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RE: quinn gray

DBR — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:59:40 GMT

Quinn Gray signed with the Colts.

He was released from the Texans because Rosenfels was not traded to the Vikings, no other reason. He knew that going in.

The Jags better have an awsome running game and defense. The Jags won't win with Gerrard's passing.

RE: quinn gray

Bon Jagley — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 06:00:39 GMT

[quote][b]The Lord of Orange (7/4/2008)[/b][hr]Didn't Gray have 10 TD's and 5 INT's last season? I don't recall any other backups having those kinds of numbers. Especially not in as little playing time as he did.

Honestly, I was suprised to see him go essentially bust. Especially in today's high rolling QB market.

If I had my choice between Gray for $3 million and Lemon, I'd kept Gray aside from any reported ego problems as some posters have rumored.

I think what happened was Jacksonville was banking on Gray getting signed by another team so they picked up the best available guy on the market and wrote Gray off. I'm sorry to see things working out for Gray like they are, but with Lemon's contract I don't see him geting bumped for Gray and unless Jacksonville decides to carry 3 QB's on it's roster I doubt Gray will be back on Jacksonville's roster any time soon.[/quote]

Some reported ego problems as some posters have rumored? No. It has been long reported by Pete Prisco, Vic Ketchman, Jeff Lageman and others. He isn't coming back.

RE: quinn gray

Utopia — Sun, 06 Jul 2008 21:56:15 GMT

More proof that Freddy T is the greatest.

RE: quinn gray

Duuuuvall!!!! — Sun, 06 Jul 2008 19:42:16 GMT

Did any of you see Freddy T's quote about Quinn Gray in Athlon's preview?

"Some ribs, some chicken"

Fred Taylor when asked what 270 pound QB Quinn Gray brought to the table.

Almost fell out of my seat laughing when I read it.

RE: quinn gray

The Lord of Orange — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 21:17:36 GMT

Didn't Gray have 10 TD's and 5 INT's last season? I don't recall any other backups having those kinds of numbers. Especially not in as little playing time as he did.

Honestly, I was suprised to see him go essentially bust. Especially in today's high rolling QB market.

If I had my choice between Gray for $3 million and Lemon, I'd kept Gray aside from any reported ego problems as some posters have rumored.

RE: quinn gray

BJORN TOURAQUE — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 02:40:49 GMT

I was referring to his NFL career.

OH!

RE: quinn gray

Utopia — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 00:03:24 GMT

I can see the headline now..........

Quinn Gray Rejoins Jags, Garrard Subsequently Placed on IR For Knifewound to Back.:w00t:

RE: quinn gray

BJORN TOURAQUE — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 23:01:00 GMT

[quote][b]MalabarJag (7/1/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]CatAttack78 (7/1/2008)[/b][hr]Quinn Gray is a professional football player. The loss of his father is no excuse for his attempts to undermine Garrard.[/quote]

So now he attempted to undermine Garrard? Where are all of these "facts" coming from? It couldn't have been all that significant since it sure didn't hurt Garrard's (or the team's) performance last season. Will he be accused of attempted murder next?

[/quote]

He done murdered somebody. I seens it with my own eye I tells you.

RE: quinn gray

shag52 — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 22:17:11 GMT

[quote][b]The Mad Dog (7/1/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]BritJag (7/1/2008)[/b][hr]Every player should have aspirations to move upwards in their career as should every person!

While I understand the angst at him for being vociferous in attaining this feat, let's not sound as if its a crime of nature for an individual to aim at ascension...even if his abilities may not warrant this.

I like Gray's ability and do not fault him for feeling he could grow more considering his performances in KC and in the 4 games in 08. Probably bloated expectations for himself but he was a good Jag that helped our team last year in the midst of losing his father and mentor.

The cancer concept is oftentimes overblown. Its about money and that's what he wanted. If the Jags come knocking, he'll tuck his tail between his legs and come right back and we all know he doesn't have the clout or pedigree as a likely 3rd string QB to disrupt this team's chemistry, especially considering that he saw the team grow to this present state.[/quote]

Nice post Britjag.

And I'll bet that most people were unaware that Gray lost his father last year. I'd think that that may have had an effect on some of his behavior issues last year. It's possible anyway.

