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| TMD, you're certainly entitled to your opinion, but what exactly do you base your analysis on?
Had you even heard of him before the draft?
If so, had you seen him play in a game? Multiple games?
Same question regarding Tavares Gooden.
Just curious as your opinion seems to be so strong regarding him, so I assume you MUST have seen extensive tape on him and could break down exactly what your criticisms are.
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Last Login: Monday, August 11, 2008 7:21 PM
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| | Claiming that Alex Gibbs "hand-picked" Duane Brown is simply sugar coating a turd. He's barely 6'4" and has ZERO measurables that jump out at anyone. It's not as if his play speaks volumes, either. He was a ho-hum guy on a ho-hum team that will get beaten like a drum at the next level. He's got average quickness and average strength. It must be that ONE season he played at OLT that got Gibbs hot and bothered.
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Last Login: Yesterday @ 8:07 AM
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| | I think this is more like what our draft would have looked like. 26. DE Groves - Since Harris/Del Rio have arrived the Jags have selected the position/skill that the coaches identified as the greatest need. Even the year we were all saying OLB the coaching staff identified TE as the greatest need and took Lewis. 58. CB Wheatley - The Jags liked this guy. 71. DE Ellis - Another pass rusher. 89. S DeCoud 125. CB Williams 143. LB Williams 158. RB Washington 159. TE Santi So for the premier pass rusher we traded DE Ellis, S DeCoud, and TE Santi. I would make that trade. It was a good deal. Now our star of the draft just has to live up to his billing. |
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Last Login: Yesterday @ 3:15 PM
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| | Hindsight is always 20/20 and knowing how things are going to fall out is always a great help. Here are my picks in the draft, assuming the Jags did not trade up for Derrick Harvey. Rd 1(26): Phillip Merling - DE - Clemson I still think that he would have been helpful as a LDE candidate. Rd 2(52): Quentin Groves - DE - Auburn I see no reason why the Jags would not have pulled the trigger on this trade no matter what. Now the Jags have a RDE to pair with a LDE. Rd 3(71): DaJuan Morgan - S - North Carolina State Jags would have more depth at both Safety spots with this selection. Rd 3(89): Dre Moore - DT - Maryland Jags could have grabbed a DT to replace Marcus Stroud and been hailed as geniuses for the selection. Rd 4(125): Tony Hills - OT - Texas Grabbing an OLT candidate would not have been a bad thing at this spot. Rd 5(155): Roy Schuening - OG - Oregon State More depth along the Offensive line would have been nice, especially with this player who I think offers nice value here. Rd 5(158): Trae Williams - CB - South Florida I stll think that this was one of the Jags best selections in this draft class. Rd 7(213): Chauncey Washington - RB - USC I was not a fan of Washington prior to his selection, but I can see the wisdom and value of his selection at this spot. All in all, this would not have been a bad draft class. I am not sure that Merling has the same upside as Harvey. In fact I can see Harvey becoming to the Jags what Shaun Merriman has become to the Chargers. In the end, one would have to compare the selection of Merling, Morgan, Moore and Hills versus taking Harvey alone as to whether the trade down was a wise move or not. One thing is for certain, the Jags must have really liked Harvey to make such a deal. |
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Last Login: Sunday, September 14, 2008 9:09 PM
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| I don't think Merling is strong enough to play LDE and getting double, triple teamed all the time.
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Last Login: Yesterday @ 3:15 PM
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| TheSpacePope (5/17/2008)
I don't think Merling is strong enough to play LDE and getting double, triple teamed all the time.... and yet the Dolphins thought enough of him to draft him to play a 3-4 DE. I think he is exactly a LDE, much like Lawrence Jackson is a LDE. You do recognize that the Jags plan on eventually installing Derrick Harvey at the LDE spot and teaming him with Groves at the RDE spot? |
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Last Login: Sunday, September 14, 2008 9:09 PM
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| And Harvey put up 31 at the combine... and bullrushed Jake Long like he was a baby.
Harvey is stronger than Merling now and will only get stronger.. he's only been working out as a football player since his junior year of High School.
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Last Login: Yesterday @ 3:15 PM
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| TheSpacePope (5/17/2008)
And Harvey put up 31 at the combine... and bullrushed Jake Long like he was a baby.
Harvey is stronger than Merling now and will only get stronger.. he's only been working out as a football player since his junior year of High School.I am not suggesting that Phillip Merling would be a better LDE than Derrick Harvey. What I said was that Phillip Merling is a LDE and not a RDE. He is not the pass rusher that Derrick Harvey is nor most likely ever will be. Still that does not change the fact that Phillip Merling's best position in the NFL is going to be at the LDE position. |
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| maize n blue (5/17/2008)
Claiming that Alex Gibbs "hand-picked" Duane Brown is simply sugar coating a turd. He's barely 6'4" and has ZERO measurables that jump out at anyone. It's not as if his play speaks volumes, either. He was a ho-hum guy on a ho-hum team that will get beaten like a drum at the next level. He's got average quickness and average strength. It must be that ONE season he played at OLT that got Gibbs hot and bothered. LMFAO!!! hahahahahaha......again LMAO. Yep, buddy the most athletic T in the draft has "no measurables that jump out at anyone and has average quickness" Sorry buddy, but I stopped listening to MB GMs a long time ago (especially ones that don't have a glimpse of what the hell they're talking about.) Yep, your evaluation of talent holds so much more weight than a HOF line coach.....keep dreaming. This post reminds me of all the idiots on this board that bashed us over picking Mario Williams and the ones who said Tony Ugoh was going to flop last year as well. Again I hate to tell you this, but Alex Gibbs DID target Duane Brown in the draft..(they were ready to take him at 18, but gambled on getting more picks in a trade down)....he's the prototypical zone tackle (converted TE that's a supurb athlete).......do you notice how our RT is also a converted TE with athleticism (how did that work out?) Alex Gibbs takes these tackles that have the athleticism to run his system, but are conceived to be "projects" and molds them into probowl caliber players. Lastly, how the hell can a freaking Michigan fan comment on a player being "ho hum" and especially a damn team being "ho hum" (LOL Appalachian State thinks the "small blue" are all ho hummers)......Michigan fans recently don't even know what talent is and really shouldn't even talk.
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