UPDATE ON HARVEY

Muscle1016 (8/19/2008)

Jags' latest offer to Harvey might not get deal done

Tuesday, August 19, 2008 | Print Entry

The Jaguars slightly improved their offer to unsigned first-round choice Derrick Harvey, but the adjustment may only worsen the negotiations. According to a source, the Jacksonville upped its offer on a five-year base deal from $21 million to $23 million. They added a little less than $400,000 to get the guarantee to a little less than $17.2 million. The max package is now at $33 million, $16 million less than the deal given to Sedrick Ellis, who was drafted one spot ahead of Harvey, a source said. Here's what you wonder: Why did the Jaguars trade into the No. 8 spot to get a pass rusher when they could have stayed at their spot and taken an offensive tackle? For years, teams resisted trading into the top 10 because of the high costs of signing those picks. Under the rookie system, it does seem crazy to pay $5 million a year on the base pay for an unproven rookie pass rusher, but proven pass rushers are now getting twice that amount in contract extensions. It's going to take more than $25 million over five years to get this deal done. Speaking his mind: Jaguars defensive end Paul Spicer was critical of Harvey's holdout. Spicer is one of the leaders of the team. His speaking out on the subject does show that this holdout will damage the locker room. First of all, it's bad policy for a teammate to stick his nose into the financial deals of another player. It's also interesting that it was Spicer who spoke out. He's a defensive end. Harvey's a defensive end. Aren't they competing for the same playing time?

Get rid of this scrub, he is not worth it A DISGRACE

First of all, who are you talking about? This blurb mentions two players, and neither one is a scrub, or a disgrace.

The Jaguars have adjusted their offer. If the rumors are true that the difference between the two sides is over a million dollars, they've split the difference. They're not going to go any higher than they absolutely have to, and the deal that they're offering is fair market value for his draft spot.

At some point, Harvey will sign. When that happens is irrelevant. It will happen before the season starts because he nor his agent will be prepared to miss out on an NFL pay check each week during the season. They can't afford to. The only thing worse than an agent getting a bad deal for his client is an agent sitting on his hands and letting a deal fall apart, leaving his client without a job. Kremer isn't going to let that happen because he's got future clients to bring into the fold.

The Jaguars knew precisely what it was going to cost the team to go up and get Harvey. This is not a dumb group that makes these decisions. They're simply not going to buckle and overspend on a player because some internet blurb thinks they should. They have a bottom line to deal with, and the dollars that they spend on players are real dollars, not Monopoly money.

They've dug in and made it clear that they're willing to pay market value for the position. They've established what they believe that value to be. And they're ready to sign him at any time he's willing to accept that. The fact that they bumped up their offer slightly is actually a good thing as it shows that they're willing to sweeten the pot a bit in order to get the deal done. All that does is make Harvey and Kremer look worse when they turn it down.

As far as Spicer commenting on the financial situation of another player, there's no other guy on that roster more qualified to talk about getting paid for performance.

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