InstantForum.NET v4.1.4jaguars.com Message Boardhttp://mb.jaguars.com/webmaster@jaguars.comMon, 01 Dec 2008 15:38:23 GMT20http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic514952-20-1.aspx[quote][b]Big John (4/27/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]TheClotTroll (4/27/2008)[/b][hr]Marcus Howard it is!<BR><BR>DE/OLB[/quote]<BR><BR>This scares me.[/quote]</P><P>Are you joking?Mon, 28 Apr 2008 11:44:32 GMTTheClotTrollhttp://mb.jaguars.com/Topic514952-20-1.aspx[quote][b]TheClotTroll (4/27/2008)[/b][hr]Marcus Howard it is!<br><br>DE/OLB[/quote]<br><br>This scares me.Sun, 27 Apr 2008 20:08:16 GMTBig Johnhttp://mb.jaguars.com/Topic514952-20-1.aspx[quote][b]08 Fear Hussein 08 (4/27/2008)[/b][hr]Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought Starks left?..[/quote]</P><P>He certainly did, and he was always a backup here.Sun, 27 Apr 2008 18:48:24 GMTPsychop1http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic514952-20-1.aspxCorrect me if I'm wrong, but I thought Starks left?..Sun, 27 Apr 2008 18:31:29 GMT6 Joe Six-Pack 6http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic514952-20-1.aspx[quote][b]Tigeras (4/27/2008)[/b][hr]a RB, 1 TE and 2 DE... now if they had more veteran DL guys to help the rookies, that's 1 thing but losing a starting DT and 2 DE's (basically)...<BR><BR>according to the team "needs" on NFL.com, the Titans didn't address their OLine or WR yet.<BR><BR>also according to NFL.com, the Jags need OL and S...<BR>[/quote]</P><P>We didn't lose a starting DT. We only lost a starting DE.Sun, 27 Apr 2008 18:19:54 GMTPsychop1http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic514952-20-1.aspxIt's crazy, but it's smart. </P><P>Saturday is a free agent after this season. </P><P>All three will make the team as backups. Behind Gandy and Lilja at guard, there is nobody else except for Rick DeMulling. </P><P>I love it. Sun, 27 Apr 2008 18:19:00 GMTTheClotTrollhttp://mb.jaguars.com/Topic514952-20-1.aspx[quote][b]EraserGirl25 (4/27/2008)[/b][hr]I think the Colts should draft another center. <BR>C - Mike Pollack<BR>C - Steve Justice<BR>C - Jamey Richard<P>Did Jeff Saturday run over Dundy's dog or something?[/quote]<P>Oops. This post was supposed to be from me. I didn't see she was still logged in. <P>They will all compete at guard/center, but drafting 3 is crazy.Sun, 27 Apr 2008 18:14:53 GMTSu héroehttp://mb.jaguars.com/Topic514952-20-1.aspxwas that the 3rd center taken for indy? or the 2nd?Sun, 27 Apr 2008 18:09:23 GMTKrayz_Jville_Dhttp://mb.jaguars.com/Topic514952-20-1.aspxI think the Colts should draft another center. <BR>C - Mike Pollack<BR>C - Steve Justice<BR>C - Jamey Richard</P><P>Did Jeff Saturday run over Dundy's dog or something?Sun, 27 Apr 2008 18:08:59 GMTEraserGirl25http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic514952-20-1.aspxTraining camp can't come soon enough for those three...<P>Jamey Richard, Buffalo<P>Six-five, 297...wow.Sun, 27 Apr 2008 18:07:49 GMTTheClotTrollhttp://mb.jaguars.com/Topic514952-20-1.aspx[quote][b]rfc17 (4/27/2008)[/b][hr]I like the players in Indys draft. but I think theyll lose some just to the numbers game.<P>I think they got a steal in Steve Justice that late in the draft. I have no idea why he fell. they say he probably needs to play for a zone blocking team. i know he struggled with some of the one on one battles at the senior bowl practices but he was good in the game. and he was great his whole career at Wake. </P><P>But he'll have a tough time winning a job. Colts already have Saturday and drafted Pollack early. so Justice is already behind the 8 ball. and im not sure he can play guard. But I think he'll be a good player for somebody.</P><P>They picked up Tom Santi who I thought could be a solid backup TE. but again, they drafted Tamme earlier and already have Clark and Fletcher. Santi is also behind the 8 ball before he even steps on the practice field. </P><P>Wheeler is a good player and got him at a good value late in the 3rd. Marcus Howard screams indianapolis colt. got a good late round sleeper in Garcon. a track guy who was a really good football player.</P><P>I like their players.