Losing a parent is one of the toughest things to go through.(especially at a relatively young age) I know from experience.[/quote]

And I'll bet your are wrong... anyone that's a Jaguar fan knows that Grey lost his Father...

RE: quinn gray

MalabarJag — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:54:57 GMT

[quote][b]CatAttack78 (7/1/2008)[/b][hr]Quinn Gray is a professional football player. The loss of his father is no excuse for his attempts to undermine Garrard.[/quote]

RE: quinn gray

CatAttack78 — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:09:13 GMT

Quinn Gray is a professional football player. The loss of his father is no excuse for his attempts to undermine Garrard.

RE: quinn gray

The Mad Dog — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 16:49:44 GMT

[quote][b]No Escape Claws (7/1/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]The Mad Dog (7/1/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]BritJag (7/1/2008)[/b][hr]Every player should have aspirations to move upwards in their career as should every person!

The cancer concept is oftentimes overblown. Its about money and that's what he wanted. If the Jags come knocking, he'll tuck his tail between his legs and come right back and we all know he doesn't have the clout or pedigree as a likely 3rd string QB to disrupt this team's chemistry, especially considering that he saw the team grow to this present state.[/quote]

Nice post Britjag.

And I'll bet that most people were unaware that Gray lost his father last year. I'd think that that may have had an effect on some of his behavior issues last year. It's possible anyway.

Losing a parent is one of the toughest things to go through.(especially at a relatively young age) I know from experience.[/quote]

Yeah, it's the toughest thing in the world. Either eat yourself into oblivion or make Pops proud.

Brett Favre[/quote]

Not everybody can handle it as well as Brett did.

Thats pretty callous & shows lack of compassion, above.

RE: quinn gray

No Escape Claws — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 16:42:46 GMT

[quote][b]The Mad Dog (7/1/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]BritJag (7/1/2008)[/b][hr]Every player should have aspirations to move upwards in their career as should every person!

The cancer concept is oftentimes overblown. Its about money and that's what he wanted. If the Jags come knocking, he'll tuck his tail between his legs and come right back and we all know he doesn't have the clout or pedigree as a likely 3rd string QB to disrupt this team's chemistry, especially considering that he saw the team grow to this present state.[/quote]

Nice post Britjag.

And I'll bet that most people were unaware that Gray lost his father last year. I'd think that that may have had an effect on some of his behavior issues last year. It's possible anyway.

Losing a parent is one of the toughest things to go through.(especially at a relatively young age) I know from experience.[/quote]

Yeah, it's the toughest thing in the world. Either eat yourself into oblivion or make Pops proud.

Brett Favre

RE: quinn gray

The Mad Dog — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 16:20:27 GMT

[quote][b]BritJag (7/1/2008)[/b][hr]Every player should have aspirations to move upwards in their career as should every person!

RE: quinn gray

sec231beast — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 15:34:51 GMT

Because he's a turd, a jerk, and a locker room cancer who does nothing put party and drink like a fish.

Screw QG.

RE: quinn gray

x904jagx — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:51:47 GMT

One of my best friends works at Tropical Smoothie and says Quinn has been comming in quite a bit lately, and i kid you not, every time he goes in he gets a "fat buster" smoothie. the texans released this guy because he clearly has poor work ethic as far as conditioning for the offseason. at least lemon is a guy whos young, in shape and ready to learn. i'll pass on giving gray another chance.

RE: quinn gray

BritJag — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 13:12:36 GMT

Every player should have aspirations to move upwards in their career as should every person!

RE: quinn gray

Gabe — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:49:29 GMT

[quote][b]the Chiefjag (7/1/2008)[/b][hr]Quinn Gray is not a bum but he's not a gemstone either. He's a serviceable QB who has an ego larger than the State of Florida and won't be coming back to the Jags. They've made their decision on his Jaguar future and in essence he has none.

Some other team may sign him hoping to work him into a role on their team. You can bet it won't be here.

