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Here's what our draft translated to if we'd stayed where we were

nate — Fri, 16 May 2008 14:29:23 GMT

#26

Duane Brown OT

#58

Dexter Jackson WR

#71

Tavares Gooden OLB

#89

Steve Slaton RB

#125

Arman Shields WR

#143

Orlando Scandrick CB

#158

Kellen Davis TE

Compare that to Harvey, Groves, Trae Williams, Thomas Williams, and Washington.

How can anyone say that we didn't make out 10x better making the moves we did?:D

Most Recent Addition to Jags Roster

Stigma — Fri, 16 May 2008 15:08:09 GMT

That other board announced that the Jags had signed this guy:

Name: Derrek Richards
College: Utah Number: 26
Height: 5-11 Weight: 182
Position: WR Pos2: KR
Class/Draft Year: rSr/2008
40 Time: 4.39 40 Low: 4.37 40 High: 4.52
Projected Round: Stock: High: FA-Mon/Tues Low: FA Fri
Rated number 126 out of 338 WR's / 2554 TOTAL

Combine Results		Pro Day Results
Combine Invite: Height: 5105 Weight: 182 40 Yrd Dash: 20 Yrd Dash: 10 Yrd Dash:	225 Lb. Bench Reps: Vertical Jump: Broad Jump: 20 Yrd Shuttle: 3-Cone Drill:	Dates: 03/10/08 Height: 5105 Weight: 182 40 Yrd Dash: 4.39 20 Yrd Dash: 2.55 10 Yrd Dash: 1.46	225 Lb. Bench Reps: 20 Vertical Jump: 36 Broad Jump: 10'00" 20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.09 3-Cone Drill: 6.72

Draft Scout Snapshot: DS Rating on 08/12/07: #160 WR, Projected: FA
13 GP; 13 GS; Rec: 60-717-12-6; PR 6-22-3.7-0 KR 5-129-25.8-0; Honorable mention all-Mountain West in '06. 12 GP; 6 GS; Rec: 16-239-14.9-4; KR: 7-151-21.6-0 in '05. 11 GP; 0 GS; Rush: 1-0-0-0; Rec: 2-53-26.5-0; KR: 1-40-40-0 in '04. Redshirt in '03.

2006 Season

Honorable mention all-Mountain West Conference … only Ute receiver to start all 13 games … led Utah with 60 catches for 717 yards … finished sixth in the MWC in receptions per game (4.62) and ninth in receiving yards per game (55.2) … 6 receiving touchdowns was second- best on the team … career-best 96 receiving yards against New Mexico … career- high 8 receptions against BYU went for 79 yards … 7 catches for 69 yards in Utah’s bowl win over Tulsa … also played on the return teams … returned 5 kickoffs for 129 yards (25.8 yards per return) and 6 punts for 22 yards.

2005 Season

Played in 12 games and started the last 6 ... 16 catches for 239 yards and 4 TDs ... averaged 14.9 yards per catch ...career-best 87 yards (2 TDs) against New Mexico ... career-long 52-yard catch against New Mexico ... 7 kickoff returns for 151 yards ... returned 2 kickoffs for 50 yards at Brigham Young ... returned 3 kicks in Emerald Bowl for 61 yards, including a career-long 28 yard return.

2004 Season

Saw action in 11 games ... totaled 93 all-purpose yards ... made 2 catches for 53 yards ... caught a pass for 33 yards vs. San Diego State and for 20 yards vs. North Carolina ... also returned a kick for 40 yards against Utah State ... 1 rush for no gain vs. UNC.

2003 Season

Redshirt.

High School

Scored 12 touchdowns as a senior at American Fork High (Utah) in 2002 ... set school 100-meter record (10.7 seconds) ... track team captain finished second at state championships in 100- and 200-meter dashes.

Personal

Son of Don Richards ... father graduated from Utah State ... one sister ... married (Jessica) ... economics major ... full name is Derrek Adams Richards ... born Dec. 12, 1983.

Draft Scout Player News

12/05/07 - 2007 All-Mountain West Conference Honorable Mention: Derrek Richards leads Utah in both receptions (53) and receiving yards (574). He ranks seventh in the league in receptions per game (4.42) and 10th in receiving yards per game (47.8). Richards saw a 30-game string of starts dating back to 2005 halted in the final regular season game. He entered the BYU game on the second play. Richards ranks seventh in school history in career receptions (134) and stands 12th in receiving yards (1,614). He has the best game by a Ute receiver this year. He caught eight balls for a career-high 109 yards against AFA. It was his first 100-yard game. - Utah Sports

