16 May 2008 10:29:21 GMT

[quote][b]Stigma (5/16/2008)[/b][hr]I think Shack Harris' soft spoken demeanor is one of his greatest assets. He displays a quiet confidence that shouts TEAM FIRST! He is not called the Jags GM, but everybody in the league knows that he is the Jags GM. He allows JDR to shine while he steps back from the limelight. He shares power and makes no bones about the fact that decisions are made in the best interest of the team. It is very refreshing to see a man of power get the idea that it is NOT ABOUT HIM. All Shack Harris does is his job and he apparently is doing it well enough to supply the team with a talentbase that has become the envy of the league.[/quote]

Umm, right. But don't tell TMD

RE: Article on Shack Harris

Stigma — Fri, 16 May 2008 07:46:11 GMT

I think Shack Harris' soft spoken demeanor is one of his greatest assets. He displays a quiet confidence that shouts TEAM FIRST! He is not called the Jags GM, but everybody in the league knows that he is the Jags GM. He allows JDR to shine while he steps back from the limelight. He shares power and makes no bones about the fact that decisions are made in the best interest of the team. It is very refreshing to see a man of power get the idea that it is NOT ABOUT HIM. All Shack Harris does is his job and he apparently is doing it well enough to supply the team with a talentbase that has become the envy of the league.

RE: Article on Shack Harris

yayo — Thu, 15 May 2008 18:44:25 GMT

Oh no! we got Joey Porter instead of Jerry Porter! They fleeced us! Shack Harris is so dumb!

'Among the plentiful offseason Jaguars moves that Harris has helped orchestrate, the Jaguars extended Del Rio’s contract through the 2012 season, grabbed receivers Joey Porter from Oakland and Troy Williamson from Minnesota, nabbed cornerback Drayton Florence from San Diego, gained defensive coordinator Gregg Williams from Washington and moved up in the draft to swipe Florida defensive end Derrick Harvey.'

RE: Article on Shack Harris

THE BLUPRINT — Thu, 15 May 2008 18:28:13 GMT

Great Read thanks. it was good to see Shack getting love like that.

RE: Article on Shack Harris

Its Meier Time — Thu, 15 May 2008 18:14:50 GMT

Nice article...thanks!

Article on Shack Harris

ruger — Thu, 15 May 2008 18:10:36 GMT

Here's a new article from NFL.com:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story;jsessionid=836FF50005082E8C8EB59A556472DF9B?id=09000d5d80852716&template=with-video&confirm=true