Regards............the Chiefjag[/quote]

I agree...if his ego was too large to accept the fact that he wasn't going to be a starting QB here, then it's definitely wayyyyyy too large to show any kind of humility in some sort of return to the Jags. Nice knowing you Quinny

RE: quinn gray

the Chiefjag — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:19:50 GMT

Quinn Gray is not a bum but he's not a gemstone either. He's a serviceable QB who has an ego larger than the State of Florida and won't be coming back to the Jags. They've made their decision on his Jaguar future and in essence he has none.

Some other team may sign him hoping to work him into a role on their team. You can bet it won't be here.

Regards............the Chiefjag

RE: quinn gray

shag52 — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 09:29:05 GMT

Garrard wanted a chance to compete for the starting job too... he got several chances and looked good in 05 helping lead the Jags into the play-offs only to have Leftwich start the game against the Pats and lose... there was talk on the message board and in the papers about Garrard should have started the Pats play-off game...

Then comes 06 when Leftwich went down again only to have Garrard blow the Jags chances of making the play-offs with a three game suck feast... you could say four but I don't think one game was all his falut...

Then 07 rolls around and Leftwich was named the starter in Feb...

The only difference between Gray and Garrard was the fact that David kept his mouth shut and accepted his role and a back-up and worked hard ... not causing any trouble in the locker room or on the field... Gray couldn't do this and that's why his arse is out of here...

No team needs a cancer in the locker room or on the field... especially a team that's picked as a contender for the Super Bowl...

RE: quinn gray

No Escape Claws — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 09:06:27 GMT

Lemon has a years experience as a starter on a pretty piss poor team. Give him a chance. Although...didn't some company called Lemon (Lemmon) manufacture quaaludes?

The locker room cancer? I hadn't heard that about Gray. Anyone? If thats the case, leave him where he's at. Maybe he can back up Byron.

RE: quinn gray

pirkster — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 09:04:38 GMT

[quote][b]FBT (7/1/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Jags02 (7/1/2008)[/b][hr]Gray has serious potential in this league, and hopefully some team taps into it. That said, if nobody gives him an offer I'd gladly accept him back to play third string. But that's just me.[/quote]

Jonathan Quinn had serious potential as well. Not every player that has potential actually makes it in the league. [/quote]

Agree

Plus, Quinn Gray burned all his bridges on the way out of town.

He wanted a chanced to compete to start, and would accept nothing less. Now, that ship has sailed for a varitey of reasons. The Jaguars wouldn't take him back for a backup role even if he's been humbled by being released by the Texans.

RE: quinn gray

FBT — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 08:40:56 GMT

[quote][b]Jags02 (7/1/2008)[/b][hr]Gray has serious potential in this league, and hopefully some team taps into it. That said, if nobody gives him an offer I'd gladly accept him back to play third string. But that's just me.[/quote]

Jonathan Quinn had serious potential as well. Not every player that has potential actually makes it in the league.

RE: quinn gray

jagball22 — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 08:39:08 GMT

I probably wouldnt be overly interested in bringing him back unless for a small deal or a cheap 2 year deal something that would allow us to cut him if his personality ever became an issue but for the most part i'd rather go 2 qb's into the season again then if an injury occurs he'd be the first guy i'd probably want the team to sign

RE: quinn gray

MalabarJag — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 08:32:22 GMT

[quote][b]copycat781 (6/30/2008)[/b][hr] Sorry, I never understand the "Quinn Gray" love fest on this board. I never could see what others saw in him. Maybe under a different set of circumstances, but he has had two opportunities to impress and is now looking for a third.[/quote]

1. He played very well every preseason.
2. He played well in mop-up roles.
3. Until last year, I thought he outplayed Garrard when he had the chance.

Gray had a QB rating of about 80 last season when he actually had to play in real games against 1st string defenses. Not terrific, but better than several starters. That's probably partly due the "Cuozzo Syndrome" when a backup looks great for a few games before the opposition catches on. Nonetheless, Gray showed accuracy and the ability to find open receivers. He also showed some running ability.

He has been very consistent in his play. Clearly he's not even close to the same level as '07 Garrard, but I thought the '03-06 Gray was better than '03-'06 Garrard. Gray did show signs of concern in '06 when he bounced a couple of passes off of the defenders' chests in the final game.

Of course the "locker-room cancer" problem is a whole different matter. A backup QB needs to accept that he's the backup. And as Nate pointed out, he did a poor job preparing prior to the clot game.