12/05/07 - 2007 All-Mountain West Conference Second Team: PR/KR Derrek Richards leads the MWC and ranks ninth in the nation in punt return average (15.0). Richards’ 15.0 average ranks fourth in the nation among players with at least 25 punt returns. His 421 punt return yards ranks second all-time in a season by a Ute. Richards has 443 career yards in punt returns, which is ninth on Utah’s career charts. He returned a punt 75 yards for a touchdown against Utah State – the first punt return for a score by a Ute since Steve Smith did it against California on Sept. 9, 2000. Richards’ 75-yard punt return against USU is the seventh longest in school history and the longest since 1997 and his 135 yards in punt returns against Utah State is the third-best total in the NCAA this year and the third-best single-game mark in Utah history. Richards’ 104 punt return yards against Wyoming is the 15th best total in the NCAA this season and the ninth best single-game total in school history. He was named MWC Special Teams Player of the Week on Oct. 1. - Utah Sports

11/26/07 - STILL NEEDS WORK: WR Derrek Richards already was having a quiet day, with four receptions for 42 yards and one punt return for 3 yards. But he cost the Utes any hopes of a last-second comeback when he dropped a Brian Johnson pass inside the BYU 30 with less than 30 seconds left in the game.

11/24/07 - WR/PR Derrek Richards has opportunities both on offense and special teams to make big plays Nov. 24. He ranks sixth in the conference in receptions per game with 49 and is 11th nationally in punt returns with a 15.5-yard average.

10/05/07 - WR Derrek Richards is showing versatility and playmaking skills as a punt returner, going 75 yards for a TD against Utah State. If he can continue to be a dual threat for the Utes, his production may help balance the inconsistent play elsewhere.

2009 - 7 Rd Mock Draft

Stigma — Fri, 09 May 2008 15:49:48 GMT

This is a very early 2009 - 7 Rd mock draft. Assume that the Jags are coming off a Super Bowl - World Championship, where the Jags select last in each of the first 6 rounds. The Jags traded their 7th Rd pick to Tampa.

Here is the draft. Which players do you choose if they draft falls out like this mock draft.

7-Round Mock Draft

By: Chris Horwedel
5/9/08

*The order for this mock draft was determined by simulating ahead in Madden 2008 for XBox 360, so if you feel the need to complain about the placement of your team, please do so to John Madden. Also the 2009 (and all future mock drafts) should not be looked upon as a follow-up to the 2008 Mock Draft. They should all be viewed independently as we're simply trying to fill holes with players who's draft stock is around that particular level.

