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RE: Undrafted Free Agents

Robb — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 09:11:51 GMT

Could lose others too... they were only verbal agreements so far.

RE: Undrafted Free Agents

Robb — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:55:55 GMT

[quote][b]The Gaffer (4/29/2008)[/b][hr]I note that Rudy Burgess isn't actually listed on the roster page. All the other names listed above are.

Did that one fall through or is it an oversight on the roster page?[/quote]

They've decided they spoke too soon. We're gonna report that UDFA Burgess is actually signing with INDY, since that's what his agent says. Have him on our list of 14 too, but removing him.

RE: Undrafted Free Agents

Tigeras — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:21:06 GMT

perhaps they just forgot to add his name to the roster page. He's still listed as one of the 14 UFA's the Jags signed on the News page.

RE: Undrafted Free Agents

The Gaffer — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 07:58:16 GMT

I note that Rudy Burgess isn't actually listed on the roster page. All the other names listed above are.

Did that one fall through or is it an oversight on the roster page?

RE: Undrafted Free Agents

Stigma — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 07:48:07 GMT

[quote][b]pcjagfan1146 (4/29/2008)[/b][hr]What's with the 4 WR? I thought we were pretty set at WR. Anybody have any ideas?[/quote]

The team always brings an abundance of WRs into training camp. I would not take this as something to cast doubt on the talent of the current WR corps, rather as normal competition with the hope of finding lightning in a bottle.

RE: Undrafted Free Agents

pcjagfan1146 — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 07:31:11 GMT

What's with the 4 WR? I thought we were pretty set at WR. Anybody have any ideas?

RE: Undrafted Free Agents

Tigeras — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 21:30:01 GMT

considering this was the Jags smallest draft class ever and with a smaller draft, there's a good chance more UFA's make the team...

I believe I'm actually excited about some of the UFA's the Jags signed... not just 1 or 2 but a large amount of them. When was the last time anyone's felt excitement about players taken after the draft too? (probably not since the Jags picked up Jimmy Smith, eh? :) )

RE: Undrafted Free Agents

BigJohn98 — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 06:48:10 GMT

[quote][b]rfc17 (4/27/2008)[/b][hr]BigJohn, was this you who posted this list on nfldraftcountdown?

"Here's the Jags list of free agents:

WR Adam Bishop, DE Alex Boston, TE Chris Brown, WR Rudy Burgess, FB Anthony Catrone, WR Clyde Edwards, CB Isaiah Gardner, CB Michael Grant, WR Jeron Harvey, DT Theo Horrocks, C Drew Miller, LB Lamar Myles, QB Paul Smith, CB Brian Witherspoon"

im stoked about theor horrocks! vandy baby![/quote]

Yes.

RE: Undrafted Free Agents

rfc17 — Sun, 27 Apr 2008 22:32:42 GMT

Lamar Myles WATCH OUT FOR THIS GUY!!!!!!!!!

Strengths:
Very athletic...Good speed...Strong...Good tackler...Physical and will deliver the big hit...Excellent range and really covers a lot of ground...Has a non-stop motor..Very good instincts and awareness...More than holds his own in coverage...Productive.

Weaknesses:
Vastly undersized...Has trouble taking on and shedding blockers...Too aggressive at times...Does not play to his weight room numbers...Just a marginal pass rusher & blitzer...Limited experience..'Tweener who may have to make a position change.

Notes:
Played middle linebacker in college but he will probably project to the weakside at the next level...Also being looked at as a potential safety prospect and is open to that possibility...Was basically just a one-year starter...Has a one-rep max of 495 pounds...A surprise early entry who would've been better off going back to school for his senior year..Workout Warrior who has a shot if he lands with a team that's willing to sacrifice size for athleticism...Profiles as a backup and special teams ace.

Career Statistics
Year	GP	TKL	TFL	SACK	PBU	INT
2004	DNP	-	-	-	-	-
2005	11	23	1.5	0.0	1	0
2006	13	45	4.0	2.0	0	0
2007	12	128	8.0	2.0	0	0
Totals	36	196	13.5	4.0	1	0

RE: Undrafted Free Agents

rfc17 — Sun, 27 Apr 2008 22:31:07 GMT

brian witherspoon

Strengths:
A smooth natural athlete...Blazing fast with rare timed speed...Has an outstanding burst to break and recover when beat...Very fluid hips and flips them well....Great leaper...Terrific hands and can be a playmaker...Lots of potential as a return man.

Weaknesses:
Did not play against top competition...Isn't very strong or physical....Needs to bulk up and add weight...Sub par tackler...Struggles to get a jam at the line...Lacks top instincts and awareness..Is raw in terms of technique and will need a ton of work.