[/quote]<P>Both of the tight ends add much needed depth. The Colts just have Fletcher and Clark. They needed one more.<P>Jake Scott left. We just have Dylan Gandy and Ryan Lilja with nobody behind Jeff Saturday. They'll make it. <P>I thought Justice was our greatest value pick. <P>I've never heard of the wide receiver. Hart easily makes it. Sun, 27 Apr 2008 17:57:18 GMTTheClotTrollhttp://mb.jaguars.com/Topic514952-20-1.aspxI like the players in Indys draft. but I think theyll lose some just to the numbers game.</P><P>I think they got a steal in Steve Justice that late in the draft. I have no idea why he fell. they say he probably needs to play for a zone blocking team. i know he struggled with some of the one on one battles at the senior bowl practices but he was good in the game. and he was great his whole career at Wake. </P><P>But he'll have a tough time winning a job. Colts already have Saturday and drafted Pollack early. so Justice is already behind the 8 ball. and im not sure he can play guard. But I think he'll be a good player for somebody.</P><P>They picked up Tom Santi who I thought could be a solid backup TE. but again, they drafted Tamme earlier and already have Clark and Fletcher. Santi is also behind the 8 ball before he even steps on the practice field. </P><P>Wheeler is a good player and got him at a good value late in the 3rd. Marcus Howard screams indianapolis colt. got a good late round sleeper in Garcon. a track guy who was a really good football player.</P><P>I like their players.Sun, 27 Apr 2008 17:48:09 GMTrfc17http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic514952-20-1.aspxMike Hart to Colts, that might hurtSun, 27 Apr 2008 16:45:55 GMTprime winnerhttp://mb.jaguars.com/Topic514952-20-1.aspxand now... another C ???<br>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 16:44:34 GMTTigerashttp://mb.jaguars.com/Topic514952-20-1.aspxMarcus Howard it is!</P><P>DE/OLBSun, 27 Apr 2008 15:08:04 GMTTheClotTrollhttp://mb.jaguars.com/Topic514952-20-1.aspx[quote][b]TheClotTroll (4/27/2008)[/b][hr]I don't think running back nor defensive tackle is a need. It would be nice if we could pick up a running back (throw anybody behind our line and it would probably be a success), but not completely necessary. Our defensive tackle rotation is very good. <P>I wonder if we'll draft Marcus Howard. </P><P>We have four sixth round picks.[/quote]<P>They probably assumed they would draft somebody since they let McFarland go.Sun, 27 Apr 2008 13:48:00 GMTJags2DaDeathhttp://mb.jaguars.com/Topic514952-20-1.aspxI don't think running back nor defensive tackle is a need. It would be nice if we could pick up a running back (throw anybody behind our line and it would probably be a success), but not completely necessary. Our defensive tackle rotation is very good. </P><P>I wonder if we'll draft Marcus Howard. </P><P>We have four sixth round picks.Sun, 27 Apr 2008 13:43:25 GMTTheClotTrollhttp://mb.jaguars.com/Topic514952-20-1.aspxI was waiting to see if they (Colts) drafted what NFL.com says their biggest needs were: RB and DL<br>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 13:39:32 GMTTigerashttp://mb.jaguars.com/Topic514952-20-1.aspx[quote][b]TheClotTroll (4/27/2008)[/b][hr]Wheeler said that he was very happy to be in a blue uniform, and was very thankful. [/quote]</P><P>thats good. its always a bummer when a draft pick come out and say "this s*cks! i hate this town, i hate this team!"Sun, 27 Apr 2008 13:36:48 GMTrfc17http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic514952-20-1.aspxWheeler said that he was very happy to be in a blue uniform, and was very thankful. Sun, 27 Apr 2008 13:35:38 GMTTheClotTrollhttp://mb.jaguars.com/Topic514952-20-1.aspxColts are having another solid draft class. Sun, 27 Apr 2008 13:30:50 GMTrfc17http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic514952-20-1.aspx[quote][b]TheClotTroll (4/27/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Tigeras (4/27/2008)[/b][hr]Colts take a TE? Don't they have a few of them already on the team? <BR>[/quote]<P>Behind Dallas Clark, the only one left is Bryan Fletcher. Ben Utecht went to the Bengals. </P><P>I like the pick. [/quote]<P>It is a good pick. Should be a good fit for the Colts