First Round:
1. Atlanta Falcons - *Chris Wells (RB) Ohio State
2. New York Jets - *Tim Tebow (QB) Florida
3. Detroit Lions - James Laurinaitis (ILB) Ohio State
4. Miami Dolphins - *Vontae Davis (CB) Illinois
5. Baltimore Ravens - **Michael Crabtree (WR) Texas Tech
6. St. Louis Rams - Michael Oher (OT) Ole Miss
7. Kansas City Chiefs - Rey Maualuga (ILB) USC
8. Oakland Raiders - Malcolm Jenkins (CB) Ohio State
9. Philadelphia Eagles (From Carolina) - "Duke" Robinson (OG) Oklahoma
10. San Francisco 49ers - Brian Cushing (OLB) USC
11. Chicago Bears - Fili Moala (DT) USC
12. Green Bay Packers - *Greg Middleton (DE) Indiana
13. Cincinnati Bengals - *Taylor Mays (S) USC
14. Buffalo Bills - *Percy Harvin (WR) Florida
15. Denver Broncos - *Demarcus Granger (DT) Oklahoma
16. Washington Redskins - Tyson Jackson (DE) LSU
17. Arizona Cardinals - *George Selvie (DE) South Florida
18. Tennessee Titans - *Darrius Heyward-Bey (WR) Maryland
19. Houston Texans - *Maurice Evans (DE) Penn State
20. New Orleans Saints - William Moore (S) Missouri
21. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Michael Johnson (DE) Georgia Tech
22. Cleveland Browns - Phil Loadholt (OT) Oklahoma
23. Minnesota Vikings - *Nate Davis (QB) Ball State
24. Philadelphia Eagles - *Kam Chancellor (S) Virginia Tech
25. Jacksonville Jaguars - Victor " Macho" Harris (CB) Virginia Tech
26. Seattle Seahawks - *Keiland Williams (RB) LSU
27. San Diego Chargers - Alex Boone (OT) Ohio State
28. New York Giants - *Trevard Lindley (CB) Kentucky
29. Pittsburgh Steelers - Jeremy Perry (OG) Oregon State
30. Indianapolis Colts - *Brandon Spikes (ILB) Florida
31. Dallas Cowboys - *Ciron Black (OT) LSU
32. New England Patriots - Max Unger (OT) Oregon
Second Round:
33. Atlanta Falcons - Brandon Pettigrew (TE) Oklahoma State
34. New York Jets - *C.J. Spiller (RB) Clemson
35. Detroit Lions - James Davis (RB) Clemson
36. Miami Dolphins - Herman Johnson (OG) LSU
37. Baltimore Ravens - *Sergio Kindle (OLB) Texas
38. St. Louis Rams - *Greg Hardy (DE) Mississippi
39. Kansas City Chiefs - Nic Harris (S) Oklahoma
40. Oakland Raiders - Darry Beckwith (OLB) LSU
41. Carolina Panthers - Mike Mickens (CB) Cincinnati
42. San Francisco 49ers - *Javarris James (RB) Miami Fl.
43. Chicago Bears - *Oderick Turner (WR) Pittsburgh
44. Green Bay Packers - *Rico McCoy (OLB) Tennessee
45. Cincinnati Bengals - *Jermaine Gresham (TE) Oklahoma
46. Buffalo Bills - Terrence Taylor (DT) Michigan
47. Denver Broncos - Demetrius Byrd (WR) LSU
48. Washington Redskins - Steve Rehring (OG) Ohio State
49. Arizona Cardinals - Travis Beckum (TE) Wisconsin
50. Tennessee Titans - Joe Burnett (CB) Central Florida
51. Houston Texans - Chase Coffman (TE) Missouri
52. New Orleans Saints - Brian Robiskie (WR) Ohio State
53. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Eugene Monroe (OT) Virginia
54. Cleveland Browns - Marcus Freeman (OLB) Ohio State
55. Minnesota Vikings - Alex Mack (OC) California
56. Philadelphia Eagles - Kyle Moore (DE) USC
57. Jacksonville Jaguars - *Quinton Andrews (S) West Virginia
58. Seattle Seahawks - Chase Daniel (QB) Missouri
59. New England Patriots (From San Diego) - *Sean Smith (CB) Utah
60. New York Giants - Kraig Urbik (OG) Wisconsin
61. Pittsburgh Steelers - Patrick Chung (S) Oregon
62. Indianapolis Colts - Wopamo Osaisai (CB) Stanford
63. Dallas Cowboys - Derrick Williams (WR) Penn State
64. New England Patriots - Brian Orakpo (DE) Texas
Third Round:
65. Atlanta Falcons - Andrew Gardner (OT) Georgia Tech
66. New York Jets - Anthony Heygood (OLB) Purdue
67. Detroit Lions - Hunter Cantwell (QB) Louisville
68. Miami Dolphins - Jasper Brinkley (ILB) South Carolina
69. Baltimore Ravens - *Eben Britton (OT) Arizona
70. St. Louis Rams - Chris Clemons (S) Clemson
71. Kansas City Chiefs - Curtis Painter (QB) Purdue
72. Oakland Raiders - *Andrew Quarless (TE) Penn State
73. Carolina Panthers - Cedric Dockery (OG) Texas
74. San Francisco 49ers - Christopher Owens (CB) San Jose State
75. Chicago Bears - Marlon Lucky (RB) Nebraska
76. Green Bay Packers - Ryan Purvis (TE) Boston College
77. Cincinnati Bengals - Javon Ringer (RB) Michigan State
78. Buffalo Bills - Ian Campbell (DE) Kansas State
79. Denver Broncos - Ladarius Webb (CB) Nicholls State
80. Washington Redskins - Jeff Owens (DT) Georgia
81. Arizona Cardinals - Patrick Turner (WR) USC
82. Tennessee Titans - Courtney Greene (S) Rutgers
83. Houston Texans - Jaison Williams (WR) Oregon
84. New Orleans Saints - Arian Foster (RB) Tennessee
85. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Antone Smith (RB) Florida State
86. Dallas Cowboys (From Cleveland) - Pat White (ATH) West Virginia
87. Minnesota Vikings - Aaron Kelly (WR) Clemson
88. Philadelphia Eagles - *Jamie Robinson (CB) Florida State
89. Jacksonville Jaguars - Jonathan Luigs (OC) Arkansas
90. Seattle Seahawks - Sean Sester (OT) Purdue
91. San Diego Chargers - Jarrett Dillard (WR) Rice
92. New York Giants - Kevin Ellison (S) USC
93. Pittsburgh Steelers - Ramses Barden (WR) Cal Poly
94. Indianapolis Colts - Lawrence Wilson (DE) Ohio State
95. Dallas Cowboys - Solomon Elimimian (OLB) Hawaii
96. New England Patriots - Brian Toal (LB) Boston College
Fourth Round:
97. Atlanta Falcons - Derek Pegues (CB) Mississippi State
98. New York Jets - Reshard Langford (S) Vanderbilt
99. Dallas Cowboys (From Detroit) - Roger Allen (OG) Missouri Western
100. Miami Dolphins - Mike Thomas (WR) Arizona
101. Baltimore Ravens - Antoine Caldwell (OC) Alabama
102. St. Louis Rams - Cullen Harper (QB) Clemson
103. Kansas City Chiefs - Cary Harris (CB) USC
104. Oakland Raiders - Greg Carr (WR) Florida State
105. Carolina Panthers - Cornelius Ingram (TE) Florida
106. San Francisco 49ers - Todd Boeckman (QB) Ohio State
107. Chicago Bears - Mike Hamlin (S) Clemson
108. Green Bay Packers - Ian Johnson (RB) Boise State
109. Cincinnati Bengals - Demonte' Bolden (DT) Tennessee
110. Buffalo Bills - Joe Mortensen (ILB) Kansas State
111. Denver Broncos - Rodney Ferguson (RB) New Mexico
112. Washington Redskins - Nick Reed (DE) Oregon
113. Arizona Cardinals - Lydon Murtha (OT) Nebraska
114. Tennessee Titans - Roy Miller (DT) Texas
115. Houston Texans - Jackie Bates (CB) Hampton
116. New Orleans Saints - Derek Walker (DE) Illinois
117. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Juaquin Iglesias (WR) Oklahom
118. Cleveland Browns - BJ Raji (DT) Boston College
119. Minnesota Vikings - Marlon Favorite (DT) LSU
120. Philadelphia Eagles - Mark Parson (CB) Ohio
121. Jacksonville Jaguars - Chris Williams (WR) New Mexico State
122. Seattle Seahawks - Albert McClellan (DE) Marshall
123. San Diego Chargers - Cedric Peerman (RB) Virginia
124. New York Giants - Andre Brown (RB) NC State
125. Pittsburgh Steelers - Daniel Holtzclaw (ILB) Eastern Michigan
126. Indianapolis Colts - Chase Holbrook (QB) New Mexico State
127. Dallas Cowboys - Eric Wood (OC) Louisville
128. New England Patriots - Deon Butler (WR) Penn State
Fifth Round:
129. Atlanta Falcons - Jonathan Casillas (OLB) Wisconsin
130. New York Jets - Londen Fryar (CB) Western Michigan
131. Detroit Lions - Anthony Parker (OG) Tennessee
132. Miami Dolphins - Darius Hill (TE) Ball State
133. Baltimore Ravens - Vonnie Holmes (CB) San Diego State
134. St. Louis Rams - Brad Lester (RB) Auburn
135. Kansas City Chiefs - Brandon Gibson (WR) Washington State
136. Atlanta Falcons (From Oakland) - William VanDeSteeg (DE) Minnesota
137. Carolina Panthers - Sammie Stroughter (WR) Oregon State
138. San Francisco 49ers - Andrew Hartline (OT) Central Michigan
139. Chicago Bears - Graham Harrell (QB) Texas Tech
140. Green Bay Packers - Worrell Williams (ILB) California
141. Cincinnati Bengals - Antwain Robinson (DE) Arkansas
142. Buffalo Bills - Shawn Nelson (TE) Southern Mississippi
143. Denver Broncos - Ronnie Palmer (ILB) Arizona
144. Washington Redskins - *Preston Parker (WR) Florida State
145. Arizona Cardinals - Kahlil Bell (RB) UCLA
146. Tennessee Titans - Dallas Reynolds (OT) BYU
147. Houston Texans - George Hypolite (DT) Colorado
148. New Orleans Saints - Myron Pryor (DT) Kentucky
149. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Darren Banks (CB) West Liberty State
150. Philadelphia Eagles (From Cleveland) - Eric VandenHeuvel (OT) Wisconsin
151. Minnesota Vikings - Chris DeGeare (OG) Wake Forest
152. Philadelphia Eagles - Tony Carter (CB) Florida State
153. Jacksonville Jaguars - Matt Slauson (OG) Nebraska
154. Seattle Seahawks - Jordan Norwood (WR) Penn State
155. San Diego Chargers - Troy Nolan (S) Arizona State
156. New York Giants - Mike Reed (ILB) Oklahoma
157. Pittsburgh Steelers - Rhett Bomar (QB) Sam Houston State
158. Indianapolis Colts - Kenny McKinley (WR) South Carolina
159. Dallas Cowboys - Tim Jamison (DE) Michigan
160. New England Patriots - *Jerrell Powe (DT) Mississippi
Sixth Round:
161. Atlanta Falcons - Herb Donaldson (RB) Western Illinois
162. New York Jets - Clint Sintim (OLB) Virginia
163. Detroit Lions - Jason Chapman (DT) Wisconsin
164. Dallas Cowboys (From Miami) - Mitch King (DE) Iowa
165. Baltimore Ravens - Allen Langford (CB) Wisconsin
166. St. Louis Rams - Anthony Felder (OLB) California
167. Kansas City Chiefs - Tiquan Underwood (WR) Rutgers
168. Oakland Raiders - Kory Sperry (TE) Colorado State
169. Carolina Panthers - Ryan McDonald (OC) Illinois
170. San Francisco 49ers - Lucas Taylor (WR) Tennessee
171. Chicago Bears - Derek Nicholson (ILB) Florida State
172. Green Bay Packers - Tyrell Sutton (RB) Northwestern
173. Cincinnati Bengals - Branden Ore (RB) Liberty
175. Buffalo Bills - Curtis Brinkley (RB) Syracuse
175. Denver Broncos - Matthew Shaughnessy (DE) Wisconsin
176. Washington Redskins - Maurice Wells (RB) Ohio State
177. Arizona Cardinals - Alphonso Smith (CB) Wake Forest
178. Tennessee Titans - Jon Brost (OT) Northern Illinois
179. Houston Texans - Kenny O'Neal (WR) Tennessee
180. Green Bay Packers (From New Orleans) - Lovon Ponder (S) Miami (Fl)
181. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Ryan Stanchek (OT) West Virginia
182. Cleveland Browns - Darius Butler (CB) Connecticut
183. Philadelphia Eagles (From Minnesota) - Maurice Crum Jr. (ILB) Notre Dame
184. Philadelphia Eagles - Rudy Carpenter (QB) Arizona State
185. Jacksonville Jaguars - Jordan Shipley (WR) Texas
186. Seattle Seahawks - Jared Brock (OLB) West Texas A&M
187. San Diego Chargers - Nader Abdullah (DT) Ohio State
188. New York Giants - Asaph Schwapp (FB) Notre Dame
189. Pittsburgh Steelers - Ontario Sneed (RB) Central Michigan
190. Indianapolis Colts - Darryl Richard (DT) Georgia Tech
191. Dallas Cowboys - Stephen McGee (QB) Texas A&M
192. New England Patriots - Pannel Egboh (DE) Stanford
Seventh Round:
193. Atlanta Falcons - gf
194. New York Jets - Peria Jerry (DT) Mississippi
195. Detroit Lions - Jamaal Westerman (DE) Rutgers
196. Miami Dolphins - Dannell Ellerbe (OLB) Georgia
197. Baltimore Ravens - Kyle Bell (RB) Colorado State
198. St. Louis Rams - Rendrick Taylor (WR) Clemson
199. Kansas City Chiefs - Chris Pressley (FB) Wisconsin
200. Oakland Raiders - Dwain Crawford (S) Baylor
201. Carolina Panthers - Allen Smith (OT) Stanford
202. San Francisco 49ers - Jim Tartt (OG) Florida
203. Chicago Bears - Paul Fanaika (OG) Arizona State
204. Green Bay Packers - Woodny Turenne (CB) Louisville
205. Cincinnati Bengals - Tarrion Adams (RB) Tulsa
206. Buffalo Bills - Bear Pascoe (TE) Fresno State
207. Denver Broncos - Rodgeriqus Smith (WR) Auburn
208. Washington Redskins - Antonio Dixon (DT) Miami (Fl)
209. Arizona Cardinals - Eric Moncur (DE) Miami (Fl)
210. Tennessee Titans - John Parker Wilson (QB) Alabama
211. Houston Texans - Neefy Moffett (DE) Florida State
212. New Orleans Saints - DeAndre Wright (CB) New Mexico
213. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - DeAngelo Smith (CB) Cincinnati
214. Cleveland Browns - Evander "Ziggy" Hood (DT) Missouri
215. Minnesota Vikings - Shannon Woods (RB) Texas Tech
216. Philadelphia Eagles - Trevor Canfield (OG) Cincinnati
217. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (From Jacksonville) - Derek Kinder (WR) Pittsburgh
218. Seattle Seahawks - Ramon Foster (OG) Tennessee
219. San Diego Chargers - Ryan Miller (OC) LSU
220. New York Giants - Randy Phillips (CB) Miami (Fl)
221. Pittsburgh Steelers - Johnny Knox (WR) Abilene Christian
222. Indianapolis Colts - Toney Baker (RB) NC State
223. Dallas Cowboys - Dace Richardson (OT) Iowa
224. New England Patriots - Branndon Braxton (OT) Oklahoma