Notes:
Started out at Alabama St. in 2003 but did not play football there...Also a Division II Track All-American at Stillman and he even played some baseball for the Tigers as well....Might be more of a track guy playing football than the other way around but when you're as fast as he is it almost guarantees you a serious look from pro scouts...Probably viewed as more of a return specialist at this point...An intriguing developmental prospect who might be a perfect candidate for the practice squad.

Career Statistics
Year	GP	TKL	PBU	INT	YDS
2003	DNP	-	-	-	-
2004	9	20	9	0	0
2005	9	15	6	3	145
2006	4	7	0	3	28
2007	11	31	7	2	18
Totals	33	73	22	8	191

RE: Undrafted Free Agents

rfc17 — Sun, 27 Apr 2008 22:30:03 GMT

Michael Grant sooooie

Strengths:
Excellent timed speed...Very athletic...Smooth with fluid hips..Good hands and ball skills...Has terrific range...Physical and will support the run...A good tackler...Offers a lot of versatility...Can also contribute on special teams...Still has a ton of upside.

Weaknesses:
Is undersized and does not have the bulk you look for..Questionable instincts and awareness...Might be a bit of a 'tweener...Still somewhat raw and has never been able to master a single position...Has some durability concerns...Workout Warrior?

Notes:
Has experience at both safety and cornerback and could project to either position at the next level...Was also a track All-American in college...Tore his ACL in '06..He really helped himself with a great forty time at the Scouting Combine...Interesting prospect who had a nice senior campaign but will likely be chosen earlier than he should be based more on workouts and potential rather than on-field production.

Career Statistics
Year	GP	TKL	PBU	INT	YDS
2004	11	29	1	0	0
2005	11	22	10	3	0
2006	6	28	1	0	0
2007	12	71	19	3	15
Totals	40	150	31	6	15

RE: Undrafted Free Agents

rfc17 — Sun, 27 Apr 2008 22:28:09 GMT

Clyde Edwards

Strengths:
Good athleticism...Very quick and has a good burst..Great leaper with terrific body control and ball skills..Reliable hands..Will make the spectacular catch...Smart with good awareness...Hard worker...Can also contribute as a return man...Productive.

Weaknesses:
Did not play against top competition...Does not have either the height or bulk you look for...Timed speed is merely average..Not very strong or physical...Has trouble beating the jam....Won't break too many tackles....His upside is most likely limited.

Notes:
Grambling's career leader in touchdowns, receptions and receiving yards...Posted a 4.0 GPA numerous times in college...A four-year starter...Lack of size and speed will limit him to a backup / return specialist role but he could get a chance in camp.

Career Statistics
Year	GP	Rec	Yds	YPC	TD
2004	11	30	608	20.3	4
2005	12	54	1,015	18.8	10
2006	11	56	789	14.1	11
2007	12	57	804	14.1	12
Totals	46	197	3,216	16.3	37

RE: Undrafted Free Agents

rfc17 — Sun, 27 Apr 2008 22:23:29 GMT

BigJohn, was this you who posted this list on nfldraftcountdown?

im stoked about theor horrocks! vandy baby!

RE: Undrafted Free Agents

BigJohn98 — Sun, 27 Apr 2008 21:14:46 GMT

Former FSU defensive end Alex Boston will be joining the Jaguars per Warchant.com.

RE: Undrafted Free Agents

BigJohn98 — Sun, 27 Apr 2008 21:13:03 GMT

Are we only going after one guy? I've found nothing other than the Paul Smith signing.

RE: Undrafted Free Agents

BigJohn98 — Sun, 27 Apr 2008 19:58:16 GMT

Giants | Team may not sign many UDFAs
Sun, 27 Apr 2008 16:22:42 -0700

New York Giants general manger Jerry Reese said the team may not have to sign many undrafted free agents.

RE: Undrafted Free Agents

Jags2DaDeath — Sun, 27 Apr 2008 19:53:55 GMT

[quote][b]Alfie (4/27/2008)[/b][hr]Awesome. He was a guy I liked a lot. Good project guy.[/quote]

Me too. I think he is a better prospect than some of the QB's that got selected. I was shocked he didn't go.

RE: Undrafted Free Agents

rfc17 — Sun, 27 Apr 2008 19:53:49 GMT

Jaguars | P. Smith agrees to terms
Sun, 27 Apr 2008 16:37:24 -0700

Brad Biggs, of the Chicago Sun-Times, reports the Jacksonville Jaguars have agreed to terms with undrafted free-agent QB Paul Smith (Tulsa). Terms of the contract were not disclosed.