like most of their picks. I'd be happy so far if I was a Colts fan.Sun, 27 Apr 2008 13:29:47 GMTJags2DaDeathhttp://mb.jaguars.com/Topic514952-20-1.aspx[quote][b]Tigeras (4/27/2008)[/b][hr]Colts take a TE? Don't they have a few of them already on the team? <BR>[/quote]</P><P>Behind Dallas Clark, the only one left is Bryan Fletcher. Ben Utecht went to the Bengals. </P><P>I like the pick. Sun, 27 Apr 2008 13:27:39 GMTTheClotTrollhttp://mb.jaguars.com/Topic514952-20-1.aspxColts take a TE? Don't they have a few of them already on the team? <br>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 13:20:56 GMTTigerashttp://mb.jaguars.com/Topic514952-20-1.aspxTitans take WR Lavelle Hawkins.</P><P>anyone just hear Rich Eisen? they were talking about all the Tennessee RBs and Eisen said "well theyve also got Vince Young who is another RB..."Sun, 27 Apr 2008 13:17:57 GMTrfc17http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic514952-20-1.aspxa RB, 1 TE and 2 DE... now if they had more veteran DL guys to help the rookies, that's 1 thing but losing a starting DT and 2 DE's (basically)...<br><br>according to the team "needs" on NFL.com, the Titans didn't address their OLine or WR yet.<br><br>also according to NFL.com, the Jags need OL and S...<br>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 13:14:03 GMTTigerashttp://mb.jaguars.com/Topic514952-20-1.aspxwho the heck did Tennessee take? William Hayes? who the heck is that?</P><P>talk about a reach.Sun, 27 Apr 2008 12:44:55 GMTrfc17http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic514952-20-1.aspx[quote][b]Jags02 (4/27/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]b0ndsj0ns (4/27/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]TheSpacePope (4/26/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]rfc17 (4/26/2008)[/b][hr]surprising pick by Titans. but Im not looking forward to playing against Chris Johnson. he is super fast![/quote]<BR><BR>And goes down when a feather touches him. He'll never make it past our defensive line.. someone will get a hand on him before he even gets to the LBs.. who are really fast too.[/quote] <P>He runs with a lot more toughness than you think. I think he will be a very good player for them in the future. Definatly don't want to let him get into open space because if he's even he's leavin. He is the fastest player I have ever seen on any level of football.[/quote] <P> <P><FONT color=#119999><STRONG>I know he wasn't very highly rated, but often speed kills. In Chris Johnson the tacks have a RB who's as fast as Alvis Whitted </STRONG><STRONG>and Tavian Banks. They're not about to pound him at the line of scrimmage, but if they're backed up and Johnson gets loose, nobody's going to catch him. Reggie Nelson needs to pay extra close attention to Chris Johnson when they play. With a good angle, Nelson might have chance.</STRONG></FONT>[/quote] <P>Reggie probably will end up being matched up on him a lot during their careers. I am guessing they will spilt him out a lot and get the ball in his hands on screens and reverses. I think he is a lot like Reggie Bush, which is not a bad thing as long as the Titans know what they are getting. He is a guy that teams will have to gameplan for because of his speed, but he isn't going to be a 30 carries a game guy.Sun, 27 Apr 2008 12:42:21 GMTb0ndsj0nshttp://mb.jaguars.com/Topic514952-20-1.aspxColts grab Phillip Wheeler. I like him as a player. they havent had many picks but their draft looks good so far.Sun, 27 Apr 2008 11:37:00 GMTrfc17http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic514952-20-1.aspxI dont like Houston's draft at all. reached on Brown. I think Slaton is a reach. I dont know much about Molden but thats seems to be the only pick that wasnt a reach.Sun, 27 Apr 2008 11:34:12 GMTrfc17http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic514952-20-1.aspxTexans select Steve Slaton, RB, WVU.Sun, 27 Apr 2008 11:23:05 GMTJaGatorhttp://mb.jaguars.com/Topic514952-20-1.aspxwow and they talk about us taking too many recievers. The tacks I guess want that title for taking RBsSun, 27 Apr 2008 10:54:18 GMTOmg Its Leftwichhttp://mb.jaguars.com/Topic514952-20-1.aspx[quote][b]Alfie (4/27/2008)[/b][hr]That's 4 RB's in the first 2 rounds the last 3 years. Maybe one will pan out.