RE: quinn gray

Jags02 — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 03:33:29 GMT

Gray has serious potential in this league, and hopefully some team taps into it. That said, if nobody gives him an offer I'd gladly accept him back to play third string. But that's just me.

RE: quinn gray

copycat — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 23:02:25 GMT

[quote][b]The Mad Dog (6/30/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]copycat781 (6/30/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Jaguarss96 (6/30/2008)[/b][hr]quinn gray knows our offence and performed at a high level during a 3 game road trip last year and went 2-1. Y not bring him back and let him and lemon battle for the number 2 spot? hes unemployed at the moment, i doubt he would decline, plus hes better than the bums we have at third string anyways.[/quote]

In a word, CHEMISTRY. To be more precise, team chemistry. It's the same reason Byron was let go, he could not accept being a back-up. Cleo has solid ability and excellent potential. He let plays get away from him when he tried to do too much. Hmm, sounds like another QB on our roster. Why not let the guy settle in before you show him the door?[/quote]

This is a solid counterpoint.

I hope you are right.

I was just one that thought Gray's potential was through the roof.[/quote]

Sorry, I never understand the "Quinn Gray" love fest on this board. I never could see what others saw in him. Maybe under a different set of circumstances, but he has had two opportunities to impress and is now looking for a third.

RE: quinn gray

nate — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 22:23:54 GMT

[quote][b]Jaguarss96 (6/30/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]FBT (6/30/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Jaguarss96 (6/30/2008)[/b][hr]quinn gray knows our offence and performed at a high level during a 3 game road trip last year and went 2-1. Y not bring him back and let him and lemon battle for the number 2 spot? hes unemployed at the moment, i doubt he would decline, plus hes better than the bums we have at third string anyways.[/quote]

Quinn Gray was a cancer in the locker room who truly believed that he was a starting caliber QB in the NFL. He put very little effort into his conditioning, and he spent the bulk of his time trying to undermine the starting QB because he wanted the job. Yes, let's bring him back.

The fact that he's still unemployed should tell you all that you need to know about the value of Quinn Gray. The team made no effort to keep him around beyond a minimum wage offer. They were ready to move on. You should too.[/quote]

if we were so worried about him being a cancer why would we bring in Jerry Porter whose been a polyp in the colon of the Raiders for years?[/quote]

No, he was only a problem for Art Shell and the O Coordinator they pulled out of the Bed and Breakfast (NOT a Holiday Inn Express).

He got one look at the playbook from the early 70's and said, "You know, coach, I'd love to see if you could trade me."

RE: quinn gray

The Mad Dog — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 22:15:51 GMT

[quote][b]copycat781 (6/30/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Jaguarss96 (6/30/2008)[/b][hr]quinn gray knows our offence and performed at a high level during a 3 game road trip last year and went 2-1. Y not bring him back and let him and lemon battle for the number 2 spot? hes unemployed at the moment, i doubt he would decline, plus hes better than the bums we have at third string anyways.[/quote]

RE: quinn gray

copycat — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 22:12:16 GMT

[quote][b]Jaguarss96 (6/30/2008)[/b][hr]quinn gray knows our offence and performed at a high level during a 3 game road trip last year and went 2-1. Y not bring him back and let him and lemon battle for the number 2 spot? hes unemployed at the moment, i doubt he would decline, plus hes better than the bums we have at third string anyways.[/quote]

RE: quinn gray

Jagwads 96 — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 22:05:45 GMT

[quote][b]FBT (6/30/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Jaguarss96 (6/30/2008)[/b][hr]quinn gray knows our offence and performed at a high level during a 3 game road trip last year and went 2-1. Y not bring him back and let him and lemon battle for the number 2 spot? hes unemployed at the moment, i doubt he would decline, plus hes better than the bums we have at third string anyways.[/quote]

if we were so worried about him being a cancer why would we bring in Jerry Porter whose been a polyp in the colon of the Raiders for years?

RE: quinn gray

nate — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 22:05:10 GMT

In the Tampa game, we ran the ball 24 times in the 1st half.

We threw it 6.

Of those 6, 1 or 2 almost got picked, and another went a whopping 3 yards in the air on a shovel type pass to Mo Drew.