RE: Undrafted Free Agents

Alfie — Sun, 27 Apr 2008 19:47:35 GMT

Awesome. He was a guy I liked a lot. Good project guy.

RE: Undrafted Free Agents

The Linebacker — Sun, 27 Apr 2008 19:43:59 GMT

Height: 6-1^1/4 | Weight: 208 | 40-Time: 5.02

RE: Undrafted Free Agents

rfc17 — Sun, 27 Apr 2008 19:33:49 GMT

Paul Smith

Strengths:
Very competitive...A decent athlete...Adequate bulk...Good accuracy...Terrific touch and timing...Pretty mobile...Can throw on the run...Moves well in the pocket...Real smart...Hard worker...Team leader...Has a lot of experience...Was very productive.

Weaknesses:
Lacks the ideal height that you look for...Does not have a great arm....Has trouble throwing the deep ball...Struggles under pressure...Worked mostly out of the gun in college...Will force things at times....Stats were inflated by a wide open offense.

Notes:
Was a three-year starter...Cousin, Kirk Rogers, played in the NFL with the Kansas City Chiefs...May not have all of the physical tools you look for but is a gamer and a true football player...Could eventually develop into a decent #2 or #3 in the NFL.

Career Statistics
Year	GP	Comp	Att	Yds	Comp %	TD	INT
2003	8	21	34	297	61.3%	1	1
2004	DNP	-	-	-	-	-	-
2005	13	227	364	2,847	62.4%	20	6
2006	13	233	350	2,727	66.6%	15	9
2007	13	300	499	4,753	60.1%	42	19
Totals	47	781	1,247	10,624	62.6%	78	35

Strengths: A gritty playmaker. Understands the offense, spreads the ball around and can be effective when takes what the defense gives him. Is accurate when sets feet, puts good touch on passes and can lead receivers when throwing underneath. Gets much better zip on intermediate throws than people seem to think, especially on deep-out route. Overall arm strength is adequate-to-good. Has good mobility, throws fairly well on the run and can buy some time. Has adequate top-end speed, shows good vision and can pick up yards with feet. Confident, wants the ball late in the game and is a leader. Showed steady progress over the course of collegiate career and should only continue to get better. Has ample experience punting the ball and generally does a good job of placing the ball inside the opponent's 20-yard line given the opportunity.

Weaknesses: Isn't tall enough to scan the field from within the pocket and has some problems going through progressions. Lacks ideal bulk and will struggle to hold up physically in the NFL. Though durability isn't a concern at this point lacks ideal bulk and style of plays opens him up to taking some big hits. Tries to make too much happen, locks onto receivers at times and can throw into tight coverage. Doesn't always make sound decisions in the face of pressure and throws the ball off back foot at times. Doesn't always secure the ball when pressure closes in on him and he can put it on the ground. Is mobile as a scrambler but lacks ideal elusiveness and top-end speed, so he isn't a dangerous open field runner.

Overall: Smith played in 34 games (26 starts) over the course of the 2003, '05 and '06 seasons, completing 481 of 748 pass attempts (64.3 percent) for 5,871 yards, 37 touchdowns and 17 interceptions. He also had 223 rushing attempts for 547 yards (2.5 average) and 15 touchdowns over that span. Smith sat out the 2004 season as a redshirt. As a senior, he finished with an outrageous 60 touchdowns in 14 games, averaging 370.3 yards of total offense (second in the nation) and posting a 159.8 passer rating (fourth nationally). He completed 327 of 544 pass attempts (60.1 percent) for 5,065 yards, 47 touchdowns and 19 interceptions. He ran for 119 yards (1.1 average) and 13 TDs. Smith doesn't have prototypical size, so there is concern regarding his ability to see the entire field in the NFL and hold up physically in the NFL. However, he shares many of the same qualities that allow Drew Brees to overcome his size limitations. Smith has the smarts, accuracy and mobility to develop into an effective NFL reserve if he can cut down on his mistakes. There's something about Smith's competitiveness and love for the game that gives him a chance to defy the odds in the NFL, much like he did at Tulsa. Teams operating a West Coast offense should think long and hard about giving Smith a shot if he's still on the board in the final two rounds of the 2008 draft.

RE: Undrafted Free Agents

PAJagfan27 — Sun, 27 Apr 2008 19:31:05 GMT

Nice, I like him, I posted we should pick him up in the other thread

Undrafted Free Agents

BigJohn98 — Sun, 27 Apr 2008 19:24:34 GMT

http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/

We've got one, QB Paul Smith from Tulsa.