<BR><BR>Lenwhale could be a good mudder if he'd stay away from the buffet line.[/quote]</P><P>Looks like another sub-10 TD year for Young again.Sun, 27 Apr 2008 09:48:17 GMTJags2DaDeathhttp://mb.jaguars.com/Topic514952-20-1.aspx[quote][b]Alfie (4/27/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]RMG417 (4/27/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Alfie (4/27/2008)[/b][hr]I thought Houston did a good job.<BR><BR>We all laughed, a lot at Tennessee's pick. Chris Johnson in Round 1? What?<BR><BR>Sure he's fast... he's also a 180lbs runningback.[/quote]<P>He's 5'11 197 lbs...[/quote]<BR><BR>Yeah, sure he is. Just like I'm 6'2" 200.[/quote]<P><FONT size=3>Well I don't know about that, but there is no question you are a </FONT><FONT size=5>MANLY MAN!</FONT>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 09:18:07 GMTStigmahttp://mb.jaguars.com/Topic514952-20-1.aspxThat's 4 RB's in the first 2 rounds the last 3 years. Maybe one will pan out.<BR><BR>Lenwhale could be a good mudder if he'd stay away from the buffet line.Sun, 27 Apr 2008 09:11:18 GMTAlfiehttp://mb.jaguars.com/Topic514952-20-1.aspx[quote][b]RMG417 (4/27/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Alfie (4/27/2008)[/b][hr]I thought Houston did a good job.<BR><BR>We all laughed, a lot at Tennessee's pick. Chris Johnson in Round 1? What?<BR><BR>Sure he's fast... he's also a 180lbs runningback.[/quote]<P>He's 5'11 197 lbs...[/quote]<P>He's actually a bit bigger than that now by some reports.Sun, 27 Apr 2008 08:44:51 GMTPsychop1http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic514952-20-1.aspx[quote][b]RMG417 (4/27/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]Alfie (4/27/2008)[/b][hr]I thought Houston did a good job.<BR><BR>We all laughed, a lot at Tennessee's pick. Chris Johnson in Round 1? What?<BR><BR>Sure he's fast... he's also a 180lbs runningback.[/quote]<P>He's 5'11 197 lbs...[/quote]<BR><BR>Yeah, sure he is. Just like I'm 6'2" 200.Sun, 27 Apr 2008 08:38:49 GMTAlfiehttp://mb.jaguars.com/Topic514952-20-1.aspxI was happy with what the Tacks did. I was shocked when I heard their pick. I was expecting "Devin Thomas" or "Limas Sweed", not Chris Johnson. If they want to take a third down only running back and a special teamer with their first pick, go right ahead. Reminds me a bit of the Ted Ginn Jr. pick from last year, just not as high.Sun, 27 Apr 2008 05:50:43 GMTJamesMichiganhttp://mb.jaguars.com/Topic514952-20-1.aspx[quote][b]b0ndsj0ns (4/27/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]TheSpacePope (4/26/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]rfc17 (4/26/2008)[/b][hr]surprising pick by Titans. but Im not looking forward to playing against Chris Johnson. he is super fast![/quote]<BR><BR>And goes down when a feather touches him. He'll never make it past our defensive line.. someone will get a hand on him before he even gets to the LBs.. who are really fast too.[/quote]<P>He runs with a lot more toughness than you think. I think he will be a very good player for them in the future. Definatly don't want to let him get into open space because if he's even he's leavin. He is the fastest player I have ever seen on any level of football.[/quote]<P> <P><FONT color=#119999><STRONG>I know he wasn't very highly rated, but often speed kills. In Chris Johnson the tacks have a RB who's as fast as Alvis Whitted </STRONG><STRONG>and Tavian Banks. They're not about to pound him at the line of scrimmage, but if they're backed up and Johnson gets loose, nobody's going to catch him. Reggie Nelson needs to pay extra close attention to Chris Johnson when they play. With a good angle, Nelson might have chance.</STRONG></FONT>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 05:08:36 GMTJags02http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic514952-20-1.aspx[quote][b]Alfie (4/27/2008)[/b][hr]I thought Houston did a good job.<BR><BR>We all laughed, a lot at Tennessee's pick. Chris Johnson in Round 1? What?<BR><BR>Sure he's fast... he's also a 180lbs runningback.[/quote]</P><P>He's 5'11 197 lbs...Sun, 27 Apr 2008 02:06:00 GMTRMG417