There's a show of trust.

Of course being totally unprepared for the Indy game led to that.

RE: quinn gray

FBT — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 21:56:52 GMT

[quote][b]Jaguarss96 (6/30/2008)[/b][hr]forget the stats. After Garrard went down we were in survival mode. Gray stepped up and went 2-1 on the road. If we lose those games theres no telling how our season ends, and the loss in N.O. was not his fault, our defense got shredded that game. Im not saying hes an all-star, im saying i would take Gray over Lemon any day.[/quote]

The JAGUARS stepped up and went 2-1 on the road. Gray was fortunate enough to avoid screwing up and costing the team during that stretch. You're giving him far too much of the credit in the wins.

You do understand that all of the garbage talk about Lemon disappeared once the team started winding down OTAs, right? The coaching staff was speaking very highly of the progress he had made in adjusting to a brand new system for him. It's people like you that have this notion that a player should be signed and immediately have some impact on the field or he's a bust. Ever heard of patience? Try a little and let's see how he does in training camp. It's not expected that he is the next Dan Marino. All he has to do here is not screw up. The team is good enough to win regardless of who's under center as long as they're not making mistakes out there, and Lemon should be just fine in that department.

You can certainly pine away for a cancer like Gray, but the team has a financial commitment to Lemon. He's not going anywhere. So, rather than look for ways to replace a guy that hasn't been asked to do diddly squat for the team yet, maybe you could sit on your hands and wait a little while to see how he develops? I know, it's a novel approach to have a little patience.

RE: quinn gray

nate — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 21:56:02 GMT

Let's not forget the pick 6 that pretty much closed it out.

He also threw 2 other picks in that game.

And that, frankly, defines much of Quinn Gray and validates most of what many have said about him all along.

RE: quinn gray

Its Meier Time — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 21:49:36 GMT

[quote][b]The Mad Dog (6/30/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Jaguarss96 (6/30/2008)[/b][hr]forget the stats. After Garrard went down we were in survival mode. Gray stepped up and went 2-1 on the road. If we lose those games theres no telling how our season ends, and the loss in N.O. was not his fault, our defense got shredded that game. Im not saying hes an all-star, im saying i would take Gray over Lemon any day.[/quote]

Bingo.[/quote]

If the loss to N.O. was not his fault, then the Jags won the other two games in spite of Gray.

RE: quinn gray

The Mad Dog — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 21:49:13 GMT

[quote][b]Gabe (6/30/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Its Meier Time (6/30/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Jaguarss96 (6/30/2008)[/b][hr]forget the stats. After Garrard went down we were in survival mode. Gray stepped up and went 2-1 on the road. If we lose those games theres no telling how our season ends, and the loss in N.O. was not his fault, our defense got shredded that game. Im not saying hes an all-star, im saying i would take Gray over Lemon any day.[/quote]

Did Gray go 2-1? Or did the Jaguars go 2-1?

How much of it had to do with Gray?[/quote]

Are we out of ideas for Matt Jones threads? How soon is July 26th? I'd love a fat tub of a locker room cancer to be our backup QB. Wouldn't you?[/quote]

No, I would not like Leftwich to be our backup QB...

RE: quinn gray

The Mad Dog — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 21:47:44 GMT

RE: quinn gray

FBT — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 21:41:41 GMT

RE: quinn gray

Gabe — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 21:39:17 GMT

[quote][b]Its Meier Time (6/30/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Jaguarss96 (6/30/2008)[/b][hr]forget the stats. After Garrard went down we were in survival mode. Gray stepped up and went 2-1 on the road. If we lose those games theres no telling how our season ends, and the loss in N.O. was not his fault, our defense got shredded that game. Im not saying hes an all-star, im saying i would take Gray over Lemon any day.[/quote]

Did Gray go 2-1? Or did the Jaguars go 2-1?

How much of it had to do with Gray?[/quote]

Are we out of ideas for Matt Jones threads? How soon is July 26th? I'd love a fat tub of a locker room cancer to be our backup QB. Wouldn't you?

RE: quinn gray

Its Meier Time — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 21:37:40 GMT

Did Gray go 2-1? Or did the Jaguars go 2-1?

How much of it had to do with Gray?