Scott Wright's Draft Countdown rankings...

The Mad Dog — Sat, 03 May 2008 16:10:19 GMT

I was just on Scott Wright's draft countdown site to look for information regarding some of the jags UDFA's....like Tony Horrocks (who incidently was not ranked on his DT's)....

& ....Maybe i'm wrong....but it seems to me that Wright's rankings seem to have changed for certain players pre & post draft.

...almost like he is afraid to leave his original rankings up there, as he doesn't want to seem like he was off base.

I could have sworn both Okam & Red Bryant were ranked higher than Fleullen (sp) before the draft, but since Detroit drafted Fleullen higher than those 2, it's like Wright did a quick switcheroo.

I thought I noticed this with other players on his rankings too.

Now, Wright has a fine site, that I think is very informative & all....but if that is true that he's making those changes post draft...well thats kinda lame.

One Persons Opinion on the Jags Draft

JaxonJag24 — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 07:19:09 GMT

The Jaguars filled a need in the 1st round in a big way. Derrick Harvey is one of the best RDE in this draft and why the Jags vaulted 18 spots to get him. The other potential choice, Phillip Merling, who was still available at the 26th spot where the Jags moved up from, is too similar, however, to what the Jags already have in Paul Spicer and Reggie Hayward and why they felt the move was worth it. The Jaguars needed someone who could be a force coming around Peyton Manning's blind side. But, they gave up an awful lot to get him (picks #26, 71, 89, 125, 158) when they could have had their choice of two proven Pro Bowl players in either Jared Allen (picks #26, 143, 159) or Jason Taylor (picks #26 or 58) for less! However, youth was served here which was very important. The pressure is now on Harvey to take this team to the Division title, the Conference Championship game and become a future Pro Bowler. If he doesn't, considering what they gave up or could have had, this pick could be considered a bust. If he does, well, you know what that means.

What improved this draft class significantly was jumping up and getting Quentin Groves in the 2nd. This was a guy the Jags could have targeted in the 1st. Groves is a vicious tackler and has amazing quickness for someone 6'3" 260 pounds. Most importantly, he hates QBs. He will have ample opportunity to show off his distaste in new Defensive Coordinator Gregg Williams' blitz packages.

The good thing is, neither Groves or Harvey will be required to be everydown linemen early on. They will be able to learn the system and develop. But, when its a definite passing situation, having these two on the field at the sime time attacking from the rightside will wreak havoc and create all sorts of opportunities for the defense.

The two 5th round picks were for depth only. After giving away most of their draft picks, that was about all they could do. The curious thing is: Does drafting a CB, when they needed depth at Safety, signal the move of Brian Williams to SS?

Perhaps, the best value was in the 7th round. After losing LaBrandon Toefield to FA, we needed a back-up RB behind Fred Taylor and Maurice Drew. Chauncey Washington more than fits that role and was a steal. At 212 pounds and 4.4 speed, he hits the hole with authority and will be a needed work horse in the 4th Quarter when the Jags have a comfortable lead and are looking to run out the clock. Washington doesn't have a lot of wear and tear on his body either after sitting out for two years in USC head coach Pete Carroll's doghouse. If he proves he can hang onto the football, he has a shot at producing more than a back-up role in the future.

Overall, the Jags significantly addressed their need in a big way. The question will be, whether they were right. As Jaguars fans are all to well aware, drafting in the 1st round is not a guarantee. We'll find out soon enough as Training Camp is only two months away.

Valdosta St sleeper for next year

rfc17 — Tue, 13 May 2008 10:05:08 GMT

Sherard Reynolds - DB.

In 05 as a freshman, he led the team in TD receptions with 7. In 06 he was moved to the secondary and picked off 3 passes. he also was given the punt return duties, averaged nearly 17 yards a return, and had a TD. In 07, he returned another punt for a TD and as a DB, he led the team in INTs with 7 and broke up 12 passes.

also look out for Cedric Jones - WR. 18 TD receptions over the last two years. nearly 1200 yards receiving last year.

Quentin Groves Prospect Preview

Big Cat Country — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:22:27 GMT

I've just finished another prospect preview at [url=http://www.bigcatcountry.com]Big Cat Country[/url]. This time the subject (by request) is [url=http://www.bigcatcountry.com/story/2008/4/16/173757/799]Auburn Defensive End/Outside Linebacker Quentin Groves[/url].

The interesting part is trying to figure out if he's a reach for the Jaguars at 26 because of his "better fit" in a 3-4 defense. A defensive coordinator that I work with did a little break down of how Grove might fit in the Jaguars defense.

I also did a little research on the "heart surgery" that Groves underwent. He suffered from what's called Wolff-Parkinson-White (WPW) syndrome. What that means is that the electrical system of the heart had an extra electrical pathway. The procedure is to remove a small bundle of nerves around the heart that cause it to develop a rapid or irregular heartbeat. The procedure is 95% successful and patients that have the procedure (called adiofrequency catheter ablation}, are considered cured and without side effects.

While this might cause his "stock to drop", it should have no bearing on his ability to play in the NFL.

Personally, I'm intrigued on what a player like Groves could bring to the team. He's a guided missile aimed at a quarterback every down he's on the field. The question is, can he be on the field for three or four downs? Can he stop the NFL run game?

-Chris

Which unsigned Free Agent is the best for the Jaguars?

DewtheMathis — Thu, 08 May 2008 12:25:01 GMT

What about our own guys do we resign them starting with

Gerald Sensabaugh (SS) we have a need to fill this spot! I thought he did okay but he's not worth big dollars. A few 3rd round picks average out to his level of play, well minus the experince he brings to the table.

Tony Gilbert (LB) I don't know he's good but what is it he wants to stay around for at a position were good at right now.

We lost Bobby McCray, sob, but we got 2 great DE's in the draft!

2009 1st Round mock

maize n blue — Mon, 05 May 2008 13:47:14 GMT

I know it's WAY too early, but I thought I'd give it a shot:

2009 1^st Round Mock Draft: 5/5/08

1) Kansas City Chiefs: Hunter Cantwell – QB, Louisville

2) Cincinnati Bengals: Fili Moala – DT, USC

3) Baltimore Ravens: Michael Oher – OT, Mississippi

4) San Francisco 49’ers: Matthew Stafford – QB, Georgia

5) Miami Dolphins: Rey Maualuga – LB, USC

6) Atlanta Falcons: James Laurinaitis – LB, Ohio State

7) St. Louis Rams: Malcolm Jenkins – CB, Ohio State

8) Denver Broncos: Demetrius Byrd – WR, LSU

9) Detroit Lions: Victor Harris – CB, Va Tech

10) Philadelphia Eagles (via Carolina Panthers): Duke Robinson – OG, Oklahoma

11) NY Jets: Tyson Jackson – DE, LSU

12) Oakland Raiders: Max Unger – OT, Oregon

13) Chicago Bears: Curtis Painter – QB, Purdue

14) Arizona Cardinals: Michael Johnson – DE/OLB, Ga Tech

15) Houston Texans: Arian Foster – RB, Tennessee

16) Philadelphia Eagles: Travis Beckum – TE, Wisconsin

17) Buffalo Bills: Mike Mickens – CB, Cincinnati

18) Tennessee Titans: Brian Robiskie – WR, Ohio State

19) Washington Redskins: Brian Cushing – LB, USC

20) Cleveland Browns: James Davis – RB, Clemson

21) Green Bay Packers: Terrance Taylor – DT, Michigan

22) Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Phil Loadholt – OT, Oklahoma

23) Minnesota Vikings: Alex Boone – OT, Ohio State

24) Seattle Seahawks: Jeremy Perry – OG, Oregon State

25) Pittsburgh Steelers: Demonte’ Bolden – DT/DE, Tennessee

26) New Orleans Saints: Ryan Purvis – TE, Boston College

27) San Diego Chargers: William Moore – S, Missouri

28) Indianapolis Colts: Jeff Owens – DT, Georgia

29) NY Giants: Darry Beckwith – LB, LSU

30) Jacksonville Jaguars: Nic Harris – S, Oklahoma

31) Dallas Cowboys: Brian Orakpo – DE/OLB, Texas

32) New England Patriots: Tim Jamison – DE/OLB, Michigan

NFL Draftcountdown Draft Review '08

The Linebacker — Sun, 11 May 2008 22:25:23 GMT

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/reviews/reviews/jacksonvillejaguars.html

May 7, 2008 Jacksonville Jaguars '08 Draft Review
Scott Wright President, NFL Draft Countdown

You have to give Jacksonville credit for identifying a need and doing what had to be done to address it. Granted there has been a bit of controversy surrounding their first pick and it still remains to be seen whether or not they made the right move(s) on Draft Day but you certainly can't accuse them of being passive or indecisive.

With Bobby McCray leaving as a free agent and Reggie Hayward struggling to regain his pre-injury form the Jaguars clearly had a need at defensive end. After Chris Long and Vernon Gholston went off the board early the Jags made a very bold move, trading their first rounder, two thirds and a fourth to move up 18 spots where they chose Florida's Derrick Harvey. Now some have said that Harvey was a reach at #8 overall and I happen to agree but that is based on our rankings, not those of actual NFL teams. The bottom line is that scouts and those in NFL circles were much higher on Harvey than most realized and he was going to be a Top 10 overall pick, the only question was who would take him. Had Jacksonville not taken him at #8 the Bengals might very well have grabbed him at #9 so it's not like they could have gotten him ten picks later. Make no mistake about it, Derrick Harvey was the consensus #3 defensive end on the board. Was this the right move for the Jaguars? They certainly paid a high price and they actually gave up more to acquire Harvey than the Minnesota Vikings did when they dealt for Jared Allen, who led the NFL in sacks last year, so when you look at it like that some questions will be raised. Personally, if I were Jacksonville I would have rather just traded that late first rounder to Miami for Jason Taylor and kept the two 3rd rounders and the 4th. Sure Taylor is older but the Jags are trying to make a run now and he would have given them a proven performer at the position and would have come much cheaper than Harvey. That's a moot point now though so the important thing is how Harvey will fit into the Jaguars plans in 2008 and beyond. Sure he may be a little inconsistent but Harvey is a better prospect than Jarvis Moss was a year ago and he has the talent and ability to not only be an impact pass rusher but an every-down defensive end at the next level. At the end of the day it's hard to fault Jacksonville for the move because they addressed a glaring weakness with a very good player but he is going to have to make a major and immediate contribution or they will continue to be second-guessed.

After using a Top 10 pick on Derrick Harvey it was a bit of a surprise to see them come back and select another defensive end in the second round but many had them targeting Auburn's Quentin Groves in round one so he was certainly a good value at #52 overall. On one hand you could say using their top two picks on the same position was overkill but upon closer examination it actually makes sense. While Derrick Harvey will provide an upgrade in the starting lineup Groves can take over Bobby McCray's old role, which will allow him to do what he does best and really accentuate his strengths. Most seemed to view Groves as a 3-4 outside linebacker but I felt like his best fit at the next level would be as a situational pass rusher in a 4-3 scheme and that is indeed where he will wind up. Sure the Jaguars had other needs they could've addressed but they had to make sure they upgraded that pass rush and the additions of Harvey and Groves all but ensures that mission was accomplished.

Due to the trade with Baltimore to move up for Harvey the Jags didn't select again until round five, where they had two choices. They used the first on USC linebacker Thomas Williams, who drew a lot of positive notice in personnel circles even though he didn't even start for the Trojans. It's hard to blame him though because Williams was stuck behind Keith Rivers, Rey Maualuga and Brian Cushing at Southern Cal and it is entirely possible that all three of those guys will eventually be first round picks. Williams may never be a starter in the NFL but he is very versatile and the definition of a team player, even moving to offense to play fullback at one point in 2006 when the Trojans were decimated by injuries. Look for Williams to provide depth but he does have some upside and could surprise if given the opportunity. With their next pick the Jaguars bolstered their depth at cornerback by selecting South Florida's Trae Williams. Even though he was overshadowed by Mike Jenkins in college Williams is a fine prospect and cover guy in his own right, although he doesn't have the ideal height and timed speed that you would prefer. At the moment Williams appears to be buried on the Jags depth chart but if Brian Williams were to move inside to safety he could get a chance to compete for the nickel or dime job.

With their final pick in round seven Jacksonville brought in another USC Trojan when they chose running back Chauncey Washington. A talented player whose college career was marred by academic troubles, Washington finally began to emerge as a senior and probably got himself drafted with a great workout at the Trojan's Pro Day when he ran a reported 4.3 forty at about 5-11 and 210 lbs. Fred Taylor and Maurice Jones-Drew are firmly entrenched in the top two spots on the depth chart but Washington has a good shot to win the #3 job and he could be groomed as the long-term backup once Taylor decides to hang them up. Washington was definitely a bit of a workout warrior and he doesn't play as fast as he times but in the seventh round he was a pretty good value and certainly worth taking a flyer on.

How this class is ultimately regarded will hinge on whether or not Derrick Harvey develops into an impact pass rusher. However, I think a hidden storyline is not who the Jaguars did select but rather a position they ignored: Defensive tackle. After trading away Marcus Stroud there isn't much to get excited about next to John Henderson so even though Jacksonville took drastic steps to upgrade the talent outside they are really resting a lot of their hopes on Rob Meier, a 30-year-old, 9-year veteran with just 34 career starts. Other than that I really don't have as much trouble with Jacksonville's effort as some do simply because I don't view Harvey as a major reach at #8 overall. If Jacksonville's pass rush improves they will come out smelling like roses but if Harvey struggles as a rookie people are going to wonder whether they would have been better off acquiring a guy like Jason Taylor.

GRADE: B-

2009 Potential Free Agents

jagutopia — Fri, 09 May 2008 20:35:52 GMT

Here is an article listing some of the more attractive 2009 FA's. Of course the list can change if the player is tagged or resigns with his team.

http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story;jsessionid=A58FB4B49D73206C521FDA83240826D6?id=09000d5d80835368&template=with-video&confirm=true

Jags Vs. Seahawks

jagabc6893 — Sat, 03 May 2008 20:29:59 GMT

I was bored and looking at the draft tracker. I noticed the Seahawks picks. They stood out because they drafted a few players that were mentioned often as possible picks for the Jags. I would almost rather have their draft. Almost. Check it out:

1. Lawrence Jackson, DE, USC- Big, fast, highly productive, every down DE. Had 30.5 career sacks. Could have filled pass rush need well.

2. John Carlson, TE, Notre Dame- big TE with good hands and good blocking skills. Would have been an upgrade over aging, injured Wrighster.

4. Red Bryant, DT, Texas A & M- big, run-stuffing DE who would have added nicely to the DT rotation with the Jags. He is similar in size to the departed Stroud and was mentioned often as a possible draft pick for the Jags.

5. Owen Schmitt, FB, West Virginia- 6'2", 250 with a nasty streak. Could have been a special teams demon and a more than capable replacement for Greg Jones in the event of injury. If Fred or MJD were hurt, this would allow Greg Jones to move to RB and the FB position would not miss a beat.

6. Tyler Schmitt, LS, San Diego St- yeah we don't really need a long-snapper, but they say this guy is really good at it and he could have been a more athletic, cheaper replacement for Zelenka.

7. Justin Forsett, RB, California- many people took notice of this guy during the Senior Bowl. He is undersized, but could have been a capable 3rd RB.

7. Brandon Coutu, K, Georgia- this guy is good. Maybe better than Scobee. We would not have drafted a kicker of course. This pick would have been a CB or Safety.

I guess Harvey and Groves will be better than Jackson, but who knows. Anybody else think these players would have fit in nicely for the Jags?

Mel Kiper

jj82284 — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 08:45:20 GMT

Mel has us at the bottom of the south in the draft and is ocnstantly talking about the trade for jason taylor. i figured this out last season (althouhg i should have figured it our a while ago). these guys care about nothing but their reputation. he was all on the trade's leg talking about inside information that it wil cost this and this will happen and so on and so forth. then when it falls through he looks like an who made stuff up. to protect his ego he has to try and say that his idea was the know all end all of ideas and that anyone who doesn't do what he said is stupid.

the truth is that we did get jason taylor in the second round, just a younger version in quentin groves.

the most emberassing thing was that he gave clevland a b+ because they traded all their draft picks for players. how the hell do you get a... anyway.